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Hi. I am attempting to build my first pc in the upcoming month or two and i was curious about RAM. To sum it up, CAS latency vs clock frequency. Would it be better to buy 2x8gb (maybe 16gb but size isnt the main issue) with a CAS latency 14 and 3200mhz or 2x8gb with CAS latency of 16 and 4133mhz? Both are about the same price but im not sure what the advantages latency has over clock speed or vice versa. Help would be greatly appreciated.

 

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They affect bandwidth and overall latency. Bandwidth is largely based on frequency (though looser timings can also make it worse), while latency can be estimated by frequency divided by CAS latency. What CPU is this going to be paired with?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

They affect bandwidth and overall latency. Bandwidth is largely based on frequency (though looser timings can also make it worse), while latency can be estimated by frequency divided by CAS latency. What CPU is this going to be paired with?

10700k

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2 minutes ago, beastintheeast said:

10700k

What 4133 C16 kit is that?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

CL14 3200 MHz is going to be more plug-and-play than CL16 4133 MHz.

im fine with testing and all that. I had to do alot of work on my current pc to get the ram to run at 3200mhz. Not sure what the problem was, eventually it just worked instead of black screening

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2 minutes ago, beastintheeast said:

im fine with testing and all that. I had to do alot of work on my current pc to get the ram to run at 3200mhz. Not sure what the problem was, eventually it just worked instead of black screening

Did XMP/DOCP not work?

PLEASE STOP [Killing] ME I WILL GIVE Y OU ANOTHER DEAL.

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6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

What 4133 C16 kit is that?

sorry i was a bit wrong with the latency on the 4133mhz ram, most cl18 or cl19. but i found a kit with 4000mhz and cl16. all the ram ive been looking at is made by g skill.  F4-4000C16D-16GTZR  its about 30 to 40 dollars more but im fine with that. i just cant afford a 4800mhz kit. 180 is probably my limit for ram.

 

6 hours ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Did XMP/DOCP not work?

No, not at first. whenever i would enable it wouldnt post or it would run and the motherboard would cycle through post codes but the screen would stay black. I tried manually setting voltages. I saw a thread about running 1 stick at a time, so i tried that and both sticks would work, just not together. Eventually it just worked though, im a little baffled but at least its good now.

 

6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

What 4133 C16 kit is that?

do you think that 4000mhz cl16  or something like F4-3600C14D-16GTZNB would be better? 

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5 minutes ago, beastintheeast said:

do you think that 4000mhz cl16  or something like F4-3600C14D-16GTZNB would be better? 

4000C16 is a good place to start. Thing is there's only.so much bandwidth you need, but lower latency ia always better. I suggewt tuning down timings at 4000MHz.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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