Cooler upgrade

macaumetal · November 24, 2020

Hi everyone,

Would you say a 120 mmm AIO would be ok for a i9 10900 for offline gaming? Or should I get a 240mm?

I need to change the cooler but I don't want to overspend

Thanks!

Cyracus · November 24, 2020

no, a 120mm aio is good enough for the scrap bin and not much else. Most 240mm AIO's are comparable in performance to the bigger air coolers like the Noctua D15, or the Dark Rock Pro 4

E: Wait non-k.... still don't believe a 120mm is up to the task, but a decent $30-40 tower cooler should work if watercooling isn't a must

macaumetal · November 24, 2020

Hi Cyracus, so you'd go with a 240? (sorry english is not my main language)

I had a H80i on a 4790k and it never went above 54°c (129°F) but as I understand the i9 draws more power...

Thanks for the reply

WoodenMarker · November 25, 2020

A 120mm AIO would be perfectly fine. Here are some examples with a Hyper 212 BE and NH-U9S:

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pp3tt6

What case, cooler, and ram are you using?

Where are you shopping / located? Budget?

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macaumetal · November 25, 2020

14 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

A 120mm AIO would be perfectly fine. Here are some examples with a Hyper 212 BE and NH-U9S:

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pp3tt6

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/pp3tt6

What case, cooler, and ram are you using?

Where are you shopping / located? Budget?

Make sure to quote a post or tag a member when replying or else they won't get a notification that you replied to them.

Thanks for the response AND the recommendations

I have a NZXT 500i case, Asus Z490 E Gaming motherboard with 32GB of Corsair Vengeance 2666MHz, and the i9 10900 and a rtx 2060

I used to have a 4790k cooled with a ffirst version Corsair H80i, that I want to replace.

I'm in Argentina so the options are limited in terms of variety and budget.

So far I could afford:

NZXT X53 or X63

ROG Ryujin 240mm

ROG Ryuo 120mm

ROG LC 120 or 240mm

Corsair H115i

Of course the most affordables are the 120 mm and I don't plan to be an overclocker or something like that just play games, so if a 120 is enough I don't want to overspend.

Thanks for all the help

WoodenMarker · November 25, 2020

2 hours ago, macaumetal said:

I used to have a 4790k cooled with a ffirst version Corsair H80i, that I want to replace.

Why are you looking to replace the H80i? If it's still working well, it's not going to be much worse than most other 120mm AIO's.

macaumetal · November 25, 2020

3 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Why are you looking to replace the H80i? If it's still working well, it's not going to be much worse than most other 120mm AIO's.

Mainly an aesthetic thing, I've been building my system as I want now, instead of as I could in the past.

But since I'm doing this and I'm changing to a more powerful processor I don't know if I'd need more "cooling power" (meaning the 240mm) or the 120mm would be fine.

And I'll be reselling the H80 so I'll get some money back, as I did with the other components.

WoodenMarker · November 25, 2020

2 minutes ago, macaumetal said:

Mainly an aesthetic thing, I've been building my system as I want now, instead of as I could in the past.

But since I'm doing this and I'm changing to a more powerful processor I don't know if I'd need more "cooling power" (meaning the 240mm) or the 120mm would be fine.

And I'll be reselling the H80 so I'll get some money back, as I did with the other components.

When limited to the stock tdp, the 10900 is easier to cool than the 4790k. Depending on how much power draw you allow, the 10900 can easily be more difficult to cool. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-10900/19.html

If you're sticking closer to stock settings, you could get away with a cheaper cooler like a

Gammaxx 400S: https://compragamer.com/producto/cooler_cpu_deepcool_gammaxx_400s_10650?redir=1&nro_max=50

Mugen 5 Rev. B: https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-871597285-mugen-5rev-b-refrigerador-para-cpu-con-amd-am4de-apoyo-_JM#position=43&type=item&tracking_id=cf1006d0-7b1f-4bea-a1af-1209a01da2b2

Which shops are you looking at?

macaumetal · November 26, 2020

12 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

When limited to the stock tdp, the 10900 is easier to cool than the 4790k. Depending on how much power draw you allow, the 10900 can easily be more difficult to cool. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-10900/19.html

If you're sticking closer to stock settings, you could get away with a cheaper cooler like a

Gammaxx 400S: https://compragamer.com/producto/cooler_cpu_deepcool_gammaxx_400s_10650?redir=1&nro_max=50

Mugen 5 Rev. B: https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-871597285-mugen-5rev-b-refrigerador-para-cpu-con-amd-am4de-apoyo-_JM#position=43&type=item&tracking_id=cf1006d0-7b1f-4bea-a1af-1209a01da2b2

Which shops are you looking at?

WOW thanks for taking the time to even search on those sites!

Air coolers seem very bulky to me, and since I see the interior of the case all the time (which I LOVE) AIO's seem more pleaseant to me.

I'm looking mainly this site https://integradosargentinos.com/product-listing.php?criterio=tags&search=cooler becuase it has the benefit of paying in 18 installments, I'd end up paying maybe 20% more but it's easier, and with a 40% inflation rate projected for the next year, 20% more for a year and a half period it's still a "good" deal AND I'll start paying it in February. Argentine economy is kinda complicated.

Also here https://dealerpc.com.ar/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw59n8BRD2ARIsAAmgPmIcuNd_Ad2V1zyR-uRlCo3dkKZ5p90zHV5-NsQh-xFRaQ_yHjcHdhUaAmuqEALw_wcB#!/categoria/110/pagina/0/

https://www.iwrstore.com/productos/water-cooling-nzxt-kraken-z63-280mm/ and I'm waiting for confirmation of these guys if they can bring this NZXT next week from the US

But I've also checked anothe bunch of sites but some of them don't have stock or I didn't like what they had.

I'm an enthusiast but I lack the technical knowledge of some things of course, so despite I'm not an overclocker (I know this i9 is not overclockable) but i'm always trying to get the most out of my components so if I can use the Turbo Boost, which I'm going to investigate, I probably will, and I want to be prepared.

Thanks for all your help and for taking the time to explain/give me a hando on this!!

WoodenMarker · November 27, 2020

14 hours ago, macaumetal said:

Air coolers seem very bulky to me, and since I see the interior of the case all the time (which I LOVE) AIO's seem more pleaseant to me.

I'm an enthusiast but I lack the technical knowledge of some things of course, so despite I'm not an overclocker (I know this i9 is not overclockable) but i'm always trying to get the most out of my components so if I can use the Turbo Boost, which I'm going to investigate, I probably will, and I want to be prepared.

Turbo boost is enabled by default and will raise the clock speed from base when possible. Limiting factors include temperature and power limits. Shown in the TechPowerUp article, the 10900 doesn't turbo as much and is pretty easy to cool at the stock 65 tdp.

A good 120mm AIO would be adequate for raised power limits as opposed to no power limits. The H60 2018 is cheaper if you want to save some money: https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-876452867-corsair-hydro-series-h60-aio-refrigerador-de-cpu-liquido-_JM

A more powerful 280mm AIO like the Kraken Z63 may allow for slightly more performance but is probably a worse value.

macaumetal · November 27, 2020

6 hours ago, WoodenMarker said:

Turbo boost is enabled by default and will raise the clock speed from base when possible. Limiting factors include temperature and power limits. Shown in the TechPowerUp article, the 10900 doesn't turbo as much and is pretty easy to cool at the stock 65 tdp.

A good 120mm AIO would be adequate for raised power limits as opposed to no power limits. The H60 2018 is cheaper if you want to save some money: https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-876452867-corsair-hydro-series-h60-aio-refrigerador-de-cpu-liquido-_JM

A more powerful 280mm AIO like the Kraken Z63 may allow for slightly more performance but is probably a worse value.

Thank you VERY much for your help, you've been very kind and helped me make a more informed decission (and save some money I think)

All the best for you

Regards