New $3000 Build help

[Char170]

Budget (including currency): ~$3000;

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: For the most part FPS games (csgo, r6 valorant) but I also want to be able to run any single player game at high graphics with no problems. I also want to be able to stream from this PC and do video editing. I do have my current computer though that I will make into my streaming pc later down the line.

Monitors: (This isn't included in the $3000 budget but if you have suggestions, that would help) I prefer a dual monitor setup and want to be going to a 1440p 240hz monitor but with 4k and 360hz becoming more popular I want this build to be able to last into that shift.

Peripherals: None needed

Currently have: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/charmander170/saved/sR2rD3

What I am wanting: 

GPU: New generation GPU; so either 3080 or whatever AMD has to offer that beats that (put this at around $700?)

 

CPU: Waiting for Zen 3 and will buy from that (say it comes a little bit higher than last gen soooo $350-$400?)

 

Cooling: Probably just an air cooler; nothing too fancy. I know that air cooling preforms basically the same, if not better than water cooling so it comes to cost and aesthetics. Which would you suggest?

 

RAM: Probably 32 GB DDR4-3600; Maybe DDR4-4000

 

MOBO: I've been suggested the B550 Tomahawk but that was for a lower budget; M.2 support; What MOBO should I be trying to get for this coming generation of CPUs; I also want high modularity (right word?) for many fans and pretty rgb colors; This will be for a full sized case; support for wifi if possible

 

Storage: Right now I am running pretty low on solid state storage and am at about half on hard drive; I know I don't currently have a lot of storage but with moving into more video editing and with games getting bigger and bigger, I don't want to have it be an issue. I probably should upgrade to a terabyte SSD M.2 and a couple terabyte Hard drive. Just to overkill it but if you think I'd be fine with just a terabyte SSD then tell me

 

PSU: Needs to support everything and not blow up  I really dont have more specification than that since the watt use from the new AMD cpus and gpus is not set in stone yet; Probably the Corsair 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply but I may need more power; I really don't know

 

Case: I'd like to upgrade to a full tower case in order to gain the most amount of room for cooling as well as enough room for everything to fit super comfortably and look nice. I like on my current case that it has a window. Also the ability to put in more fans later if I need more air flow then that would be good to accommodate. I have been looking at the be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Orange rev.2 as a case because it seems to have quite a few unique features. It has been hard to find much variety in full tower cases, but I may just be looking in the wrong places.

 

Extras: This doesn't have to be included in the budget buuuut I do want to be putting more fans into this build (rgb colors because.... pretty) so if you have suggestions for these that would be great.

 

Aaaand I believe that's it. If I missed anything or if you have questions, I'll be on top of the comments and will get back to you quickly. Thank you for any time you spend on this. I am just still new to PC building so when I tried to start researching parts again, I got lost and so I came here for help. I want this build to be the build that I can just upgrade parts into as I can, that's why I want to go full sized with this build just to future proof myself. I will probably be buying the parts in batches as I can or when they are on sales since the end of the year is coming. I just want a really good PC that I don't have to worry about frames too much or have to worry that it is too hot or loud. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!

 

[Hairless Monkey]

You can get a lot of computer for $3000. Maybe something similar to this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$473.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard	$264.95 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$169.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Silicon Power A80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Silicon Power A80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Silicon Power A80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$700.00
Case	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case	$269.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$184.99 @ Corsair
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2841.80
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-06 16:24 EDT-0400

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	$709.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.49 @ B&H
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$134.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$199.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card	$700.00
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$97.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$154.99 @ Corsair
Case Fan	Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan	$38.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack	$120.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3027.36
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-06 17:04 EDT-0400

I used the meshify c for the case, since it has far superior airflow to any other case.  ( i did get the clear side pannel one)

 

I did do 3200mhz cl16, which is below the ryzen sweet spot (3600 cl16) for the corsair rgb, so you would only need 1 piece of software, but I can go for 3600 with different software, if you are ok with two pieces of software.

 

I put a 3950x, but get the zen 3 equivalent ( I believe it will be called the 5950x)

 

I put on the TUF 3080, since the strix one, well, isnt on pc part picker. that would put you 100$ over budget also.

 

Storage may look like a mess, but I thought you could do raid 5, where you get 3x the write, with no read gain. You can lose one drive, yet still have all of the drives work fine. This means the 4tb total is lowered to 3tb. The pcie gen 4 ssd could be used for games you play the most, with the 3tb raid 5 drives as mass storage. or you could throw in a 4tb hdd if you wanted, instead of one of the sata ssds.

 

Cosair aio, with 4 extra 120mm fans, so you have all matching fans for the case (theres 3 front, 3 top, and 1 back fan mount) 

 

The psu is the best psu (that I know of), and is a a on the teir list

 

Mobo is one of the highest quality b550, since x570 really not worth it, unless you want more than one pcie gen 4 drive.

 

 

I hope you enjoy your new build! If you have any questions, please either do @HelpfulTechWizard or quote (and snip the contents, so its not a mess) this post so I get a notification. 

[Char170]

On 10/6/2020 at 2:03 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

I used the meshify c for the case, since it has far superior airflow to any other case.  ( i did get the clear side pannel one)

• So for the case; I was thinking of going for a full tower build for this computer since it makes for a lot more future proofing and for better airflow, at least what I know about cases. Which isn't much. Is there a full tower case that you'd suggest or do you think this mid tower would be better than a full tower case?

 

On 10/6/2020 at 2:03 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

I did do 3200mhz cl16, which is below the ryzen sweet spot (3600 cl16) for the corsair rgb, so you would only need 1 piece of software, but I can go for 3600 with different software, if you are ok with two pieces of software.

• I would rather have 2 pieces of software than having hindered performance. We could take the AIO out for a comparable air cooler since I like both water coolers and air coolers and really just want to focus on best performance for this build (frames, temps, noise) rather than prioritizing some small aesthetic 

 

On 10/6/2020 at 2:03 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Storage may look like a mess, but I thought you could do raid 5, where you get 3x the write, with no read gain. You can lose one drive, yet still have all of the drives work fine. This means the 4tb total is lowered to 3tb. The pcie gen 4 ssd could be used for games you play the most, with the 3tb raid 5 drives as mass storage. or you could throw in a 4tb hdd if you wanted, instead of one of the sata ssds.

• yeah that is quite a bit of memory; Probably will cut 1 or 2 ssds for now since I wont be needing much right away

 

On 10/6/2020 at 2:03 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Cosair aio, with 4 extra 120mm fans, so you have all matching fans for the case (theres 3 front, 3 top, and 1 back fan mount) 

• Back to the RAM discussion. Do you personally prefer AIOs over air coolers? Because from what I have seen, Air coolers can tend to perform better than AIOs (temps and sound); or is that wrong? Would you change the AIO to an air cooler if there are ones that perform better? Or is it fully the aesthetic of having an AIO?

 

On 10/6/2020 at 2:03 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

The psu is the best psu (that I know of), and is a a on the teir list

• If I'm looking to make a longer lasting PC, do you think I could go with a Platinum rated PSU instead of a gold since it is around a $30 increase for better wattage use for a longer run lower cost. if I understand what the difference is correctly

 

On 10/6/2020 at 2:03 PM, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Mobo is one of the highest quality b550, since x570 really not worth it, unless you want more than one pcie gen 4 drive.

• if I want to get multiple pcie gen 4 drives, what Mobo would you suggest? Why did you suggest this Mobo in particular; What would be a better mobo for more performance?

Thanks a lot for the help! I just had a few questions and things for clarity that I wanted to see why you did certain things.

 

[Char170]

On 10/6/2020 at 1:20 PM, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

You can get a lot of computer for $3000. Maybe something similar to this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$473.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard	$264.95 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$169.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Silicon Power A80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Silicon Power A80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Silicon Power A80 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB Founders Edition Video Card	$700.00
Case	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case	$269.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$184.99 @ Corsair
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2841.80
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-06 16:24 EDT-0400

 

Thanks for the build idea! I think it all looks pretty good for what I am wanting. Right now I am a little concerned on the case I am getting. Is there another full tower case that you would suggest that would be better in temp and noise than the be quite! case? Also, are there any changes you would suggest to improve this build? From what it seems, it will do everything I want very well. Just thought I'd ask if there was anything. Oh! Other question: Why did you choose this Mobo in particular? I don't know much about Mobos so it would be good to get an idea why you chose this board over others.

[Hairless Monkey]

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

Why did you choose this Mobo in particular?

I chose it because your budget is $3000 and it is among the best B550 boards available. God tier VRM and tons of features and configuration options. Total overkill, but like I said, $3000 budget for a gaming build... Other equally overkill options are:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDyqqs/asus-rog-strix-b550-e-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-e-gaming

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jKLwrH/asrock-b550-taichi-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-taichi

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

Is there another full tower case

For mid tower cases, I'm partial to the Phanteks lineup. P400A, P500A, P600S, Evolv X.

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

Is there a full tower case that you'd suggest or do you think this mid tower would be better than a full tower case?

When filled with all (7) of it's fans. It has some is the best temps of anycase.

 

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

I would rather have 2 pieces of software than having hindered performance.

Ok, I'll replace the memory with some gskill.

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

We could take the AIO out for a comparable air cooler since I like both water coolers and air coolers and really just want to focus on best performance for this build

Whit that aio (3 120mm) there is no "comperbable air cooler". Once you get that big, there is a significant advantage. Plus, aios don't limit ram clearence with a aio, like you can have with a high end air cooler.

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

Back to the RAM discussion. Do you personally prefer AIOs over air coolers? Because from what I have seen, Air coolers can tend to perform better than AIOs (temps and sound); or is that wrong?

Air coolers and aios are usually comoerbable. But when you get into the 360 rads, the aios start to preform better.

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

If I'm looking to make a longer lasting PC, do you think I could go with a Platinum rated PSU instead of a gold since it is around a $30 increase for better wattage use for a longer run lower cost. if I understand what the difference is correctly

Platinum rating doesn't make it a better PSU. A gold rating is fine for this case.

4 hours ago, Char170 said:

yeah that is quite a bit of memory; Probably will cut 1 or 2 ssds for now since I wont be needing much right away

Ok, in that case you would have 2 choices. You could do either raid 0 or raid 1. You have double the writes, and double the reads with raid 0. You have 1tb total storage, but a drive can fail without loosing data with raid 1.

5 hours ago, Char170 said:

if I want to get multiple pcie gen 4 drives, what Mobo would you suggest? Why did you suggest this Mobo in particular; What would be a better mobo for more performance?

Its one of the highest quality b550 boards. If you wanted more gen4 drives, I would get something like the srtix x570e gaming. Better mobos have better VRMs, and better traces/oc support for things like more stable ram ocs.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	$709.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.49 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$174.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$174.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 860 QVO 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ Walmart
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$199.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 870 QVO 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$224.78 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB TUF GAMING Video Card	$699.99
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$140.93 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan	$38.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack	$109.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3033.08
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-08 08:22 EDT-0400

More ram (64gb), less storage (4tb 1tb pcie gen 4 with 3tb sata. 

[Char170]

Ok, so I took both of your lists and did some more research on what I'm looking for and I came up with this:

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/charmander170/saved/JXBW4D

 

(I dont know how to do the cool lists like you both did.... and hopefully this link works, idk)

 

 

I think there are compatibility problems with the MOBO and the case with USB ports but I'm not totally sure. What would you suggest different with this build or how to get those compatibility problems to go away? In order to get these compatibility problems to go away and have all the ports on the case work, I can go over the "$3000" budget by a little, just want everything to work that I have. (ALSO the Monitor is there in place of the GPU price) And I probably will get the 5950X more towards the end of the year

 

@HelpfulTechWizard & @HairlessMonkeyBoy

[Helpful Tech Witch]

10 hours ago, Char170 said:

Ok, so I took both of your lists and did some more research on what I'm looking for and I came up with this:

 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/charmander170/saved/JXBW4D

 

(I dont know how to do the cool lists like you both did.... and hopefully this link works, idk)

 

 

I think there are compatibility problems with the MOBO and the case with USB ports but I'm not totally sure. What would you suggest different with this build or how to get those compatibility problems to go away? In order to get these compatibility problems to go away and have all the ports on the case work, I can go over the "$3000" budget by a little, just want everything to work that I have. (ALSO the Monitor is there in place of the GPU price) And I probably will get the 5950X more towards the end of the year

 

@HelpfulTechWizard & @HairlessMonkeyBoy

I wouldn't get that case without doing custom loop watercooling. The mesh c up above doesn't have any incompatibilities, and would probably be a lot better. (And is great with all fans for airflow.

[Char170]

1 hour ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

I wouldn't get that case without doing custom loop watercooling. The mesh c up above doesn't have any incompatibilities, and would probably be a lot better. (And is great with all fans for airflow.

If I may do custom water cooling like.... next summer or just eventually, should I get this case now?

[Helpful Tech Witch]

3 hours ago, Char170 said:

If I may do custom water cooling like.... next summer or just eventually, should I get this case now?

Afe you planning to display it? Do you want a gigantic ass case?

[Herman Mcpootis]

18 hours ago, Char170 said:

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/charmander170/saved/JXBW4D

@HairlessMonkeyBoy

some changes:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($704.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Silverstone PF360-ARGB 94 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($122.54 @ Amazon) already has RGB fans.
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.49 @ B&H) no need to spend so much on a B550 master.
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($233.99 @ Newegg) saves 2 slots for later.
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon) same thing with a heatsink.
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card 
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  ($139.99 @ Adorama) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Amazon) no need for an 850w PSU.
Monitor: Asus ROG Strix XG27UQ 27.0" 3840x2160 144 Hz Monitor  ($799.99 @ B&H) 
Total: $2480.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-09 22:25 EDT-0400