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[napper_tapper]

Budget (including currency): £7,500 (max.)

Country: United Kingdom

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: nothing particularly intensive

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

Well, the new RTX 3000 series cards have got my juices going.  I was actually going to upgrade from my X470 build to X570 when the ASRock Aqua boards were launched but I couldn't get one, I didn't realise they were only 1,000 of them made worldwide!  This won't be getting built until December as most of the budget will be coming from a Christmas bonus.  Right now I am looking for discussion on the components and what could be swapped in or out due to incompatibility issues.  I wanted to get four DIMMs of RAM to work at max frequency in my X470 build but they would never be stable, I had to drop two out so I am hoping I won't need to with X570.

 

Here is what I have picked so far, please let me know your opinions:

 

CASE:  Phanteks Enthoo 719 Full Tower DRGB Case - Gunmetal Grey (£180),

MOTHERBOARD:  Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER (£400),

CHIPSET COOLING:  EKWB EK-Quantum Momentum Chipset AORUS X570 - Plexi (£40),

CPU:  AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (if 4950X is released will swap with that) (£690),

CPU COOLING:  EKWB EK-Quantum Momentum AORUS X570 Master D-RGB - Plexi (£140),

RAM:  Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB 4,000MHz DDR4 (placeholder only until someone can recommend a better kit) (£335),

RAM COOLING BLOCK:  EKWB EK-RAM Monarch X4 - Nickel (£45),

RAM COOLING PLATES:  EKWB EK-RAM Monarch Module - Black (2 x £30 = £60),

GPU 01:  Nvidia RTX 3090 (£1,400),

GPU 01 COOLING:  EKWB EK-Quantum Vector RTX 3080/3090 D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi (£160),

GPU 01 BACKPLATE:  EKWB EK-Quantum Vector RTX 3070/3080/3090 Backplate - Black (£40),

GPU 02:  Nvidia RTX 3090 (£1,400),

GPU 02 COOLING:  EKWB EK-Quantum Vector RTX 3080/3090 D-RGB - Nickel + Plexi (£160),

GPU 02 BACKPLATE:  EKWB EK-Quantum Vector RTX 3070/3080/3090 Backplate - Black (£40),

PSU:  Corsair AX1600i full modular 80+ titanium (£480),

SSD 01:  Gigabyte AORUS M.2 (2280) PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD - 1TB (£170),

SSD 02:  Gigabyte AORUS M.2 (2280) PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD - 1TB (£170),

WATER PUMP/ RESERVOIR:  EKWB EK-Quantum Kinetic TBE 300 D5 PWM D-RGB (£175),

RADIATOR 01: EKWB EK-CoolStream SE 360 (Slim Triple)  (£70),

RADIATOR 02: EKWB EK-CoolStream SE 420 (£90),

RADIATOR 01 FANS:  EK-Vardar X3M 120ER D-RGB - Black (3 x £25 = £75),

RADIATOR 02 FANS:  EK-Furious Vardar EVO 140 BB (3 x £20 = £60).

 

Those above come to £6,290 but by time I throw in fluid, hard tubes, fittings, thermal compound and fan cables it will probably come out to £6,500.  I can go more on RAM but I am unsure of the platform limitations to be honest.

 

 

 

 

[boggy77]

you can keep your current x470 board, what's limiting your ram speed is your cpu, not the board.

wait for 4000 series

ram sweetspot for 3000 series is 3600, with 4000mhz you'll have to run them at 3600.

maybe for 4000 series, the infinity fabric will be able to take 4000mhz.

 

[VeganJoy]

23 minutes ago, rmurph17 said:

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: nothing particularly intensive

bruh

 

by the time you build this, gskill may have their 2x16gb 4000c16 kits out, chances are that you can get them to 3733c14 or something ridiculous. with two sets you might be limited to 3600c14/c15 which would still be stupid fast for 64gb. given the memory performance of renoir apus, zen 3 will likely break 2000mhz fclk if not higher. maybe get the xtreme or a godlike for that sorta crazy memory stuff.

 

also, you could get two 980 pros or those sabrents that are coming out soon, 7000mbps read and 5000mbps write or something silly. or maybe two 970 pros before they stop making 2 bit mlc drives.

[napper_tapper]

On 9/28/2020 at 4:03 PM, boggy77 said:

you can keep your current x470 board, what's limiting your ram speed is your cpu, not the board.

wait for 4000 series

ram sweetspot for 3000 series is 3600, with 4000mhz you'll have to run them at 3600.

maybe for 4000 series, the infinity fabric will be able to take 4000mhz.

 

 

On 9/28/2020 at 4:30 PM, VeganJoy said:

bruh

 

by the time you build this, gskill may have their 2x16gb 4000c16 kits out, chances are that you can get them to 3733c14 or something ridiculous. with two sets you might be limited to 3600c14/c15 which would still be stupid fast for 64gb. given the memory performance of renoir apus, zen 3 will likely break 2000mhz fclk if not higher. maybe get the xtreme or a godlike for that sorta crazy memory stuff.

 

also, you could get two 980 pros or those sabrents that are coming out soon, 7000mbps read and 5000mbps write or something silly. or maybe two 970 pros before they stop making 2 bit mlc drives.

 

Well I think you are both right that I should just wait for the 4000 series processors to drop, I assume that the motherboard I picked would need to be changed up at the same time to make the best use of them?  

 

I really, really like the look of the Samsung drives, I will definitely switch those in instead.  At these speeds is there a point to putting them into RAID?

[VeganJoy]

1 hour ago, rmurph17 said:

I assume that the motherboard I picked would need to be changed up at the same time to make the best use of them?  

nah b550 and x570 will be able to fully utilize zen 3 features and will likely be the final am4 series of boards. theres a chance that we have a generation of crossover boards between ddr4 and ddr5 but we dont know yet. i personally wouldnt get a gigabyte board as the msi and asus boards are nicer but thats a you thing. 

 

1 hour ago, rmurph17 said:

I really, really like the look of the Samsung drives, I will definitely switch those in instead.  At these speeds is there a point to putting them into RAID?

if youll be doing heavy video editing and need a ridiculously fast 10-20gbps scratch disk then yes. otherwise theres no discernible difference between these utlra fast ssds and a cheap pcie 3.0 one, or even a sata one for games tbh

 

would also recommend waiting a little bit on ram as gskill is coming out with 4000c16 2x16gb ram kits in all their major lineups, you could get two sets of those and itd be kickass

[napper_tapper]

18 hours ago, VeganJoy said:

nah b550 and x570 will be able to fully utilize zen 3 features and will likely be the final am4 series of boards. theres a chance that we have a generation of crossover boards between ddr4 and ddr5 but we dont know yet. i personally wouldnt get a gigabyte board as the msi and asus boards are nicer but thats a you thing. 

 

if youll be doing heavy video editing and need a ridiculously fast 10-20gbps scratch disk then yes. otherwise theres no discernible difference between these utlra fast ssds and a cheap pcie 3.0 one, or even a sata one for games tbh

 

would also recommend waiting a little bit on ram as gskill is coming out with 4000c16 2x16gb ram kits in all their major lineups, you could get two sets of those and itd be kickass

 

In all honesty the most intensive thing I would be doing is rendering in AutoCAD or REVIT, I sometimes do some video editing but it's very seldom now that I can just pay people on Fiverr. 

[VeganJoy]

1 hour ago, rmurph17 said:

 

In all honesty the most intensive thing I would be doing is rendering in AutoCAD or REVIT, I sometimes do some video editing but it's very seldom now that I can just pay people on Fiverr. 

i mean your current system should be plenty good enough for that but if youre going all out for shits and giggles you might as well go all out

[Guest]

Buying 2 x RTX 3090's is a massive waste even for AutoCAD and REVIT.

 

According to Puget systems REVIT doesn't need anything special on the gpu front. For AutoCAD the same applies even when doing 3D models.

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-AutoCAD-134/Hardware-Recommendations

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/recommended/Recommended-Systems-for-Autodesk-Revit-171/Hardware-Recommendations