My transition to Linux.

[markkashraf]

Ok so i decided to try something new and install linux as a secondary operating system (Ubuntu to be specific), it's not quite as hard to me to use as people say. I have some familiarity with command line (like the ./ ro execute, cd to change directory etc), i managed to somehow install AMD Drivers but i get no AMD software which is weird. I also tried csgo and the experience was awful.

So, if i am to have a fresh new start with linux (keep in mind that i also game from time to time and I've never used anything other than windows), what distro should i use for gaming and is easy to use for a newbie like me? and maybe give me some pro tips.

[Deli]

AMD drivers are build in to the kernel. No need to install any extra driver. For gaming in linux, Pop OS.

 

LTT has a few good videos about gaming with linux. Check them out.

[eeeee1]

there are many flavours

i would recommend:

ubuntu

fedora

mint

manjaro

 

these 4 are really easy to use.

 

[Fatih19]

Pop! OS is the best one. What AMD drivers? It comes out of the box with Linux and no you don't have GUI software for it.

 

Did CSGO run? You need to put this om the launch option if it didn't.

-nojoy

 

[markkashraf]

3 minutes ago, Deli said:

AMD drivers are build in to the kernel. No need to install any extra driver. For gaming in linux, Pop OS.

 

LTT has a few good videos about gaming with linux. Check them out.

What's the difference between Pop OS and Ubuntu, i mean they're both linux, right?

[svmlegacy]

6 minutes ago, markkashraf said:

Ok so i decided to try something new and install linux as a secondary operating system (Ubuntu to be specific), it's not quite as hard to me to use as people say. I have some familiarity with command line (like the ./ ro execute, cd to change directory etc), i managed to somehow install AMD Drivers but i get no AMD software which is weird. I also tried csgo and the experience was awful.

So, if i am to have a fresh new start with linux (keep in mind that i also game from time to time and I've never used anything other than windows), what distro should i use for gaming and is easy to use for a newbie like me? and maybe give me some pro tips.

For gaming, stick to Ubuntu. AMD Drivers are built into kernel, and you shouldn't need to worry about it, this might be the source of problems.

[markkashraf]

4 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

there are many flavours

i would recommend:

ubuntu

fedora

mint

manjaro

 

these 4 are really easy to use.

 

I tried Ubuntu but gaming on it is a stuttery mess

[eeeee1]

Just now, markkashraf said:

What's the difference between Pop OS and Ubuntu, i mean they're both linux, right?

some use different boot loaders. also... 

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

 

every distro is different with different code

[markkashraf]

6 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

some use different boot loaders. also... 

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

 

every distro is different with different code

Wow, that's helpful, thank you so much!

[eeeee1]

Just now, markkashraf said:

Wow, that's helpful, thank you so much!

... did a common copy pasta help that much? well, take this free education for granted. i aint taking your tax money 

[Deli]

7 minutes ago, markkashraf said:

What's the difference between Pop OS and Ubuntu, i mean they're both linux, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co6FePZoNgE

 

Pop OS is actually based on Ubuntu. But has many extra installed. This makes it easier to start. You can use Ubuntu, but need more time to set it up and install extra stuffs for playing games.

[markkashraf]

Just now, eeeee1 said:

... did a common copy pasta help that much? well, take this free education for granted. i aint taking your tax money 

Hahaha, i mean i now understand the idea that linux is a part of every system so yeah it helped

[imcaspar]

23 hours ago, markkashraf said:

Ok so i decided to try something new and install linux as a secondary operating system (Ubuntu to be specific), it's not quite as hard to me to use as people say. I have some familiarity with command line (like the ./ ro execute, cd to change directory etc), i managed to somehow install AMD Drivers but i get no AMD software which is weird. I also tried csgo and the experience was awful.

So, if i am to have a fresh new start with linux (keep in mind that i also game from time to time and I've never used anything other than windows), what distro should i use for gaming and is easy to use for a newbie like me? and maybe give me some pro tips.

Do you just want an Operating System that works, or are you interested in learning a lot about GNU/Linux and using it to its fuller potential?
 

Ubuntu is great for one who really just wants an alternative to Windows and MacOSX.
If you intend to use Linux in a more advanced way, look into Fedora or Manjaro.

 

Stay aware from barebones Arch Linux and Gentoo, as they have too much of a steep learning curve if you are new to the GNU/Linux world.

[vorticalbox]

On 9/18/2020 at 2:01 AM, Deli said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co6FePZoNgE

 

Pop OS is actually based on Ubuntu. But has many extra installed. This makes it easier to start. You can use Ubuntu, but need more time to set it up and install extra stuffs for playing games.

Plus Window tiling

[Fatih19]

On 9/20/2020 at 9:14 AM, vorticalbox said:

Plus Window tiling

Windows tiling is actually pretty epic on Pop!OS. The driver from Nvidia is preinstalled if I'm not mistaken.

[Wild Penquin]

On 9/18/2020 at 3:49 AM, markkashraf said:

I tried Ubuntu but gaming on it is a stuttery mess

Well, especially with more modern AMD GPUs which use amdgpu, this should not be the case, especially with something somewhat well supported like CS:GO, which you mentioned. That has native port, so you don't even need to use proton!

 

You haven't mentioned your hardware. One thing that could explain this, is that you are using an older AMD GPU which is not supported by amdgpu. What would indeed mean quite old GPUs. Older GPUs are generally better supported in Windows OOTB, however that doesn't mean they are unsupported on Linux, either (they may require more user work).

 

Iin case you actually want help on solving these issues, you need to tell your setup, which amd gpu drivers you actually installed (as this should not be necessary, and was already mentioned many times) and, for example, tell if there are other games which you tried and did they all have a similar problem. This could be a CS:GO specific problem or a general problem on your setup.

Edited September 21, 2020 by Wild Penquin
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[Wild Penquin]

On 9/18/2020 at 3:41 AM, markkashraf said:

i managed to somehow install AMD Drivers but i get no AMD software which is weird.

This may indeed and understandably seem weird indeed for someone coming from Windows side. However, rarely there actually comes any software with GPU drivers. There are many reasons; many things the software does on Windows, is already handled by something else on GNU+Linux GUI stack - so there is not so much need for such software in the first place. Also, the underlying stack is totally different than what it is on Windows, so they would need to basically write the software from scratch. This is not a priority for GPU driver teams (the priority is to make a working driver and polish any issues in it) - so there is no software in many cases.

 

EDIT: There's also one important thing I forgot to say: The part of the Unix philosophy to "Do one thing and do it well". Many might consider the software which comes with Windows GPU drivers as unnecessary bloat. This will generally not be the case with Linux GPU drivers, and this might even be what most users would expect and choose (if they are given the choice, which they are not given in Windows). IMHO it actually makes more sense this way; it would be nice the GPU driver manufacturers would make some optional, additional tool packages, for, say overclocking or tweaking other power-user parameters, though.

 

NVidia drivers do come with a kind of GUI control panel (by default or optionally - don't remember which), but it is indeed not needed. All of the features it gives can be done without it (monitoring, tweaking settings etc.), and it is quite barebones. Or, was the last time I had an NVidia GPU (this could have changed).

Edited September 21, 2020 by Wild Penquin
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