Cod warzone Feels bottlenecked

[Rori]

Can anyone give me in-game settings and Radeon Software settings in order to maximize performance? Game feels pretty clunky with fps capped at 144fps. My Radeon software shows Warzone average of 110 fps. I have played with settings and overclock and was able to reach about 180fps average but my Radeon settings reset almost every time which makes me lose performance.Could my CPU be bottlenecking with a 3.9 GHZ OC from 3.0? Temperatures are stable at a solid 70C for both GPU and CPU.  

Ryzen 1700x OC to 3.9GHZ

RX 5700xt 

16gb RAM

[Zando_]

I'd wager the CPU is the bottleneck, Zen IPC was on par with chips 3-4 years older + they don't clock very high. A Zen 2 chip would do much better and should be a drop in upgrade with the right BIOS. 

[Bombastinator]

The way to tell is look at what percentage of performance you are getting.  If the gpu is running near 100% and the cpu isn’t even close, it’s a gpu bottleneck.  If it’s the other way it’s the other way.  If neither is running near 100% something else is going on. 
 

1700x is a workstation cpu not a gaming cpu. Lots of not terribly fast cores. 
 

If you hand tune your ram, (zen actually gets more out of fast ram than it does out of OC)  you might get the whole thing going almost as fast as a stock 2700x.  A reaaly fast ram setting (assuming you’ve got a pretty slow one right now) might be enough.   Zen 2 will still beat it though. 

Edited August 18, 2020 by Bombastinator

[Rori]

33 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

The way to tell is look at what percentage of performance you are getting.  If the gpu is running near 100% and the cpu isn’t even close, it’s a gpu bottleneck.  If it’s the other way it’s the other way.  If neither is running near 100% something else is going on. 
 

1700x is a workstation cpu not a gaming cpu. Lots of not terribly fast cores. 
 

If you hand tune your ram, (zen actually gets more out of fast ram than it does out of OC)  you might get the whole thing going almost as fast as a stock 2700x.  A reaaly fast ram setting (assuming you’ve got a pretty slow one right now) might be enough.   Zen 2 will still beat it though. 

How do you unlock fast ram setting? I have DOCP/XMP enabled @ 3000 MHZ. Is there a setting im missing?

[Mister Woof]

1 hour ago, Rori said:

Can anyone give me in-game settings and Radeon Software settings in order to maximize performance? Game feels pretty clunky with fps capped at 144fps. My Radeon software shows Warzone average of 110 fps. I have played with settings and overclock and was able to reach about 180fps average but my Radeon settings reset almost every time which makes me lose performance.Could my CPU be bottlenecking with a 3.9 GHZ OC from 3.0? Temperatures are stable at a solid 70C for both GPU and CPU.  

Ryzen 1700x OC to 3.9GHZ

RX 5700xt 

16gb RAM

If your Radeon settings (GPU) can net you 180fps but due to reset of manual tuning, you drop down to 110fps, then it's not your CPU that's the problem it's the behvaior of the GPU.

 

I'd try to reinstall/DDU your graphics drivers to get more tuning/stability out of your manual tune on Adrenaline before you move further.

[Bombastinator]

8 minutes ago, Rori said:

How do you unlock fast ram setting? I have DOCP/XMP enabled @ 3000 MHZ. Is there a setting im missing?

Not a setting.  3000mhz is already fairly fast, if it’s actually running at 3000.  Sometimes things drop back to default minimum.  Another oddity is DDR stands for “double data rate” so some stuff will sometimes  list at being half ram speed. If you’ve got 3000mhz ram running at 3000mhz there won’t be a lot to find. The whole pump your ram thing would only make a difference if you were running at 2133 or something.

Edited August 18, 2020 by Bombastinator

[Rori]

6 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

If your Radeon settings (GPU) can net you 180fps but due to reset of manual tuning, you drop down to 110fps, then it's not your CPU that's the problem it's the behvaior of the GPU.

 

I'd try to reinstall/DDU your graphics drivers to get more tuning/stability out of your manual tune on Adrenaline before you move further.

I just factory reset My overclock to default and i automatically got a more consistent fps capped @ 144fps. Just tried a game of warzone and CPU@50% usage and GPU@80% usage. 

Like i said before, ive had warzone super consistent and smooth but radeon settings keeps resetting and overclocking to my settings again does not give me my same performance.

[Rori]

7 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Not a setting.  3000mhz is already fairly fast, if it’s actually running at 3000.  Sometimes things drop back to default minimum.  Another oddity is DDR stands for “double data rate” so some stuff will sometimes  list at being half ram speed. If you’ve got 3000mhz ram running at 3000mhz there won’t be a lot to find. The whole pump your ram thing would only make a difference if you were running at 2133 or something.

just tested a game of warzone with default gpu settings w/out overclock and i got a smoother consistent feel. CPU usage is 50% and GPU is at 80% usage. 

[Bombastinator]

So more cpu probably isn’t the problem even with overclock gone. The only 80% gpu says there’s something slowing stuff down though. Iirc @Mister Woof had something to say about driver problems which would be an example of something else.   One complication is with a 16 thread chip if one core is maxes out and stuff isn’t offloaded even if you’ve got free cores the thing is maxed. So 50% might be more than 50% depending on how they are measuring.

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

So more cpu probably isn’t the problem even with overclock gone. The only 80% gpu says there’s something slowing stuff down though. Iirc @Mister Woof had something to say about driver problems which would be an example of something else.   

Honestly, if it seems smooth, the 5700xt at 80% and the 1700 at 50% is about right. Even at 50%, the CPU could still be fully tapped out (on the cores the software uses) and given it's an 8/16 chip, I'd say 50% utilization is pretty common for a capped out 8/16.

 

Seems like your GPU OC profile is not stable - see if you can just delete those profiles and see if you can get it to stick with the factory settings. 

If you are undervolting, it could be that your undervolt is too aggressive.

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Honestly, if it seems smooth, the 5700xt at 80% and the 1700 at 50% is about right. Even at 50%, the CPU could still be fully tapped out (on the cores the software uses) and given it's an 8/16 chip, I'd say 50% utilization is pretty common for a capped out 8/16.

 

Seems like your GPU OC profile is not stable - see if you can just delete those profiles and see if you can get it to stick with the factory settings. 

If you are undervolting, it could be that your undervolt is too aggressive.

Yeah, it depends on what 50% means.  With that many threads 50% could effectively be 100%. If the highest use core is 50% though the cpu is not buried

[Rori]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

Honestly, if it seems smooth, the 5700xt at 80% and the 1700 at 50% is about right. Even at 50%, the CPU could still be fully tapped out (on the cores the software uses) and given it's an 8/16 chip, I'd say 50% utilization is pretty common for a capped out 8/16.

 

Seems like your GPU OC profile is not stable - see if you can just delete those profiles and see if you can get it to stick with the factory settings. 

If you are undervolting, it could be that your undervolt is too aggressive.

I had a 2150 Freq at 1178 V(Recommended Volt). VRAM was OC to 1850 (1860 started getting green screen flashes) and GPU Power Limit was at 50%. I Would be perfectly fine staying at factory settings but warzone somehow feels like it's wanting to let go more but it cant. It is very hard to explain but its a visual feel to it. It just wouldnt make sense to me considering ive had instances where my game feels like its running at 200fps+ but a simple restart on the game changes. Im not sure if i have settings which are not compatible with each other causing the limit, which is why I thought asking for settings would fix.

 

Any OC recommendations which would fix the problem? 

 

[Bombastinator]

So the issue is more variation in frame rate.  A 180 average could still have 1% lows on the 60’s if the difference between 1% high and 1% low is great enough.  Average is just general.  A cap can sometimes raise 1% lows but it’s not reliable.  If you’ve got a 140fps average frame rate it’s going to be below 140fps half the time. It sounds like the 1% lows are the numbers that are bugging you. 

[Rori]

3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

So the issue is more variation in frame rate.  A 180 average could still have 1% lows on the 60’s if the difference between 1% high and 1% low is great enough.  Average is just general.  A cap can sometimes raise 1% lows but it’s not reliable.  If you’ve got a 140fps average frame rate it’s going to be below 140fps half the time. It sounds like the 1% lows are the numbers that are bugging you. 

180 average was only once or twice that ive experienced it. Most of the time it settles at 140 on a good day and 120 on a decent.

[Blue4130]

What is the per core utilization? Saying 50% doesn't help much. If the game only utilizes 4 cores and has those 4 pegged at 100%, taskmanager will say 50%. If that is the case you are cpu limited. 

[Rori]

13 hours ago, Blue4130 said:

What is the per core utilization? Saying 50% doesn't help much. If the game only utilizes 4 cores and has those 4 pegged at 100%, taskmanager will say 50%. If that is the case you are cpu limited. 

All my cores are performing at their designated mghz which is 3900

[Bombastinator]

53 minutes ago, Rori said:

All my cores are performing at their designated mghz which is 3900

Sure, but how full are they?  You’ve got a whole bunch of them, but if one is maxed the machine can’t go any faster.  If you’ve got empty cores along with a maxed one the system might read as having capacity free but further utilization is still impossible for that particular program.
 

It depends on how the system is measuring 50% because you have so many threads and there are so many programs 50% can mean different things.

[Rori]

5 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Sure, but how full are they?  You’ve got a whole bunch of them, but if one is maxed the machine can’t go any faster.  If you’ve got empty cores along with a maxed one the system might read as having capacity free but further utilization is still impossible for that particular program.
 

It depends on how the system is measuring 50% because you have so many threads and there are so many programs 50% can mean different things.

I am Using OpenHardwareMonitor Program to monitor all my temperatures and performance. If that is the case, what options do i have? Are there are hard resets I can do? I believe I have DDU'd a once or twice but It has never really solved the problem. 

 

[Blue4130]

4 hours ago, Rori said:

I am Using OpenHardwareMonitor Program to monitor all my temperatures and performance. If that is the case, what options do i have? Are there are hard resets I can do? I believe I have DDU'd a once or twice but It has never really solved the problem. 

 

You still haven't said what your per core usage is. You may not have an actual problem. Read my post above. Is one core pinned? 

[Rori]

30 minutes ago, Blue4130 said:

You still haven't said what your per core usage is. You may not have an actual problem. Read my post above. Is one core pinned? 

I checked my individual core performance with and i believe they are all working 100%