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Western Digital EIDE to USB.

VinnyGlennon
By VinnyGlennon
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Hi,

I have 2 old IDE Harddrives that I want to get old family photos from. What connector/cable is needed?

 

I have a Western Digital WD800 Caviar SE, an Enhanced IDE Hard Drive, S/N: WMAJ96809672 with 80 GB capacity. Same issue with a 41GB IBM Deskstar made in 2001, model 07N6654, ATA/IDE. Attachd.

 

I connect it to an IDE/SATA to USB adapter: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078GZG4ST/

The hard drive will then power up, but HD does not appear as a disk in Windows/Mac or Linux. The same USB adapter is working correctly with newer hard drives. 

 

A repair man was able to boot the disks up, using a different connector so I know the drives are working correctly.

 

I had hoped the IDE/SATA to USB connector would work but seems these hard drives are an older IDE version?

Happy to get recommendations and report back.

Vinny

 

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I don't think it has to do with IDE versions; I have an IDE adapter which works with a drive from 1991 and works with another drive from 2008.  Since you have access to Linux, could you post the section of your 'dmesg' output when you plug in the drive?  What does it show up as under lsusb?  Does anything new show up if you run lsblk?

If I have to explain every detail, I won't talk to you.  If you answer a question with what can be found through 10 seconds of googling, you've contributed nothing, as I assure you I've already considered it.

 

What a world we would be living in if I had to post several paragraphs every time I ask a question.

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The Hard drive powers up, but  I cannot see it via commands below


Western Digital Harddrive, I was able to recover some files using PhotoRec and my IDE/SATA to USB adapter: https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step . The Hard Drive did not appear mounted, but fdisk -l  reported its presence correctly

 

 

Other 2 Hard Drives:

CAVIAR  32500 2559.8MB HD;

sudo dmesg -C
sudo dmesg
[ 1926.567223] usb 2-1.7: USB disconnect, device number 5
[ 1930.862365] usb 2-1.7: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[ 1930.956849] usb 2-1.7: New USB device found, idVendor=1f75, idProduct=0611
[ 1930.956863] usb 2-1.7: New USB device strings: Mfr=4, Product=5, SerialNumber=6
[ 1930.956866] usb 2-1.7: SerialNumber: 20200416
[ 1930.957320] usb-storage 2-1.7:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 1930.957592] scsi host12: usb-storage 2-1.7:1.0
[ 1931.955663] scsi host12: scsi scan: INQUIRY result too short (5), using 36
[ 1931.955668] scsi 12:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic  ATA/ATAPI Device      PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[ 1931.956031] sd 12:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[ 1931.957897] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk

lsusb
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 413c:301a Dell Computer Corp. 
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 1f75:0611 Innostor Technology Corporation 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1c4f:0002 SiGma Micro Keyboard TRACER Gamma Ivory
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


(Note: Innostor Technology Corporation is the USB Adapter)


sudo fdisk -l 

Disk /dev/ram0: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram1: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram2: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram3: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram4: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram5: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram6: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram7: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram8: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram9: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram10: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram11: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram12: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram13: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram14: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram15: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/sda: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00063fe3

Device     Boot      Start        End    Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1             2048  724723711  724721664 345.6G 83 Linux
/dev/sda2  *     724723712 1952437002 1227713291 585.4G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       1952438272 1953521663    1083392   529M 27 Hidden NTFS WinRE


Disk /dev/sdb: 111.8 GiB, 120034123776 bytes, 234441648 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 800EBC96-3D31-46E3-B35B-F2D440DCA272

Device         Start       End   Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sdb1         34    195346    195313 95.4M EFI System
/dev/sdb2     195347 200966831 200771485 95.8G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sdb3  200966832 234441598  33474767   16G Linux swap

* sdb and sda are expected harddrives. sdc does not appear

sudo lsblk
NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
sda      8:0    0 931.5G  0 disk 
├─sda1   8:1    0 345.6G  0 part /media/Main
├─sda2   8:2    0 585.4G  0 part 
└─sda3   8:3    0   529M  0 part 
sdb      8:16   0 111.8G  0 disk 
├─sdb1   8:17   0  95.4M  0 part /boot/efi
├─sdb2   8:18   0  95.8G  0 part /
└─sdb3   8:19   0    16G  0 part [SWAP]
sr0     11:0    1  1024M  0 rom 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IBM DESKSTAR  41GB

sudo dmesg -C
sudo dmesg 

[ 2675.541195] usb 2-1.7: USB disconnect, device number 6
[ 2680.345815] usb 2-1.7: new high-speed USB device number 7 using ehci-pci
[ 2680.439783] usb 2-1.7: New USB device found, idVendor=1f75, idProduct=0611
[ 2680.439786] usb 2-1.7: New USB device strings: Mfr=4, Product=5, SerialNumber=6
[ 2680.439788] usb 2-1.7: SerialNumber: 20200416
[ 2680.440203] usb-storage 2-1.7:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 2680.440316] scsi host13: usb-storage 2-1.7:1.0
[ 2681.439078] scsi host13: scsi scan: INQUIRY result too short (5), using 36
[ 2681.439082] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic  ATA/ATAPI Device      PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[ 2681.439600] sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[ 2681.441659] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk

 


 sudo lsblk -l

Disk /dev/ram0: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram1: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram2: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram3: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram4: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram5: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram6: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram7: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram8: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram9: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram10: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram11: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram12: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram13: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram14: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram15: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/sda: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00063fe3

Device     Boot      Start        End    Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1             2048  724723711  724721664 345.6G 83 Linux
/dev/sda2  *     724723712 1952437002 1227713291 585.4G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       1952438272 1953521663    1083392   529M 27 Hidden NTFS WinRE


Disk /dev/sdb: 111.8 GiB, 120034123776 bytes, 234441648 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 800EBC96-3D31-46E3-B35B-F2D440DCA272

Device         Start       End   Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sdb1         34    195346    195313 95.4M EFI System
/dev/sdb2     195347 200966831 200771485 95.8G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sdb3  200966832 234441598  33474767   16G Linux swap
 

 

 

 

lsusb
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 413c:301a Dell Computer Corp. 
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 1f75:0611 Innostor Technology Corporation 
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1c4f:0002 SiGma Micro Keyboard TRACER Gamma Ivory
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

 

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Linux is aware that the disk is plugged in, but isn't producing an scsi device file (i.e. sdX) despite saying it's using sdc.  I seem to recall ` scsi scan: INQUIRY result too short (5), using 36` meaning something bad, but I don't fully remember. 

 

`hwinfo --disk` might show something, or you could try monitoring for any file changes in the /dev/disk/by-* folders to see if it gives you a new device file there.

If I have to explain every detail, I won't talk to you.  If you answer a question with what can be found through 10 seconds of googling, you've contributed nothing, as I assure you I've already considered it.

 

What a world we would be living in if I had to post several paragraphs every time I ask a question.

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