Upgrading to the new GPU

[Kouvpp]

Hi All,

 

I am writing to seek your advice on what GPU is suitable for my system if I want to upgrade.

Below is the list of my system.

 

Mainboard: ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO LGA 1150 Intel Z97

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K

GPU: MSI Gaming N770 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 4GB

RAM: 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3-1866

 

I do realise that this is quite an antique system but I do not means to spend on building a new system. Therefore, with the system I have, can I only upgrade my GPU to RTX 2070 super in order to be able to play 2020 games? Will it be a CPU bottleneck when upgrading?

 

Furthermore, If it is ok to upgrade, would it be possible to keep my old GPU and have the system run with 2 different GPUs? The thing is if I got the new GPU, I do not want to throw my old GPU away, I wish I could reuse it in some ways.

 

Moving from the GPU, I also wish to add more RAMs to my system to be 32GB. Currently, my RAM set up is 8GB in both A2 and B2. If I want to get additional 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 and config as below:

A1 Slot: 8GB DDR3-1866

A2 Slot: 8GB DDR3-2400

B1 Slot: 8GB DDR3-1866

B2 Slot: 8GB DDR3-2400

Will this setup work? And will I see any improvement in terms of the performances.

 

Thanks in advance for all your advices.

[Jurrunio]

8 minutes ago, Kouvpp said:

I do realise that this is quite an antique system but I do not means to spend on building a new system. Therefore, with the system I have, can I only upgrade my GPU to RTX 2070 super in order to be able to play 2020 games? Will it be a CPU bottleneck when upgrading?

Depends on the game but if you're on 1080p, expect CPU bottleneck most of the time. On 4K you need not worry unless you play simulators, 1440p is less clear.

 

8 minutes ago, Kouvpp said:

Furthermore, If it is ok to upgrade, would it be possible to keep my old GPU and have the system run with 2 different GPUs? The thing is if I got the new GPU, I do not want to throw my old GPU away, I wish I could reuse it in some ways.

Unless you need  more display outputs than 4, the extra card will just waste power and increase case temperature. You cannot get GPUs of so different performance level to work in tandem, heck even two similar GPUs (i.e. multiGPU tech like SLI, CF and DX12 multiGPU) are tough to optimize and are getting phased out (AMD cut CF support on new cards already) in the gaming segment.

 

8 minutes ago, Kouvpp said:

Moving from the GPU, I also wish to add more RAMs to my system to be 32GB. Currently, my RAM set up is 8GB in both A2 and B2. If I want to get additional 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 and config as below:

A1 Slot: 8GB DDR3-1866

A2 Slot: 8GB DDR3-2400

B1 Slot: 8GB DDR3-1866

B2 Slot: 8GB DDR3-2400

Will this setup work? And will I see any improvement in terms of the performances.

Extra unused capacity does not increase performance. Extra memory bandwidth does, but it wont help much with the CPU bottleneck being a much more prominent problem.

[Kouvpp]

44 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Depends on the game but if you're on 1080p, expect CPU bottleneck most of the time. On 4K you need not worry unless you play simulators, 1440p is less clear.

 

Unless you need  more display outputs than 4, the extra card will just waste power and increase case temperature. You cannot get GPUs of so different performance level to work in tandem, heck even two similar GPUs (i.e. multiGPU tech like SLI, CF and DX12 multiGPU) are tough to optimize and are getting phased out (AMD cut CF support on new cards already) in the gaming segment.

 

Extra unused capacity does not increase performance. Extra memory bandwidth does, but it wont help much with the CPU bottleneck being a much more prominent problem.

Thank you very much Jurrunio.

[Moonzy]

48 minutes ago, Kouvpp said:

Therefore, with the system I have, can I only upgrade my GPU to RTX 2070 super in order to be able to play 2020 games? Will it be a CPU bottleneck when upgrading?

i paired an RTX2070 super with my i5 6600 (4c/4t) and the limiting factor is my CPU more often than my GPU in 1080p on shadow of the tomb raider

i would say most of the time you would see CPU bottlenecking in 1080p. as others have said, higher res puts more load on the GPU, so it will be less of a problem, but overall still lower fps than 1080p

 

51 minutes ago, Kouvpp said:

Furthermore, If it is ok to upgrade, would it be possible to keep my old GPU and have the system run with 2 different GPUs? The thing is if I got the new GPU, I do not want to throw my old GPU away, I wish I could reuse it in some ways.

yes you can put multiple GPU in a system, as im doing right now (970+2070S)

but 2 things:

1) extra power draw, unless u DO have a good reason for two GPU

2) you'll be limited by driver support, when nvidia stops including the 700 series in your driver, you wont be able to update your driver. i am not aware of any method that allows u to install different driver for different card

 

53 minutes ago, Kouvpp said:

Moving from the GPU, I also wish to add more RAMs to my system to be 32GB. Currently, my RAM set up is 8GB in both A2 and B2. If I want to get additional 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 and config as below:

A1 Slot: 8GB DDR3-1866

A2 Slot: 8GB DDR3-2400

B1 Slot: 8GB DDR3-1866

B2 Slot: 8GB DDR3-2400

Will this setup work? And will I see any improvement in terms of the performances.

unless you're RAM limited, adding more capacity wont do anything

you'll also be limited at 1866, since you cant run rams at different speed individually

[Kouvpp]

1 hour ago, Moonzy said:

i paired an RTX2070 super with my i5 6600 (4c/4t) and the limiting factor is my CPU more often than my GPU in 1080p on shadow of the tomb raider

i would say most of the time you would see CPU bottlenecking in 1080p. as others have said, higher res puts more load on the GPU, so it will be less of a problem, but overall still lower fps than 1080p

 

yes you can put multiple GPU in a system, as im doing right now (970+2070S)

but 2 things:

1) extra power draw, unless u DO have a good reason for two GPU

2) you'll be limited by driver support, when nvidia stops including the 700 series in your driver, you wont be able to update your driver. i am not aware of any method that allows u to install different driver for different card

 

unless you're RAM limited, adding more capacity wont do anything

you'll also be limited at 1866, since you cant run rams at different speed individually

Thanks heaps Moonzy