Budget pc advice

[Jayber]

Budget (including currency):  Less than 400 euro, preferably around 350

Country: Ireland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Overwatch mostly, open world games and rpgs like RDR2 and witcher 3

Other details 1080p @ 60 Hertz

 

Looking for advice on parts for a secondary gaming PC as it is not feasible to bring my full tower system to my parents house every time i visit.

I have looked into the second hand market in my local area, but prices are unreasonable so I can't go the usual route of an old dell optiplex and a entry level graphics card. The poor second hand market in my local area has driven me to look for deals on second hand computer parts on Aliexpress. 

 

The image attached is what I was thinking of purchasing. Is this good value? Am i better off going with a ryzen apu build? I was planning to pair this with a thermaltake versa h15. Anybody here have experience with buying PC parts off ali?

 

Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated

 

 

 

 



[5x5]

Where did you even find such a horrid power supply? That's an honest achievement...

[Jayber]

6 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Where did you even find such a horrid power supply? That's an honest achievement...

I'm afraid thats as good as it gets by aliexpress standards, I might buy a vs450 or something on amazon when psu prices normalise.

I honestly just chose the first thing i could find on there that was 80+ anything and had 2 6+2 pin connectors.

Are there any qualms you have about it in particular?

 

(look at https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000416210261.html if you want some real psu gore)

[5x5]

44 minutes ago, Jayber said:

I'm afraid thats as good as it gets by aliexpress standards, I might buy a vs450 or something on amazon when psu prices normalise.

I honestly just chose the first thing i could find on there that was 80+ anything and had 2 6+2 pin connectors.

Are there any qualms you have about it in particular?

 

(look at https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000416210261.html if you want some real psu gore)

Get a SeaSonic S12III 500W - they're about 60-70 euros in Ireland and worlds better.

[Aereldor]

@Jayber - that really isn't a good deal on a Haswell CPU from 2013, especially when - even with Ireland's inflated prices - you could get a far better i3 9100F and an H310 motherboard for about the same...

How much is a used RX 570? Here's a build with safe components without a GPU, that would be under 400 if you get the GPU for less than 80.

Great love for Ireland, btw. Studied music in Galway briefly... Hope things are getting better there.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€82.57 @ Custompc
Motherboard	ASRock H310CM-DVS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	€57.33 @ Custompc
Memory	G.Skill Value 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory	€34.66 @ Custompc
Storage	Team GX1 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€37.19 @ Custompc
Case	Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	€47.90 @ Komplett
Power Supply	SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	€59.85 @ Komplett
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€319.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:01 IST+0100

 

 

[Jayber]

 

17 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

@Jayber - that really isn't a good deal on a Haswell CPU from 2013, especially when - even with Ireland's inflated prices - you could get a far better i3 9100F and an H310 motherboard for about the same...

How much is a used RX 570? Here's a build with safe components without a GPU, that would be under 400 if you get the GPU for less than 80.

Great love for Ireland, btw. Studied music in Galway briefly... Hope things are getting better there.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	€82.57 @ Custompc
Motherboard	ASRock H310CM-DVS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	€57.33 @ Custompc
Memory	G.Skill Value 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory	€34.66 @ Custompc
Storage	Team GX1 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	€37.19 @ Custompc
Case	Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case	€47.90 @ Komplett
Power Supply	SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	€59.85 @ Komplett
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€319.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:01 IST+0100

 

 

Thanks for the advice, it really set me in the right direction and helped my avoid the pain of aliexpress shipping times. PCPP ireland is a joke by the way, prices are ridiculous. We usually use amazon uk over here, hence why I use pcpp uk

 

how does this look:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pvCQq

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£63.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock H310CM-DVS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£46.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.82 @ CCL Computers) 
Custom: hard drive i have lying around 
Custom: rx 470 4g (£67.00)
Total: £321.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:16 BST+0100

[Aereldor]

3 minutes ago, Jayber said:

 

 

Thanks for the advice, it really set me in the right direction and helped my avoid the pain of aliexpress shipping times. PCPP ireland is a joke by the way, prices are ridiculous. We usually use amazon uk over here, hence why I use pcpp uk

 

how does this look:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pvCQq

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£63.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock H310CM-DVS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£46.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.82 @ CCL Computers) 
Custom: hard drive i have lying around 
Custom: rx 470 4g (£67.00)
Total: £321.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:16 BST+0100

You can order from the UK? Why didn't you say so. Wait a minute.

[koptr]

3 minutes ago, Jayber said:

 

 

Thanks for the advice, it really set me in the right direction and helped my avoid the pain of aliexpress shipping times. PCPP ireland is a joke by the way, prices are ridiculous. We usually use amazon uk over here, hence why I use pcpp uk

 

how does this look:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pvCQq

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£63.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: ASRock H310CM-DVS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£46.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£62.43 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£34.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: EVGA BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£46.82 @ CCL Computers) 
Custom: hard drive i have lying around 
Custom: rx 470 4g (£67.00)
Total: £321.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:16 BST+0100

Good build for the money, but if you can get an SSD maybe for Operating System only for ~30$.

[Jayber]

8 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

You can order from the UK? Why didn't you say so. Wait a minute.

Yes, but not all sellers ship to ireland. CCL and amazon are the main 2 that do this off the top of my head. There is a workaround for sellers that dont ship to ireland, where you can get the package sent to a parcel motel in northern Ireland (technically part of the UK) and get it sent over south for about 5 euro extra, so not the end of the world if the seller is not so kind as to ship to those in ireland

7 minutes ago, koptr said:

Good build for the money, but if you can get an SSD maybe for Operating System only for ~30$.

 I might pick up a cheapo dramless drive at some stage, thanks for the advice

[Aereldor]

15 minutes ago, Jayber said:

Yes, but not all sellers ship to ireland. CCL and amazon are the main 2 that do this off the top of my head. There is a workaround for sellers that dont ship to ireland, where you can get the package sent to a parcel motel in northern Ireland (technically part of the UK) and get it sent over south for about 5 euro extra, so not the end of the world if the seller is not so kind as to ship to those in ireland

 I might pick up a cheapo dramless drive at some stage, thanks for the advice

You don't need to do any of that, because this is within your budget. Don't mind the 2400 memory, intel chips don't really benefit from RAM frequency, at least not nearly as much as AMD
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£63.00 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Biostar H310MHP Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	£49.48 @ Ebuyer
Memory	Crucial 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory	£29.26 @ Amazon UK
Storage	TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£28.69 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card	£124.99 @ CCL Computers
Case	Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case	£29.35 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	KOLINK Classic Power 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£36.95 @ Currys PC World
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£361.72
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:49 BST+0100

 

[Jayber]

2 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

You don't need to do any of that, because this is within your budget. Don't mind the 2400 memory, intel chips don't really benefit from RAM frequency, at least not nearly as much as AMD
 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£63.00 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Biostar H310MHP Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	£49.48 @ Ebuyer
Memory	Crucial 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory	£29.26 @ Amazon UK
Storage	TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£28.69 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card	£124.99 @ CCL Computers
Case	Xigmatek Scorpio MicroATX Mid Tower Case	£29.35 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	KOLINK Classic Power 400 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£36.95 @ Currys PC World
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£361.72
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 21:49 BST+0100

 

Thanks man, really appreciate this

[Aereldor]

6 minutes ago, Jayber said:

Thanks man, really appreciate this

Of course. I picked out that board because it has out of the box support for the 9th gen intels. This should last you a while, but the priority of upgrades should be adding another of the same RAM stick when you can, and expanding your storage.

[Aereldor]

If you can, buy a freesync monitor... They don't cost much more than normal ones and you'll have a way better gaming experience.