New pc for friend

[flamegame855]

Budget: 700 USD

 

Country: USA

 

It will be used for gaming

 

My friend already has a monitor (1080p 60hz), peripherals, and a windows key.

He will buy it soon.

 

I will help him build it but idk how to install windows because he bought an OEM disc but most modern cases don’t have disc drives.

[zeusthemoose]

You can either use an external disc drive or maybe the product key is written on the disc and you can install windows with a usb drive then activate with the key.

[flamegame855]

1 minute ago, zeusthemoose said:

You can either use an external disc drive or maybe the product key is written on the disc and you can install windows with a usb drive then activate with the key.

He probably has a usb stick but isn’t windows 20gb? He’s gonna need one that’s more than that right?

[kb5zue]

To make the installation easy, the best thing you could do would be to create a bootable USB with the Windows Media Creation too.  Just go to the website I post here and follow the onscreen instructions.  Eazy Peazy, XYZ.

 

https://www.bing.com/search?q=windows+media+creation+tool&form=ANNNB1&refig=c59b83c15ea74dd0b6f82305023b6b65&sp=2&qs=EP&pq=windows+med&sk=PRES1EP1&sc=8-11&cvid=c59b83c15ea74dd0b6f82305023b6b65

[flamegame855]

Just now, kb5zue said:

To make the installation easy, the best thing you could do would be to create a bootable USB with the Windows Media Creation too.  Just go to the website I post here and follow the onscreen instructions.  Eazy Peazy, XYZ.

 

https://www.bing.com/search?q=windows+media+creation+tool&form=ANNNB1&refig=c59b83c15ea74dd0b6f82305023b6b65&sp=2&qs=EP&pq=windows+med&sk=PRES1EP1&sc=8-11&cvid=c59b83c15ea74dd0b6f82305023b6b65

Ok, can you make me a pcpartpicker? That’s the main thing i need

[zeusthemoose]

2 minutes ago, flamegame855 said:

Ok, can you make me a pcpartpicker? That’s the main thing i need

It is a bit over to add an ssd.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$139.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$87.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$37.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card	$149.99 @ Amazon
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$52.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$723.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 00:20 EDT-0400

 

[flamegame855]

Just now, zeusthemoose said:

It is a bit over to add an ssd.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$139.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$87.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$37.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 570 8 GB Video Card	$149.99 @ Amazon
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$52.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$723.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 00:20 EDT-0400

 

I’m not quite sure about amd cards since I don’t really pay attention to them, what’s the nvidia equivalent for the rx 570?

[zeusthemoose]

9 minutes ago, flamegame855 said:

I’m not quite sure about amd cards since I don’t really pay attention to them, what’s the nvidia equivalent for the rx 570?

The 1650 super. It’s more expensive though (but also faster).

[flamegame855]

1 minute ago, zeusthemoose said:

The 1650 super. It’s more expensive though (but also faster).

What about 1660 super, also i saw that the 3200g is way less expensive but it has the same clock speed and cores, mabye I could get a better gpu if I get a cheaper cpu

[zeusthemoose]

8 minutes ago, flamegame855 said:

What about 1660 super, also i saw that the 3200g is way less expensive but it has the same clock speed and cores, mabye I could get a better gpu if I get a cheaper cpu

You could go for a 3200g, however that is based on an older architecture and is much slower. Also, the 3200g is an apu so more focus is put into the graphics part of the chip than in the 3100. This shows the difference is benchmarks: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_3_3100-1344-vs-amd_ryzen_3_3200g-952

 

if you wanted a 1650 super or 1660 super, and stay under $700, you could wait for the new GPUs to come out and buy one when they decrease in price. Or buy one used now

[flamegame855]

Just now, zeusthemoose said:

You could go for a 3200g, however that is based on an older architecture and is much slower. Also, the 3200g is an apu so more focus is put into the graphics part of the chip than in the 3100. This shows the difference is benchmarks: https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-amd_ryzen_3_3100-1344-vs-amd_ryzen_3_3200g-952

 

if you wanted a 1650 super or 1660 super, and stay under $700, you could wait for the new GPUs to come out and buy one when they decrease in price. Or buy one used now

Ok I think I can still get a 1660 super in a 700 dollar budget so I’m gonna make a pcpartpicker, he’s probably not gonna need the fastest stuff. The 3200g is slower but it’s almost 50 dollars less and in a small budget like this is good

[flamegame855]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$87.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$72.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$42.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$39.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card	$239.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$99.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$738.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 00:56 EDT-0400

I think the 1660 super can make up for the 8gb of ram, he can probably get another 8gb kit later. I don’t think he needs 16gb anyway

[Mazdaspeeding]

The 3200g is an APU and is designed for computers without graphics cards.  Don't buy it if you plan on using a 1650/1660.  The 3100/3300 is much better even with the price difference.

 

The 3200g is second gen Ryzen and much slower per core.

[flamegame855]

1 minute ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

The 3200g is an API and is designed for computers without graphics cards.  Don't buy it if you plan on using a 1650/1660.

But it’s only like 80 dollars

[Mazdaspeeding]

Yeah and it's second gen Ryzen and much slower per core.  You're paying $80 for a $50 CPU with a $30 integrated graphics card you won't use.  The 3100 is worth every penny extra.

 

A 1600 or 2600 would also be much better choices than the 3200g.

[flamegame855]

1 minute ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

Yeah and it's second gen Ryzen and much slower per core.  You're paying $80 for a $50 CPU with a $30 integrated graphics card you won't use.  The 3100 is worth every penny extra.

Ok, I know i can spend more for more performance, but my friend does not need the fastest, it’s still a cheap cpu and more than enough for him.

[zeusthemoose]

8 minutes ago, flamegame855 said:

I think the 1660 super can make up for the 8gb of ram, he can probably get another 8gb kit later. I don’t think he needs 16gb anyway

I would not recommend that build. You ended up paying double for the psu, almost double for the ssd, and more for the case. I’ll try and adjust the build I posted to get a 1660 super in. Does it have to be new?

[Mazdaspeeding]

Repeat, the 3200g is an *APU* that is designed to be used in computers without a dedicated graphics card.  You're over paying for it if you use it with a 1660 or 1650.  

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HqBD3/amd-ryzen-5-1600-12nm-32-ghz-6-core-processor-yd1600bbafbox

 

This is what you want instead if you want cheap.

[flamegame855]

1 minute ago, zeusthemoose said:

I would not recommend that build. You ended up paying double for the psu, almost double for the ssd, and more for the case. I’ll try and adjust the build I posted to get a 1660 super in. Does it have to be new?

Well I don’t want him to have old stuff, plus I think he will be fine with only 8gb for now, I had 8gb of ram in my system for a while and I never really noticed slowdowns even with extra stuff in the background, and as I said he can always upgrade later if he needs to.

[flamegame855]

1 minute ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

Repeat, the 3200g is an *APU* that is designed to be used in computers without a dedicated graphics card.  You're over paying for it if you use it with a 1660 or 1650.  

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HqBD3/amd-ryzen-5-1600-12nm-32-ghz-6-core-processor-yd1600bbafbox

 

This is what you want instead if you want cheap.

That’s 20 dollars more and like i said, HE WILL BE FINE WITH A 3200G, and your also forgetting that he can always upgrade later if he needs to

[zeusthemoose]

Here is one with the 1660 super. I had to add a cheaper case, 1 tb hdd, and 8gbs ram

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$109.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$31.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$37.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$39.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card	$239.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$52.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$697.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 01:13 EDT-0400

 

[zeusthemoose]

1 minute ago, flamegame855 said:

That’s 20 dollars more and like i said, HE WILL BE FINE WITH A 3200G, and your also forgetting that he can always upgrade later if he needs to

I get upgrading ram and storage, but going with a worse cpu and planning on upgrading isn’t what I would recommend.

[Mazdaspeeding]

1 minute ago, zeusthemoose said:

I get upgrading ram and storage, but going with a worse cpu and planning on upgrading isn’t what I would recommend.

Don't bother bro, this dude knows what he wants already.  The first pcpartpicker list that someone put in front of him is what he's going to buy because he don't know any better.

[flamegame855]

4 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

Here is one with the 1660 super. I had to add a cheaper case, 1 tb hdd, and 8gbs ram

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$109.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$31.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Green 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$37.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$39.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card	$239.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case	$54.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply	Thermaltake Smart 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	$52.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$697.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-12 01:13 EDT-0400

 

Also I kinda looked over the psu before but 50 dollars is very cheap for a psu, idk if i can trust it. But yea the rest of the system is fine. As I said multiple times, he’ll be fine with a 3200g. So with the psu I picked and a 3200g it will be 30 dollars over but that’s not that much.

[Mazdaspeeding]

Gosh, what an unbalanced and overpriced build.  Low end APU and a mid range graphics card right out the gate.  Your friend would be better off with a pre-built.