HELP

[OakiDoki]

So i recently built a new gaming pc with the following specs:

 

NVIDIA RTX 2070 super gaming x trio,

AMD Ryzen 9 3900x,

2x 16GB Corsair RGB vengeance pro (and i checked theyre in the right channels),

Noctua NHU12A,

Asus TUF gaming x570 plus,

Corsair TX750,

2TB seagate Barracuda HDD,

Samsung 970 evo plus 250GB m.2 SSD,

Corsair Crystal 570x  

 

I installed Windows 10 pro on it and enabled D.O.C.P profile, i installed the Armoury crate driver, NVIDIA Experience, Amd ryzen Master, Msi Afterburner and all the other drivers and checked that they were up to date.

 

Yet sometime randomly when restarting or booting up the pc it randomly shuts down and starts again and that multiple times in a row. In basically any game i play i regularly get fps drops, e.g. i didnt even crack 80 fps in overwatch on low settings, in sea of thieves im constantly getting frame drops even though it says i get high fps and generally its definitely underperforming. Ive done multiple complete resets reinastalling everything including the OS aswell as using DUC to uninstall the drivers aswell as checking for faulty hardware through scans (nothing found) . When i look at benchmarks it also says that my GPU is only using 60% of its power, im really at my limits and frustrated, could somebody please help me with this.

 

[Statik]

Try benchmarking your GPU with 3DMark or something similar, and use Cinebench R20 for your CPU, then report back your scores/temps.

[OakiDoki]

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3 hours ago, Statik said:

Try benchmarking your GPU with 3DMark or something similar, and use Cinebench R20 for your CPU, then report back your scores/temps.

so i ran the 3Dmark test although i was only able ot use the Time spy option since i dont have the full version but is this of any help to you?

[Statik]

1 hour ago, OakiDoki said:

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so i ran the 3Dmark test although i was only able ot use the Time spy option since i dont have the full version but is this of any help to you?

Your GPU scores seem pretty average for a 2070S. How about your CPU in R20?

 

As well, what are your temps? I think it's unlikely you're experiencing thermal issues, but it's good to rule out.

[OakiDoki]

2 hours ago, Statik said:

Your GPU scores seem pretty average for a 2070S. How about your CPU in R20?

 

As well, what are your temps? I think it's unlikely you're experiencing thermal issues, but it's good to rule out.

Im not sure how to check those things exactly since it tells me i need to upgrade to do anything other than time spy test

 

[Statik]

1 hour ago, OakiDoki said:

Im not sure how to check those things exactly since it tells me i need to upgrade to do anything other than time spy test

 

Don't use timespy for your CPU. Use Cinebench R20, it's free. And use HWiNFO64 for your temps.

[OakiDoki]

Is this right?

19 hours ago, Statik said:

Don't use timespy for your CPU. Use Cinebench R20, it's free. And use HWiNFO64 for your temps.

[OakiDoki]

19 hours ago, Statik said:

Don't use timespy for your CPU. Use Cinebench R20, it's free. And use HWiNFO64 for your temps.

In cinebench my cpu got 6762 points when i ran the test

[Statik]

4 hours ago, OakiDoki said:

In cinebench my cpu got 6762 points when i ran the test

Can you use HWiNFO in sensor mode. I need the temperatures. It also appears your 3900x is running a little slow. You should probably be breaking 7000 at stock speeds.

 

Use sensor mode, and navigate to your CPU temps, and clock speeds. It seems a little weird that 3 cores are boosting and the other 9 are not.

[OakiDoki]

On 6/10/2020 at 9:32 PM, Statik said:

Can you use HWiNFO in sensor mode. I need the temperatures. It also appears your 3900x is running a little slow. You should probably be breaking 7000 at stock speeds.

 

Use sensor mode, and navigate to your CPU temps, and clock speeds. It seems a little weird that 3 cores are boosting and the other 9 are not.

Im Sorry for taking so long to reply but does this help you at all? another issue is that my pc randomly lags or windows crash, so i reset my pc and then it boots up and shuts back down repetitively until it boots in safe mode and brings me to the bios where there is no issue given. This happens frequently. windows scan indicate no viruses or malware and  im reinstalled the OS mulitple times. 

[Statik]

On 6/25/2020 at 5:08 PM, OakiDoki said:

Im Sorry for taking so long to reply but does this help you at all? another issue is that my pc randomly lags or windows crash, so i reset my pc and then it boots up and shuts back down repetitively until it boots in safe mode and brings me to the bios where there is no issue given. This happens frequently. windows scan indicate no viruses or malware and  im reinstalled the OS mulitple times. 

Somebody else may be able to chip in and confirm, or tell me I'm dumb. But I feel those chiipset temps on your mobo are slightly higher than they should be? They might be causing the issues? That is banking on those being load temps? If those are idle/med load temps, then I'm sure pinning your PC will result in even higher chipset temps which might be the cause of your issues?

 

Other than that, to be honest, if everything is installed/updated properly then you should be good to go? This is a new build right? Not an upgrade? If it's an upgrade make sure you DDU any old drivers from previous hardware, that might cause issues.

[OakiDoki]

15 hours ago, Statik said:

Somebody else may be able to chip in and confirm, or tell me I'm dumb. But I feel those chiipset temps on your mobo are slightly higher than they should be? They might be causing the issues? That is banking on those being load temps? If those are idle/med load temps, then I'm sure pinning your PC will result in even higher chipset temps which might be the cause of your issues?

 

Other than that, to be honest, if everything is installed/updated properly then you should be good to go? This is a new build right? Not an upgrade? If it's an upgrade make sure you DDU any old drivers from previous hardware, that might cause issues

Yeah it's a completely New build. I should have all the divers install Ed and I frequently check them for the newest Updates. Regarding the chipset temps, 

Is there a way for me to fix those? Im currently only using the 3 Fans that came with the case, could that be an issue? 

[OakiDoki]

On 6/10/2020 at 9:32 PM, Statik said:

Can you use HWiNFO in sensor mode. I need the temperatures. It also appears your 3900x is running a little slow. You should probably be breaking 7000 at stock speeds.

 

Use sensor mode, and navigate to your CPU temps, and clock speeds. It seems a little weird that 3 cores are boosting and the other 9 are not.

Regarding the core boosts you Saw is there any way to fix too? 

[Statik]

21 minutes ago, OakiDoki said:

Yeah it's a completely New build. I should have all the divers install Ed and I frequently check them for the newest Updates. Regarding the chipset temps, 

Is there a way for me to fix those? Im currently only using the 3 Fans that came with the case, could that be an issue? 

Possibly? Are you able to direct a fan to increase airflow over the chipset? I have the same board, but I have 8 fans in my case, however, my 2080 Super is bascially completely covering the chipset fan, but my temps are cooler.

9 minutes ago, OakiDoki said:

Regarding the core boosts you Saw is there any way to fix too? 

I'm honestly not too sure. I would run P95 / R20 and see how it runs. Maybe it was a fluke?

[OakiDoki]

58 minutes ago, Statik said:

Possibly? Are you able to direct a fan to increase airflow over the chipset? I have the same board, but I have 8 fans in my case, however, my 2080 Super is bascially completely covering the chipset fan, but my temps are cooler.

I'm honestly not too sure. I would run P95 / R20 and see how it runs. Maybe it was a fluke?

This is how i currently have my 3 fans set up (picture of the pc) I dont see another configuration that would cool the chipset more or am i missing something? Edit: i notice that just like you my 2070 super is also basically covering the chipset, is this bad?

[OakiDoki]

31 minutes ago, Statik said:

Possibly? Are you able to direct a fan to increase airflow over the chipset? I have the same board, but I have 8 fans in my case, however, my 2080 Super is bascially completely covering the chipset fan, but my temps are cooler.

I'm honestly not too sure. I would run P95 / R20 and see how it runs. Maybe it was a fluke?

 

44 minutes ago, Statik said:

Possibly? Are you able to direct a fan to increase airflow over the chipset? I have the same board, but I have 8 fans in my case, however, my 2080 Super is bascially completely covering the chipset fan, but my temps are cooler.

I'm honestly not too sure. I would run P95 / R20 and see how it runs. Maybe it was a fluke?

Right now im running prime95 on a stress test and in task Manager it says my cpu is using 100% constantly but there aren't any resulsts coming in do I need to leave it for a bit or waht do I do now? 

[Statik]

28 minutes ago, OakiDoki said:

 

Right now im running prime95 on a stress test and in task Manager it says my cpu is using 100% constantly but there aren't any resulsts coming in do I need to leave it for a bit or waht do I do now? 

Prime95 is a stress test, not a benchmark. It doesn't give you a score, it only stops when you turn it off.

 

Also are your only 3 fans the 2 on the cooler, and the 1 exhaust in the back? If that's the case i would personally recommend getting 2 more fans for front intake, which will pull the fresh air through the entire case. You effectively have 1 case fan right now.

 

Unless there's 2 on the front I just can't see? I can't tell if it's just RGB or not?

[OakiDoki]

14 minutes ago, Statik said:

Prime95 is a stress test, not a benchmark. It doesn't give you a score, it only stops when you turn it off.

 

Also are your only 3 fans the 2 on the cooler, and the 1 exhaust in the back? If that's the case i would personally recommend getting 2 more fans for front intake, which will pull the fresh air through the entire case. You effectively have 1 case fan right now.

 

Unless there's 2 on the front I just can't see? I can't tell if it's just RGB or not?

Yeah its 2 of the case fans in the front. I was thinking of getting corsair LL120 series (probably 6 of them for raplacing the currrent ones since theyre hella loud) what airflow configuration would you recommend if i did that? front 3 for intake and top 2/ back for exhaust? another question i have is if you recon if water cooling could be possible due to my graphics card being really big and taking in a LOT of space and if so could it be a replacement for the fans?

 

Btw thank you so much for your help!

[Statik]

12 minutes ago, OakiDoki said:

Yeah its 2 of the case fans in the front. I was thinking of getting corsair LL120 series (probably 6 of them for raplacing the currrent ones since theyre hella loud) what airflow configuration would you recommend if i did that? front 3 for intake and top 2/ back for exhaust? another question i have is if you recon if water cooling could be possible due to my graphics card being really big and taking in a LOT of space and if so could it be a replacement for the fans?

 

Btw thank you so much for your help!

I have some LL120's and they're solid fans. Good quality. Realistically as long as you have (somewhat) equal intake to outtake you'll be fine. 3 intake, 2 exhaust is a very popular and effective setup.

 

And what are you talking about when you reference water cooling? Are you suggesting a custom loop? Sure your temps will be amazing, but custom loops get very expensive, have to be maintained, and have a way bigger possibility of pouring water on your PC.

 

Also not to mention it won't save space. You'll need room for rads, tubing, fans, pump/reservoir, etc. 

 

EDIT: I've always considered custom loops a enthusiast thing. There's very seldom, if ever, a situation where a custom loop is a "common fix".

[OakiDoki]

1 minute ago, Statik said:

I have some LL120's and they're solid fans. Good quality. Realistically as long as you have (somewhat) equal intake to outtake you'll be fine. 3 intake, 2 exhaust is a very popular and effective setup.

 

And what are you talking about when you reference water cooling? Are you suggesting a custom loop? Sure your temps will be amazing, but custom loops get very expensive, have to be maintained, and have a way bigger possibility of pouring water on your PC.

 

Also not to mention it won't save space. You'll need room for rads, tubing, fans, pump/reservoir, etc. 

 

EDIT: I've always considered custom loops a enthusiast thing. There's very seldom, if ever, a situation where a custom loop is a "common fix".

With watercooling i was primarily thinking of a corsair hydro h100i with the radiator being at the top of my case (if theres enough space). Of course custom loops are cool but im too intimidated to try and taking expenses into consideration its just not worth it like you said. you mentioned a popular configuration of fans is 3 intake 2 exhaust, what do i do with the 6th fan in that case then?

[Statik]

42 minutes ago, OakiDoki said:

With watercooling i was primarily thinking of a corsair hydro h100i with the radiator being at the top of my case (if theres enough space). Of course custom loops are cool but im too intimidated to try and taking expenses into consideration its just not worth it like you said. you mentioned a popular configuration of fans is 3 intake 2 exhaust, what do i do with the 6th fan in that case then?

You could also simply do 3/3. If you had a H100i you could mount it topside w/ 2 fans, then have 1 fan rear exhaust, then stack 3 at the front for intake. That's what I would do. You'd be even pressure, or even slightly positive.

 

And keep in mind installing an AIO won't effect any other temps besides your CPU.

[OakiDoki]

Apart from getting more Fans and getting better airflow is there another thing I could do to better chipset temps? Do I apply thermal paste somehow?