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Intel or AMD for Rendering ? & WHY ?

Hello guys 👋

I'm new here and i am a 3D artist. last month i lost my Asus X99 Deluxe motherboard and problem still exist.here is short story of mine problem to you get know about my discussion .🙂
 the problem is when i turned PC on system get power for 1 sec and gone. we tested all parts and everything was good except motherboard, and after this i send the board to the repair specialist.  because of this i should sell my hardware and buy new one, because i cant find new Asus x99 in my country market and i cant order new one from international market like amazon or Alibaba or ... for no make sense and very high cost and also Ruthless sanctions. ( we have low value currency vs dollar 🤬 ) anyway, i cant get another motherboard model because my cpu is 5960X with LGA2011-V3 socket.so finally i decide to buy new Mb and cpu and cpu cooler.
and here is my question.
I've research about Intel or AMD CPU 2019 & 2020 models, life and parameters for 2 weeks and still i didn't get a satisfying result. as you know before i started this i told you im 3d artist and my work is modelling and rendering
my main question is about life of CPU models between Intel and AMD for rendering job in cpu based software's and its very important to me and second is i heard and read about new AMD models benchmarks and performance but some body told me its just in a paper not in rendering or calculation and somebody told me AMD is just for gaming ...
so after this long story I'm confused about models and hardware's life time and which is better for rendering. and let me add this, i have no experience to work with AMD Cpu model and after all i want to know best MB model for choosen CPU.
Say whatever comes to your mind that helps me. Thanks and sorry for my bad English language 🙏😉


I bought My PC 5 years ago
MB: Asus X99 Deluxe usb 3.1
GPU: Asus GTX 980TI Strix DDR5
CPU: Intel 5960X LGA2011-v3
CPU Cooler: Enermax LIQTECH  240HP
Ram: Gskill Ripjaws 3000 16G
HDD: Western blue 1T
SSD: Samsung 850 pro 128G
Power: Cooler Master 1200w Platinum
Case: Cooler Master HAFX 


Regards

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4 minutes ago, Omid Changizi said:

somebody told me AMD is just for gaming ...

Idk who told you that but they clearly don't know anything (no offense)

 

4 minutes ago, Omid Changizi said:

my main question is about life of CPU models between Intel and AMD for rendering job in cpu based

Amd's platform (pga 1331) can he used for both professionals and consumers

Getting a 3900x with an x570 board will do you really good unless your budget allows for something more 

The 3900x has really good ipc and has 12 and 24 cores/ threads but if you can scale even higher a 3950x has 16 and 32 cores and threads 

And has practically the best ipc out of all cpu's 

If you your into AVX then these cpu's will work great aswell  

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It will depend in part on what software you use, and if that software can make use of some features only currently available on Intel. Try and find performance comparisons others might have done with the software you actually use and care about for performance.

 

Generally speaking, AMD's Zen 2 based CPUs are on a par with recent Intel CPUs, but you can get more value. I don't know if that applies to your regional pricing, so do check.

 

Do you need a lot of ram capacity or ram bandwidth? That might steer you towards Threadripper or Cascade Lake-X CPUs. The Cascade Lake-X does have support for AVX-512, and if software you use supports it, that can give a significant boost. 

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53 minutes ago, Omid Changizi said:

Hello guys 👋

I'm new here and i am a 3D artist. last month i lost my Asus X99 Deluxe motherboard and problem still exist.here is short story of mine problem to you get know about my discussion .🙂
 the problem is when i turned PC on system get power for 1 sec and gone. we tested all parts and everything was good except motherboard, and after this i send the board to the repair specialist.  because of this i should sell my hardware and buy new one, because i cant find new Asus x99 in my country market and i cant order new one from international market like amazon or Alibaba or ... for no make sense and very high cost and also Ruthless sanctions. ( we have low value currency vs dollar 🤬 ) anyway, i cant get another motherboard model because my cpu is 5960X with LGA2011-V3 socket.so finally i decide to buy new Mb and cpu and cpu cooler.
and here is my question.
I've research about Intel or AMD CPU 2019 & 2020 models, life and parameters for 2 weeks and still i didn't get a satisfying result. as you know before i started this i told you im 3d artist and my work is modelling and rendering
my main question is about life of CPU models between Intel and AMD for rendering job in cpu based software's and its very important to me and second is i heard and read about new AMD models benchmarks and performance but some body told me its just in a paper not in rendering or calculation and somebody told me AMD is just for gaming ...
so after this long story I'm confused about models and hardware's life time and which is better for rendering. and let me add this, i have no experience to work with AMD Cpu model and after all i want to know best MB model for choosen CPU.
Say whatever comes to your mind that helps me. Thanks and sorry for my bad English language 🙏😉


I bought My PC 5 years ago
MB: Asus X99 Deluxe usb 3.1
GPU: Asus GTX 980TI Strix DDR5
CPU: Intel 5960X LGA2011-v3
CPU Cooler: Enermax LIQTECH  240HP
Ram: Gskill Ripjaws 3000 16G
HDD: Western blue 1T
SSD: Samsung 850 pro 128G
Power: Cooler Master 1200w Platinum
Case: Cooler Master HAFX 


Regards

Depends what intel CPU’s your comparing but if we’re comparing a i9 10900k and a 3900x productivity wise the 3900x wins, the 3800x beats out there i7 line as well in most cases but the kicker is amd is LOADS cheaper in comparison so even if in one application intel is 1 second faster it’s not worth the 200-500 dollars over the amd counterpart.

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Idk who told you that but they clearly don't know anything (no offense)

Yea bro im agree with you 🙂

 

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Getting a 3900x with an x570 board will do you really good unless your budget allows for something more

actually im stock between this and 9900k ... but as you say i think more about 3900X 
thanks and appreciate your help

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2 minutes ago, porina said:

The Cascade Lake-X does have support for AVX-512, and if software you use supports it, that can give a significant boost. 

Sorry I forgot to say this 

The 10980xe has the best AVX 512 performance out there if your into that 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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What about a x99 motherboard from another brand? 

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1 minute ago, Drama Lama said:

What about a x99 motherboard from another brand? 

The problem is they're really old now and hard to find except looking at the used market. There may be regional variations, but the better branded ones are stupid money in the UK.

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Former Main system (to be retired): Asus Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700k, Noctua D14, G.Skill Ripjaws 4 3333@2133 4x4GB, GTX 1650, Corsair HX750i, In Win 303 NVIDIA, Samsung SM951 512GB, WD Blue 1TB, Acer RT280k 4k60 FreeSync [link]
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2 minutes ago, Drama Lama said:

What about a x99 motherboard from another brand? 

i cant find any motherboard with LGA2011 socket in our market 

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6 minutes ago, Omid Changizi said:

i cant find any motherboard with LGA2011 socket in our market 

If my guess is correct as to which market/country you are refering to, I can understand that it's not easy to get new hardware at reasonable prices (because of trading and banking restrictions). Several years ago, I was looking for computer parts there and noticed that they were about one generation behind and more expensive than in Europe.
I guess your best choices would be to still try to find something on the used market or try to find out if you can buy parts in a neighboring country without having to pay too much for importing them. There may also be people who are doing import/export for a living and can procure the parts you otherwise wouldn't get in your country from abroad.

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It will depend in part on what software you use, and if that software can make use of some features only currently available on Intel. Try and find performance comparisons others might have done with the software you actually use and care about for performance.

i use V-Ray and its cpu base engine and CORES is important. so if i choose amd how about cpu LIFE time ?

 

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Do you need a lot of ram capacity or ram bandwidth?

32 or 64G in enough for me


Bro our bigger problem in my country, is our currency. all hardware's importer in my country work and calculated prices with US dollar . and here is the history of our currency in date. its awful. in 2009 was normal for us because our income equaled with Europe and America, even before 2009 was lower.

Year   -  USD  -  Toman (our currency)
2009       1                  1000                             
2010       1                  1100                      
2011       1                  1800              
2012       1                  3650             
2013       1                  3600                    
2014       1                  3550                    
2015       1                  3600                
2016       1                  3750                 
2017       1                  4250                 
2018       1                  15150                                    
2019       1                  12000 ~ 13000                     
2020       1                  16000~17000

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43 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Sorry I forgot to say this 

The 10980xe has the best AVX 512 performance out there if your into that 

it’s hard to recommend that because it’s a small fortune lol

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Just now, IC4 said:

it’s hard to recommend that because it’s a small fortune lol, but if he’s trying for the best of best, I would just get a thread ripper at that point

Yea I agree but if the tasks specifically requires a good fpu and AVX 512/ 2.0 

Honestly simply the 10980xe is kind of the best at that 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea I agree but if the tasks specifically requires a good fpu and AVX 512/ 2.0 

Honestly simply the 10980xe is kind of the best at that 

Yea I edited my comment. I can’t even say what I said because I didn’t realize how far the threadripper from the 10980xe was lmao I agree if he’s going for the absolute maximum the 10890xe is viable but problably worth looking into benchmarks with the 3900x if it’s close enough for him not to care it’s worth saving 450 bucks

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28 minutes ago, greenhorn said:

If my guess is correct as to which market/country you are refering to, I can understand that it's not easy to get new hardware at reasonable prices (because of trading and banking restrictions). Several years ago, I was looking for computer parts there and noticed that they were about one generation behind and more expensive than in Europe.

world is going crazy dude ! specially my country ☹️

 

31 minutes ago, greenhorn said:

I guess your best choices would be to still try to find something on the used market or try to find out if you can buy parts in a neighboring country without having to pay too much for importing them. There may also be people who are doing import/export for a living and can procure the parts you otherwise wouldn't get in your country from abroad.

yes its good option i know im still searching 

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Just now, IC4 said:

Yea I edited my comment. I can’t even say what I said because I didn’t realize how far the threadripper from the 10980xe was lmao I agree if he’s going for the absolute maximum the 10890xe is viable but problably worth looking into benchmarks with the 3900x if it’s close enough for him not to care it’s worth saving 450 bucks

Interms of raw performance the 3900x is better p/p but in specific tasks like AVX there is not a cpu on the market (excluding LGA 3647) that can match the 10980xe 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

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So Guys how about CPU lifes ? which brand have longer life in your opinion ?

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3 hours ago, Omid Changizi said:

So Guys how about CPU lifes ? which brand id longer in your opnion ?

You’ll replace them before either of them die.

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