Productivity Laptop

[Jishaku]

Hi yall!

I need a laptop mainly for productivity/office work but I also want to play games occasionally.

Most important aspects for me:

• Good keyboard!!
• Large battery 
• Reliability and good support (specifically for business customers. -> Dell is not an option. They only treat you as as business if you buy a LOT, and I can't afford to get normal consumer support on my main work machine. I won't buy Acer, or gaming brands either; too many bad experiences. => I like Lenovo and Microsoft.)
• No gaming design. (That includes the aggressive designs of HP spectre machines.)
• Decent Screen
• Decent GPU
• I REALLY want Microsoft Precision Drivers
• No larger than 15"

Budget is ~3000

I was thinking new Surface Book 15" i7; 32gb; 1TB; 1660 Ti

Really like the 3x2 display for office work, but idc about the tablet mode. The battery is great though.

 

So I can't get the XPS cause of Dell, don't like Hps design and the current Lenovo X1 Extreme has thermal issues, a weaker GPU and less RAM.

Any other Options I am missing?

 

Thank you in advance.

[GDRRiley]

asus g14

[Jishaku]

4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

asus g14

The design is too angular/gamery.
Especially that ROG badge and gamer-font on the keyboard are too much for me.

[zeusthemoose]

Aorus 15g? It has a mechanical keyboard

 

have you watched the new ltt video on the surface book 3?

[GDRRiley]

5 minutes ago, Jishaku said:

The design is too angular/gamery.
Especially that ROG badge and gamer-font on the keyboard are too much for me.

your wish list isn't going to come in a probook or something. it is a fairly plain metal in black or silver.

that surface book is over double the cost of a top end G14

[Jishaku]

3 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

Aorus 15g? It has a mechanical keyboard

 

have you watched the new ltt video on the surface book 3?

Gigabyte is not really on the my list of people who make reliable products, along with msi and razer.

The design is a little less in your face gamer than the asus, but I don't really like it either. And the bottom mounted webcam sucks especially in quarantine.

 

I saw the video. I was pretty sure I would get it before, but since the review was not exceedingly positive, I thought I would ask here.
Though it seems, the only comparable products are the XPS and Spectre lineup, which I already discussed.

[Jishaku]

14 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

your wish list isn't going to come in a probook or something. it is a fairly plain metal in black or silver.

that surface book is over double the cost of a top end G14

I know, that I wont get a probook with those specs, but the design just won't work. I have regular client meetings and conferences, where stuff like that just looks too unprofessional and is not acceptable.

The price does not really matter in my case. 

 

Edit: Also the G14 does not come with 32 GB RAM for multitasking and I do not have particularly CPU heavy tasks.

[zeusthemoose]

Just now, Jishaku said:

I know, that I wont get a probook with those specs, but the design just won't work. I have regular client meetings and conferences, where stuff like that just looks too unprofessional and is not acceptable.

The price does not really matter in my case. 

How do you feel about the msi gs66 stealth?

[Jishaku]

4 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

How do you feel about the msi gs66 stealth?

That one looks ok. But it still has the gamer keyboard font and the dragon on the lid. I just don't get why they keep doing that...

I wouldn't want that on a pure gaming keyboard either.

 

Do you know anything about  msi and gagabytes build quality and support? I would not expect advanced support packages to be available for gaming notebooks. (Like the business versions of the Microsoft products)

[zeusthemoose]

1 minute ago, Jishaku said:

Do you know anything about  msi and gagabytes build quality and support? I would not expect advanced support packages to be available for gaming notebooks. (Like the business versions of the Microsoft products)

I dont know about first party support, but i have squaretrade. It is from allstate (you can get it on amazon) and covers pretty much everything (including water damage and drops).

[GDRRiley]

30 minutes ago, Jishaku said:

I have regular client meetings and conferences, where stuff like that just looks too unprofessional and is not acceptable.

The price does not really matter in my case. 

 

Edit: Also the G14 does not come with 32 GB RAM for multitasking and I do not have particularly CPU heavy tasks.

it doesn't from factor but can be easily upgraded.

who the hell are you clients that a silver laptop with a small badge and a non standard font get called unprofessional.

 

[Jishaku]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

it doesn't from factor but can be easily upgraded.

who the hell are you clients that a silver laptop with a small badge and a non standard font get called unprofessional.

 

We do web dev for the local branches of all kinds of brands.
Everything contributes to a first impression, and even loosing a single contract would cost immeasurably more than a laptop. 

[GDRRiley]

7 minutes ago, Jishaku said:

We do web dev for the local branches of all kinds of brands.
Everything contributes to a first impression, and even loosing a single contract would cost immeasurably more than a laptop. 

then buy a mac if you need that amazing first sight

they aren't going to care what you come in with. I do freelance video work and I've had meetings with macs, probooks, msi gaming laptops with dragons no one cares.