Mouse help

[Skeleton022]

Hi there!

 

So my mouse died today, and I want to replace it, but I just can not figure out a mouse for myself.

I need a mouse with bluetooth and if its possible with a cable as well (just like the corsair dark core with optional usb), but I want just one or two buttons on the side, not a full "keyboard"  . Also I want the fast scroll wheel to it.

If not possible all of this, the main points are the fast scroll wheel and bluetooth, and it has to be available in Europe.

 

Please help me to find my dream mouse 
Thanks guys, and stay healthy.

[Skeleton022]

Specifically bluetooth with optional cable (I really don't want any dongles to stay in one of my few usb ports)

Both home and travel, but currently mainly for home.

Mostly for work, I don't need any fancy rgb or anything, but it would be nice if I could configure the dpi :)

 

Preference of weight? Yo mean the whole mice's weight or the possibility to put weights in it?

 

I'm not sure about the budget, if its a good mouse I think I will buy it :) 

[Oswin]

3 minutes ago, Skeleton022 said:

Specifically bluetooth with optional cable (I really don't want any dongles to stay in one of my few usb ports)

Both home and travel, but currently mainly for home.

Mostly for work, I don't need any fancy rgb or anything, but it would be nice if I could configure the dpi

 

Preference of weight? Yo mean the whole mice's weight or the possibility to put weights in it?

 

I'm not sure about the budget, if its a good mouse I think I will buy it

remember to quote when you reply

he probably means the weight of the mouse not adjustable weights

how about the size?

[BTGbullseye]

On 5/13/2020 at 10:49 AM, Skeleton022 said:

Specifically bluetooth with optional cable

I don't think I've seen that on anything but extremely cheap and crappy mice...

[Skeleton022]

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[Skeleton022]

On 5/13/2020 at 6:53 PM, Oswin said:

remember to quote when you reply

he probably means the weight of the mouse not adjustable weights

how about the size?

I'm not an expert just a base user, so I don't really know what are the weights

I would like a middle sized mouse, for the ease of travel.

 

2 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

I don't think I've seen that on anything but extremely cheap and crappy mice...

I don't think I've seen that on anything but extremely cheap and crappy mice...

[Oswin]

17 minutes ago, Skeleton022 said:

I'm not an expert just a base user, so I don't really know what are the weights

I would like a middle sized mouse, for the ease of travel.

 

the MX anywhere 2s should be solid, but it is not a gaming mouse though it fits all of your needs

[Oswin]

2 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

I don't think I've seen that on anything but extremely cheap and crappy mice...

good quality ones exist though they are not gaming mice

[BTGbullseye]

11 hours ago, Oswin said:

good quality ones exist though they are not gaming mice

Bluetooth for mice actually is really bad, so not really a "good quality" thing.

[Oswin]

7 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Bluetooth for mice actually is really bad, so not really a "good quality" thing.

why so? 

[BTGbullseye]

1 hour ago, Oswin said:

why so? 

Extremely high latency connection with within a generally very saturated set of wavelengths that cause interference. (jumpy movement and missed clicks abound in this situation) It's also not common to find a mouse that has anything better than one of the "low power" versions of bluetooth, which are even worse performers. Basically, unless all you're ever doing is browsing or word processing, bluetooth is very bad.

[Oswin]

2 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Extremely high latency connection with within a generally very saturated set of wavelengths that cause interference. (jumpy movement and missed clicks abound in this situation) It's also not common to find a mouse that has anything better than one of the "low power" versions of bluetooth, which are even worse performers. Basically, unless all you're ever doing is browsing or word processing, bluetooth is very bad.

i wont say bluetooth has an "extremely high latency" but for competitive gaming yes, but they still include a receiver anyways.

what kind of interference? there are article's online of how to fix this, a friend of mine also uses bluetooth on his MX master 3 and it works fine with no stutters.

in this case he stated a mouse for ease of travel, so latency wont be much of a problem really. 

 

[BTGbullseye]

On 5/17/2020 at 3:50 AM, Oswin said:

i wont say bluetooth has an "extremely high latency" but for competitive gaming yes, but they still include a receiver anyways.

Most do not include a receiver, and I've seen latency as high as 35ms, which is more than enough to misclick or completely skip a click alltogether.

On 5/17/2020 at 3:50 AM, Oswin said:

what kind of interference?

Both other bluetooth devices and wifi will cause interference that does affect performance and battery life of wireless mice. So will wireless charging, and some electronics.

On 5/17/2020 at 3:50 AM, Oswin said:

there are article's online of how to fix this

And most of them involve either leaving the area, disabling all other bluetooth devices in the area, turning off wifi, or simply switching to a non bluetooth mouse entirely.

On 5/17/2020 at 3:50 AM, Oswin said:

a friend of mine also uses bluetooth on his MX master 3 and it works fine with no stutters.

Congrats on him for achieving that... Most people will suffer some interference at least with bluetooth mice.

On 5/17/2020 at 3:50 AM, Oswin said:

in this case he stated a mouse for ease of travel, so latency wont be much of a problem really. 

Just because you're traveling, it doesn't mean you should give up the ability to reliably click your mouse.

[Oswin]

30 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Most do not include a receiver, and I've seen latency as high as 35ms, which is more than enough to misclick or completely skip a click alltogether.

Both other bluetooth devices and wifi will cause interference that does affect performance and battery life of wireless mice. So will wireless charging, and some electronics.

And most of them involve either leaving the area, disabling all other bluetooth devices in the area, turning off wifi, or simply switching to a non bluetooth mouse entirely.

Congrats on him for achieving that... Most people will suffer some interference at least with bluetooth mice.

Just because you're traveling, it doesn't mean you should give up the ability to reliably click your mouse.

pretty sure i am not talking about some crappy <20$ mouse. wouldn't recommend them either since you will end up wasting money. 

[Skeleton022]

On 5/16/2020 at 12:50 PM, Oswin said:

the MX anywhere 2s should be solid, but it is not a gaming mouse though it fits all of your needs

Thanks a lot!
I did a bit of searching, and some people said it does not have a place to put the usb adapter.

Does it have an adapter, or is it directly connecting to a laptop via bluetooth?

[Oswin]

6 hours ago, Skeleton022 said:

Thanks a lot!
I did a bit of searching, and some people said it does not have a place to put the usb adapter.

Does it have an adapter, or is it directly connecting to a laptop via bluetooth?

you can use either the included dongle or bluetooth

[Skeleton022]

On 5/20/2020 at 6:47 PM, Oswin said:

you can use either the included dongle or bluetooth

Thanks a lot!

 

I think the MX anywhere 2s is the winner.

 

Thanks for everybody!!