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10 minutes ago, Yasir Mehmood said:

distribute wifi between 1000 people in 1KM of range

This is not a trivial setup. Wi-fi straight up doesn't have 1km range (limited by transmit power of client devices) or bandwidth (each additional device is another chance for transmit collision, especially in an area 1km in radius (hidden nodes)). I highly doubt there's a single antenna solution.

 

We're talking dozens of access points, at least, I'd wager.

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2 hours ago, Yasir Mehmood said:

I want to setup wifi network i have 2 connection of wifi 250MB and 500MB and distribute wifi between 1000 people in 1KM of range.

What type of wifi outdoor antenna i should use?

And how to setup this network?

You’re talking WISP setup here, which by no means is going to be simple or cheap. While I admire your DIY approach, have you tried contacting a local firm to help you plan this out properly? Will you be providing technical support yourself for this setup?

 

Do you represent a small business? What is the purpose of this project? And when you say “i have 2 connection of wifi 250MB and 500MB...” do you mean that you have 2 ISP lines of 250Mbps and 500Mbps (please note the speed units being used)?

 

Even if you were find some way to coalesce the bandwidth of the two, which is a mini-project of its own, 750Mbps is not going to be enough bandwidth for yourself (the provider) and your 1000+ clients. You have to think about the worse case scenario when all 1000+ clients decide to go online at once. The network will grind to a crawl because of limited overhead bandwidth.

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12 hours ago, Falcon1986 said:

You’re talking WISP setup here, which by no means is going to be simple or cheap. While I admire your DIY approach, have you tried contacting a local firm to help you plan this out properly? Will you be providing technical support yourself for this setup?

 

Do you represent a small business? What is the purpose of this project? And when you say “i have 2 connection of wifi 250MB and 500MB...” do you mean that you have 2 ISP lines of 250Mbps and 500Mbps (please note the speed units being used)?

 

Even if you were find some way to coalesce the bandwidth of the two, which is a mini-project of its own, 750Mbps is not going to be enough bandwidth for yourself (the provider) and your 1000+ clients. You have to think about the worse case scenario when all 1000+ clients decide to go online at once. The network will grind to a crawl because of limited overhead bandwidth.

yes i'm setting up this network to my own.

It's kind of small business. Yes i have 2 ISP lines of 250Mbps & 500Mbps total i have 750Mbps, if it's not enough bandwidth then i can upgrade 250Mbps to 500Mbps then i have total 1000Mbps and i have 800 to 1000 clients.

let me explain more "

there is a camp in range of 1KM  and camp have 200 rooms each room consist of 4 or 5 people.

I can setup a LAN network 1 router in each room and 200 routers in whole camp but that's too complex for me to handle.
so, i want to setup outdoor wifi network use 2 or 3 outdoor antenna and provide wifi to each person.
what type of wifi outdoor antenna i need to use?
How to setup and manage this network?

 

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2 hours ago, Yasir Mehmood said:

How to setup and manage this network?

Again, as I stated before, this is a large project and I would encourage you to employ a firm that deals with such setups to at least assess your needs (from bandwidth to hardware) and how you're going to manage it.

 

First of all, I would suggest you dedicate an entire ISP line for this project. You should approach your ISP to determine the business accounts available and what they can provide. You just don't need massive download bandwidth; you also need a lot of upload bandwidth. And you might need to notify them that you'll be using their connection in this way or else you might be flagged for high bandwidth usage and reselling without permission.

 

In this scenario, Ubiquiti hardware might be what you need. In summary, you'll need a point-to-point (directional) wireless bridge to get the signal that far then distribute the signal (omni-directional) to your clients. The latter might be best set up in a point-to-multipoint configuration with clients using individual airCubes in their rooms, for example. Or you might just choose to use several outdoor antennae which will eliminate 1 more piece of hardware to manage.

 

Please refer to the Ubiquiti Community forums to get specific help.

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9 hours ago, Falcon1986 said:

Again, as I stated before, this is a large project and I would encourage you to employ a firm that deals with such setups to at least assess your needs (from bandwidth to hardware) and how you're going to manage it.

 

First of all, I would suggest you dedicate an entire ISP line for this project. You should approach your ISP to determine the business accounts available and what they can provide. You just don't need massive download bandwidth; you also need a lot of upload bandwidth. And you might need to notify them that you'll be using their connection in this way or else you might be flagged for high bandwidth usage and reselling without permission.

 

In this scenario, Ubiquiti hardware might be what you need. In summary, you'll need a point-to-point (directional) wireless bridge to get the signal that far then distribute the signal (omni-directional) to your clients. The latter might be best set up in a point-to-multipoint configuration with clients using individual airCubes in their rooms, for example. Or you might just choose to use several outdoor antennae which will eliminate 1 more piece of hardware to manage.

 

Please refer to the Ubiquiti Community forums to get specific help.

Thank You

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