amd first build need help

[wassil]

hey guys its my first build and iam stuck between two choices i want a build that will hold against upecoming games (next gen consoles) 

 

build1: ryzen 5 3600x + rx 5600xt 

 vs 

 build2: ryzen 7 3700x + 1660 super 

 

 

 

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, wassil said:

i want a build that will hold against upecoming games (next gen consoles) 

so basically you want a 6 year old PC?

/s

 

if there's no specific workload you need an 8 core CPU for, the Ryzen 5 3600 (non x, save the money) and a better GPU is ideal for a gaming PC.

[Entropy.]

7 minutes ago, wassil said:

hey guys its my first build and iam stuck between two choices i want a build that will hold against upecoming games (next gen consoles) 

 

build1: ryzen 5 3600x + rx 5600xt 

 vs 

 build2: ryzen 7 3700x + 1660 super 

 

 

 

r 5 3600 (non-x, x literally only comes with a factory oc, its useless) and a 5600xt/5700 

[wassil]

2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

so basically you want a 6 year old PC?

/s

 

if there's no specific workload you need an 8 core CPU for, the Ryzen 5 3600 (non x, save the money) and a better GPU is ideal for a gaming PC.

in my country the 3600x and the non X are almost on the same price like not higher than 15$, so a 6c/12t will be enough for the next 6 years ?

[Boyohan]

5 minutes ago, wassil said:

hey guys its my first build and iam stuck between two choices i want a build that will hold against upecoming games (next gen consoles) 

 

build1: ryzen 5 3600x + rx 5600xt 

 vs 

 build2: ryzen 7 3700x + 1660 super 

 

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

if there's no specific workload you need an 8 core CPU for, the Ryzen 5 3600 (non x, save the money) and a better GPU is ideal for a gaming PC.

Agreed. 

 

If all you want is a gaming PC the R5 3600 (non X) is the best choise and spend the remaining money on the best possible GPU. 

 

[iBabySlapper]

5 minutes ago, wassil said:

in my country the 3600x and the non X are almost on the same price like not higher than 15$, so a 6c/12t will be enough for the next 6 years ?

Unless you can get a 3600X for the same price as a 3600 (like I did), there's no good reason to buy the 3600X. You might as well spend the $15 on a cheap Wish dragon dildo or something (not buying advice).

And yes, 6c/12t should be good for a while. And in the event that you need to get more cores, you could switch CPUs in minutes.

 

[Boyohan]

4 minutes ago, wassil said:

in my country the 3600x and the non X are almost on the same price like not higher than 15$, so a 6c/12t will be enough for the next 6 years ?

I would believe so but 6 years is a long time so hard to say. 

And it also depends on what type of resolution and frame rate your monitor has. 

For 1080p @ 60hz is will be fine.

1440p @ 144hz your GPU will struggle.

I would say you need 5700xt / 2070S minimum for 1440p/144hz. 

[wassil]

3 minutes ago, ibabyslapper said:

Unless you can get a 3600X for the same price as a 3600 (like I did), there's no good reason to buy the 3600X. You might as well spend the $15 on a cheap Wish dragon dildo or something (not buying advice).

And yes, 6c/12t should be good for a while.

 

is it bad to cheap up on a psu ?

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, wassil said:

in my country the 3600x and the non X are almost on the same price like not higher than 15$, so a 6c/12t will be enough for the next 6 years ?

next 6 years? We can't see the future so we don't know. you can upgrade with any decent AM4 motherboard though so not like it will be a problem.

 

2 minutes ago, wassil said:

is it bad to cheap up on a psu ?

it's one of the worst things you can do when making a PC

[wassil]

3 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

I would believe so but 6 years is a long time so hard to say. 

And it also depends on what type of resolution and frame rate your monitor has. 

i have a 1080p60hz 

[Boyohan]

3 minutes ago, wassil said:

is it bad to cheap up on a psu ?

YES don't buy a cheap PSU. 

Most decent/good PSUs has 5-10 years of warranty.

But an +80 bronze 550W-650W  from a respectable brand will be fine.

[wassil]

6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

next 6 years? We can't see the future so we don't know. you can upgrade with any decent AM4 motherboard though so not like it will be a problem.

 

it's one of the worst things you can do when making a PC

between this two psu wich one is trustworthy ? 

THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER GRAND RGB 650W ( tier A- on the list)

COOLER MASTER MASTERWATT 650 Gold (tier B on the list )

[wassil]

4 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

YES don't buy a cheap PSU. 

Most decent/good PSUs has 5-10 years of warranty.

But an +80 bronze 550W-650W  from a respectable brand will be fine.

between this two psu wich one is trustworthy ? 

THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER GRAND RGB 650W ( tier A- on the list)

COOLER MASTER MASTERWATT 650 Gold (tier B on the list )

[iBabySlapper]

1 minute ago, wassil said:

between this two psu wich one is trustworthy ? 

THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER GRAND RGB 650W ( tier A- on the list)

COOLER MASTER MASTERWATT 650 Gold (tier B on the list )

The one that's higher in the list. I have a A- PSU and it hasn't exploded, yet.

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, wassil said:

between this two psu wich one is trustworthy ? 

THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER GRAND RGB 650W ( tier A- on the list)

COOLER MASTER MASTERWATT 650 Gold (tier B on the list )

neither is necessarily more "trustworthy" so you should get the higher rated one.

[wassil]

this is my final list let me know what you guys think 

ryzen 5 3600

msi b450 tomahawk

2x8 3000mhz

256ssd m.2 + 1tbhdd

rx5700

THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER GRAND gold RGB 650W

 

also should i build it myself or let the seller build it for me ( i have watched alot of videos iam confident i can build it but let me know you guys have experience 

[Boyohan]

Just now, wassil said:

this is my final list let me know what you guys think 

ryzen 5 3600

msi b450 tomahawk

2x8 3000mhz

256ssd m.2 + 1tbhdd

rx5700

THERMALTAKE TOUGHPOWER GRAND gold RGB 650W

Looks alright.

 

The only thing I would suggest is slightly faster memory as ryzen CPUs benefits from fast memory. 

3200mhz/3600mhz with decent timings.

But the memory you have choosen isn't bad and will work fine. 

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, wassil said:

also should i build it myself or let the seller build it for me ( i have watched alot of videos iam confident i can build it but let me know you guys have experience

building yourself is probably the best way to do it, if you have videos to refer to then it's fine.

[Boyohan]

6 minutes ago, wassil said:

also should i build it myself or let the seller build it for me ( i have watched alot of videos iam confident i can build it but let me know you guys have experience 

Building a PC isn't that hard as there are a lot of good guide videos and instructions on the interwebs...

It is basically like building very expensive Lego. 

Take your time, study and read the instructions and you will be fine.