GT-1030

[CT-7567]

Can I use a gt 1030 (30w) and 12gb of ram + i5-7400 with a 180w PSU?

Or do I need to buy a bigger PSU?

thank you!

 

[papajo]

3 minutes ago, CT-7567 said:

Can I use a gt 1030 (30w) and 12gb of ram + i5-7400 with a 180w PSU?

Or do I need to buy a bigger PSU?

thank you!

 

yes you can

[5x5]

I'd strongly suggest upgrading the power supply - that can probably only output 140-150W on the +12v Rail - and that's a best case scenario. Get a decent unit and don't gamble with your system

[papajo]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I'd strongly suggest upgrading the power supply - that can probably only output 140-150W on the +12v Rail - and that's a best case scenario. Get a decent unit and don't gamble with your system

its enough both of GPU and CPU are not going to exceed 95 watts 

[5x5]

3 minutes ago, papajo said:

its enough both of GPU and CPU are not going to exceed 95 watts 

35W for the 1030, 75W for the i5, 20W for the drives, 10W for the RAM, 10W for the board, 10W for fans

Total: 150-160W under load.

You were saying?

[papajo]

Just now, 5x5 said:

35W for the 1030, 75W for the i5, 20W for the drives, 10W for the RAM, 10W for the board, 10W for fans

Total: 150-160W under load.

You were saying?

he talks about 30 watts for the GT 1030, the i5 has a 65watt tdp 10w for each drive is like a max peak 10 watt for the board and  less than 5 watt for the fans assuming he has less than 3 which is quite possible (since a fan at max speed consumes about 1,5 volt at 1amp so like 1,5 watt  each. so 120 watts total. 

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

75W for the i5,

The i5-7500 draws less than 50 watts

[mariushm]

First of all, don't buy a GT1030 if you didn't buy one already. It's a shit video card, without very low performance.

 

Yes, you will be fine with that 180w power supply. The i5 cpu will average around 50-60 watts, the ram maybe 10w , the motherboard around 10-20 watts and the video card 30 watts. You're not even getting close to 125w.

Mechanical drives consume around 6-8w , fans consume around 2w ( ex 12v x 0.15a = 1.8w)

[5x5]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

The i5-7500 draws less than 50 watts

Mine goes to 73W - not sure where your info is coming from.

[5x5]

1 minute ago, papajo said:

he talks about 30 watts for the GT 1030, the i5 has a 65watt tdp 10w for each drive is like a max peak 10 watt for the board and  less than 5 watt for the fans assuming he has less than 3 which is quite possible (since a fan at max speed consumes about 1,5 volt at 1amp so like 1,5 watt  each. so 120 watts total. 

1030's base clock is at 30W - once you actually run one - it boosts to a max of 45W

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Mine goes to 73W - not sure where your info is coming from.

Tom's hardware

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870-11.html

Quote

Under our Watch Dogs 2 sequence, we measure an average power consumption of 42 to 43W across the entire CPU. Nice. On their own, the execution cores consume just 32W.

...

AIDA64's stability test results in an increased power consumption of 49W. 

 

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Tom's hardware

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870-11.html

 

Their sample as good - mine is shit. But the average I'd say is 65W at least.

[mariushm]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Their sample as good - mine is shit. But the average I'd say is 65W at least.

Does Techspot have a good sample as well?

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1332-mainstream-intel-core-i3-vs-core-i5/page3.html

 

48w idle, 83w load (so 35w + around 5-10w the minimum idle power consumption)

 

i5 7500

 

https://www.eteknix.com/intel-core-i5-7500-kaby-lake-processor-review/8/

 

54.2 idle, 111.6w load , so 57.4w difference +5-10w idle power consumption... < 60w

and 7400 being lower frequency should consume a bit less.

[5x5]

Just now, mariushm said:

Does Techspot have a good sample as well?

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1332-mainstream-intel-core-i3-vs-core-i5/page3.html

 

48w idle, 83w load (so 35w + around 5-10w the minimum idle power consumption)

 

i5 7500

 

https://www.eteknix.com/intel-core-i5-7500-kaby-lake-processor-review/8/

 

54.2 idle, 111.6w load , so 57.4w difference +5-10w idle power consumption... < 60w

and 7400 being lower frequency should consume a bit less.

I'm telling you - I've exchanged it multiple times - best one is 73W so far

[mariushm]

How do you measure, power consumption at the mains socket, power consumption at the 4 pin / 8 pin cpu connector, value reported by the VRM (which is maybe 90% efficient) ?

 

Anyway, doesn't matter. Give or take 10 watts, the end of the day the total power consumption will be under 150 watts anyway.

[papajo]

4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Mine goes to 73W - not sure where your info is coming from.

Its a non overclockable CPU intels own website has it as 65watt tdp so I think that is the case... 

 

4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

1030's base clock is at 30W

with no OC the card isnt going to exceed the TDP in any concernable way

 

here a toms hardware test 

 

 

where the card reached during torture 33.6 and peaked (for less than 50 ms) 48 watts but torture means running some powerbug or stress-test which wont be the case if he just casual games on it. 

[5x5]

Just now, papajo said:

Its a non overclockable CPU intels own website has it as 65watt tdp so I think that is the case... 

 

with no OC the card isnt going to exceed the TDP in any concernable way

 

here a toms hardware test 

 

 

where the card reached during torture 33.6 and peaked (for less than 50 ms) 48 watts but torture means running some powerbug or stress-test which wont be the case if he just casual games on it. 

The card will autooverclock in any reasonable situation due to GPU Boost.

Also - TDP is NOT power draw.

[fatalz]

By all means I would say no. You would need 300w PSU as Nvidea's site says so and judging from my experience since I still use a GT 1030 in a optiplex system as a storage server. Tried it with a 180w and it fried so by all means just follow what the Nvidea site says or the box that the GT 1030 comes in.

[papajo]

18 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The card will autooverclock in any reasonable situation due to GPU Boost.

Also - TDP is NOT power draw.

It is max power draw for all means and purposes unless you overclock it. 

 

And the auto overclock it might do as seen in the metrics is nothing meaningful like the card reached 32 whats on gaming... what more do you need to see that its not going to draw more power? 

 

If it was power hungry it would had its own power connector. 

[5x5]

Just now, papajo said:

It is power draw for all means and purposes unless you overclock it. 

 

And the auto overclock it might do as seen in the metrics is nothing meaningful like the card reached 32 whats on gaming... what more do you need to see that its not going to draw more power? 

 

If it was power hungry it would had its own power connector. 

A PCIe power connector is only needed past 75W for PCIe 3.0 and 150W for 4.0. anyhow, do what you will, the OPs system will be unstable and crash not yours. Hell have power supply issue and, God for I'd, damaged components when the Chinese 180W unit catches fire

[mariushm]

2 minutes ago, fatalz said:

By all means I would say no. You would need 300w PSU as Nvidea's site says so and judging from my experience since I still use a GT 1030 in a optiplex system as a storage server. Tried it with a 180w and it fried so by all means just follow what the Nvidea site says or the box that the GT 1030 comes in.

nVidia has to say a specific minimum value, and they say 300w to guarantee a minimum level of quality from the power supply people buy.

For example, there are 250-300w power supplies out there which can only output a very low amount of power on the 12v output, from where the processor and video card are powered.

 

Here's an example : iBall 250w power supply : https://www.amazon.in/iBall-Computer-Power-Supply-ZPS-281/dp/B01LXOXXKR

If you look on the second picture you will see on the label the maximum power on 12v as 11A ... which means only 132 watts out of 250w are on 12v output.

 

There are LOTS of OEM power supply from Dell and HP and Acer which are rated for 180-240w which are bronze or even gold efficiency rated and which are "optimized" for 12v output, being capable of 80-90% of the total power on 12v. 

As he said it's a Dell PSU, it's safe to assume that's not a shit power supply and that it can do at least around 150w on 12v.

 

Still, it wouldn't hurt for the guy to be careful and check the psu capabilities first.

[papajo]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

A PCIe power connector is only needed past 75W for PCIe 3.0 and 150W for 4.0. anyhow, do what you will, the OPs system will be unstable and crash not yours. Hell have power supply issue and, God for I'd, damaged components when the Chinese 180W unit catches fire

it will run fine. nothing will catch on fire. 

[mariushm]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

A PCIe power connector is only needed past 75W for PCIe 3.0 and 150W for 4.0. anyhow, do what you will, the OPs system will be unstable and crash not yours. Hell have power supply issue and, God for I'd, damaged components when the Chinese 180W unit catches fire

The slots on motherboards are still rated for maximum 75w (10w on 3.3v and ~65w on 12v).

The slots didn't magically gain more contacts/pins or thicker contacts/pin capable of carrying double the amount of current through the slot.

 

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, mariushm said:

The slots on motherboards are still rated for maximum 75w (10w on 3.3v and ~65w on 12v).

The slots didn't magically gain more contacts/pins or thicker contacts/pin capable of carrying double the amount of current through the slot.

 

The pins have a 75W rating but are physically capable of far more on modern boards. Don't forget PCIe 3.0 is almost 9 year old tech