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Hey Boys and girls. Looking to buy some new stuff for my pc new mb new ram and new CPU. I need some help i play bf5 so it has to run smooth give me some good items. I just Got the new Msi 2070super rtx. It dont need to be super insane High end but also not low end but top tier
 

so here is whst i need 

 

mb

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ram

 

hope to hear from you guys😇

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1 minute ago, Bone36 said:

Hey Boys and girls. Looking to buy some new stuff for my pc new mb new ram and new CPU. I need some help i play bf5 so it has to run smooth give me some good items. I just Got the new Msi 2070super rtx. It dont need to be super insane High end but also not low end but top tier
 

so here is whst i need 

 

mb

cpu

ram

 

hope to hear from you guys😇

what are you willing to spend on these parts?

I'd suggest a Ryzen 5 3600 , 16 gb of ram 8x2 3600 mhz , b450 tomahawk max should cost you around 400$ max (prices could be higher cause of Covid).

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A budget for the whole system would be nice

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

A budget for the whole system would be nice

800 to 900 usd

 

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5 minutes ago, Bruh1 said:

what are you willing to spend on these parts?

I'd suggest a Ryzen 5 3600 , 16 gb of ram 8x2 3600 mhz , b450 tomahawk max should cost you around 400$ max (prices could be higher cause of Covid).

I like Intel more 800 to 900 usd

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2 minutes ago, Bone36 said:
7 minutes ago, Bruh1 said:

what are you willing to spend on these parts?

I'd suggest a Ryzen 5 3600 , 16 gb of ram 8x2 3600 mhz , b450 tomahawk max should cost you around 400$ max (prices could be higher cause of Covid).

I like Intel more 800 to 900 usd

 

AMD is kind of the no-brainer at this point. it is cheaper, same single threaded performance, more cores, more features, unlocked OC and SMT on nearly all models. Until Intel comes out with a suitable response, you are kind of throwing your money down the drain going with an Intel system.

 

Is there some special use case you have? Are nonstop using H264 CPU encoding or something?

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6 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

I wanna play on Intel 

Well, you really shouldn't - Intel's current products are inferior. For your budget, a Ryzen 7 3700X, Asus X570 TuF board and 16GB DDR4 is ideal

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3 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

I like Intel more 800 to 900 usd

That's a shame because AMD gives you core i9 levels of performance for less

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.48 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $42.94 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $706.35
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 12:37 EDT-0400  

 But if you must have Intel

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $369.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ B&H
Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $42.94 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $845.85
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 12:38 EDT-0400  

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

That's a shame because AMD gives you core i9 levels of performance for less

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.48 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $42.94 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $706.35
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 12:37 EDT-0400  

 But if you must have Intel

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $369.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ B&H
Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $42.94 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $845.85
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 12:38 EDT-0400  

 

This basically - the 3700X is both faster AND cheaper than a 9700K. Not to mention the 3700X runs cooler, uses less power, has better security in place and better user features

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

This basically - the 3700X is both faster AND cheaper than a 9700K. Not to mention the 3700X runs cooler, uses less power, has better security in place and better user features

Comes with its own very flashy CPU cooler as well

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Comes with its own very flashy CPU cooler as well

And unlike the 9700K, the 3700X runs cool and doesn't need custom coolers since the stock Wraith Prism is great

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26 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

That's a shame because AMD gives you core i9 levels of performance for less

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $294.48 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $42.94 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $706.35
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 12:37 EDT-0400  

 But if you must have Intel

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $369.99 @ Best Buy
CPU Cooler Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $48.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI Z390-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $129.99 @ B&H
Memory Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $69.98 @ Amazon
Storage Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $33.99 @ Newegg
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $42.94 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $845.85
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 12:38 EDT-0400  

 

I Got everything Only need mb ram and CPU and willing to pay 800 around that. So i go up in CPU? Or whst you Think?

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7 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

I Got everything Only need mb ram and CPU and willing to pay 800 around that. So i go up in CPU? Or whst you Think?

No point. The 3900X is overkill and the 9900K is a space heater which can barely outperform a 3700X. Get the 3700X and save money

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Why you need intel? At your budget ryzen 7 3700x is much better than intel can provide. 

 

ryzen comes with decent stock cooler too.

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Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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57 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

I Got everything Only need mb ram and CPU and willing to pay 800 around that. So i go up in CPU? Or whst you Think?

I don't know what parts you currently have so I don't know what's compatible or recommended.

 

Could you share a pcpartpicker list of what you're going to use?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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2 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

I don't know what parts you currently have so I don't know what's compatible or recommended.

 

Could you share a pcpartpicker list of what you're going to use?

I cant remember the name of the case but its 3 yesrs old Got 850psu 2 ssd evo 850 so just need to put in new mb CPU and ram and new m.2 on the new mb :) i was looking at the ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING mb but is it overkill?

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14 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

I cant remember the name of the case but its 3 yesrs old Got 850psu 2 ssd evo 850 so just need to put in new mb CPU and ram and new m.2 on the new mb :) i was looking at the ASUS ROG STRIX X470-F GAMING mb but is it overkill?

Overkill, not necessarily, but definitely overpriced. You could get the Asus prime X570-P for a pretty decent price and it overclocks even a 12 core comfortably. You get more features for your dollar and it's guaranteed compatible with third gen ryzen. A more premium motherboard would be the X570 TUf

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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18 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

Overkill, not necessarily, but definitely overpriced. You could get the Asus prime X570-P for a pretty decent price and it overclocks even a 12 core comfortably. You get more features for your dollar and it's guaranteed compatible with third gen ryzen. A more premium motherboard would be the X570 TUf

Sounds nice i Will look it up. What m.2 you Think i should buy? For Windows. Ther is so meny driffrent ones :(

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16 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

Sounds nice i Will look it up. What m.2 you Think i should buy? For Windows. Ther is so meny driffrent ones :(

Honestly, the experience for a gaming PC is identical on all but the worst SSDs possible. The cheapest M.2 SSD you can find would work nicely. I don't recall a mention for a need of hign bandwidth storage, but if you're editing large images and videos, you could take advantage of a faster drive.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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30 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Honestly, the experience for a gaming PC is identical on all but the worst SSDs possible. The cheapest M.2 SSD you can find would work nicely. I don't recall a mention for a need of hign bandwidth storage, but if you're editing large images and videos, you could take advantage of a faster drive.

Ok thx alot i like all the help i Can get

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On 4/12/2020 at 6:11 PM, Fasauceome said:

Honestly, the experience for a gaming PC is identical on all but the worst SSDs possible. The cheapest M.2 SSD you can find would work nicely. I don't recall a mention for a need of hign bandwidth storage, but if you're editing large images and videos, you could take advantage of a faster drive.

i found this setup on danish webside cus im from denmark its around 760 USD with my new RTX 2070 super would that be something powerfull enough to run bf5 and other fps games at high fps? i know i ask alot but its very hard to find the right parts when ther is SO meny of them on the market

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14 minutes ago, Bone36 said:

i found this setup on danish webside cus im from denmark its around 760 USD with my new RTX 2070 super would that be something powerfull enough to run bf5 and other fps games at high fps? i know i ask alot but its very hard to find the right parts when ther is SO meny of them on the market

It's a solid setup. However, idk what "bullguard" is, if it's antivirus you should just cut it from the budget. You could use free antivirus like Avast and Malwarebytes, or just browse carefully.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

It's a solid setup. However, idk what "bullguard" is, if it's antivirus you should just cut it from the budget. You could use free antivirus like Avast and Malwarebytes, or just browse carefully.

its antivirus but its something they give for free when you spend over 1k danish kroner so its for free. would this setup work for around 5 yeras`? like my old rig did?

 

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