Overclocking 3600x

[TheCT]

So I spent some time with my new processor gaming and all but I noticed it rarely hit its 4.4ghz boost. After running some tests and keeping monitoring programs up, I found out it was hitting 80-90 degrees before it throttled as low as 3600mhz. And of course with a decent oc it even hit tjmax and shut off on me(scared me to death). So why am I freaking out? I have a Corsair h80i v2 pulling from the front of my case and a 5700xt pumping a little heat has well. My question is, is my aio functioning properly? I even reseated it and all with new thermal paste a few times, and did a stable 4.2Ghz overclock at 1.35v but even then it will still hit 88 degrees after 5-10 minutes. Do I have bad airflow possibly? Bad pump in the aio? Or can the aio only dissipate so much heat? I’m on the verge of going back to air  

[GoldenLag]

8 minutes ago, TheCT said:

and did a stable 4.2Ghz ovwrclock at 1.35v but even then it will still hit 88 degrees after 5-10 minutes

That is degrading voltage. Drop to 1,325 or below. Or just run stock with PBO. Which is probably the best course of action. 

 

9 minutes ago, TheCT said:

I have a Corsair h80i v2 pulling from the front of my case

That is a small and pretty poor AIO. Worse or at best equal to small towercoolers. 

[TheCT]

8 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

That is degrading voltage. Drop to 1,325 or below. Or just run stock with PBO. Which is probably the best course of action. 

 

That is a small and pretty poor AIO. Worse or at best equal to small towercoolers. 

Well i did some cinebench tests and PBO was giving me scores in the 1500s while the 4.2ghz oc gave me 1667.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, TheCT said:

Well i did some cinebench tests and PBO was giving me scores in the 1500s while the 4.2ghz oc gave me 1667.

Multicore score isnt everything. 

 

And the voltage you used is considered to be unsustainable due to silicon degredation.

 

But considering the colling solution, your temps are still ok. 

[TheCT]

44 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Multicore score isnt everything. 

 

And the voltage you used is considered to be unsustainable due to silicon degredation.

 

But considering the colling solution, your temps are still ok. 

Probably going to get a hyper 212 and call it a day, just ideally want a decent oc with nice temps.

[GoldenLag]

20 minutes ago, TheCT said:

Probably going to get a hyper 212 and call it a day, just ideally want a decent oc with nice temps.

Which version of it?

 

Because some of them are a pain. And probably better of getting an arctic freezer 34 esports

[toasty99]

Yeah you definitely don't have something right. 

 

Maybe you used the Intel standoffs instead of AMD? It's a stupid mistake but easy to do and will drastically affect cooling. 

 

Also don't worry about 1.35 volts. "Degrading voltage" is not a fixed number. It'll be 5-10 years before anyone has an idea what is degrading voltage on a Ryzen 3000 chip for sure and it varies chip to chip. I'd be comfortable at 1.4 volts even but I'm never planning on keeping a system more than a few years. 

[Nightguest]

Not really related to your question, but I do want to point out that your voltage is potentially dangerous.

 

If you want the in depth version, please read this Reddit post.

 

If you want the short version:

Every chip is different, some may take 1.3V ok, others may be a lot lower.

This is important as even a small amount over the safe voltage can result in visible degradation after a few months.

 

To find your safe voltage:

Turn on PBO on in your BIOS max settings for PPT, TDC, EDC.

Fire up Prime95 and run a torture text with small FFTs

Monitor your voltage with HWInfo - specifically find CPU Core Voltage SVI2 TFN

(Ideally reset the logs just after you start Prime95)

Whatever your max CPU Core Voltage SVI2 TFN is (while running Prime95) that is your max safe CPU voltage (for 24/7 setting).

 

- Don't use Ryzen Master for this as you only want 1 sensor and 1 program running.

 

Stock mode is perfectly fine as the CPU voltage will go up and down like a madman, the test above to to show what the safe 24/7 voltage is).

 

That said the best thing is to ignore Ryzen 3000 overclocking and just use PBO + a slight voltage offset. I'm personally on an offset of (-) 0.1V

 

 

[TheCT]

1 hour ago, toasty99 said:

Yeah you definitely don't have something right. 

 

Maybe you used the Intel standoffs instead of AMD? It's a stupid mistake but easy to do and will drastically affect cooling. 

 

Also don't worry about 1.35 volts. "Degrading voltage" is not a fixed number. It'll be 5-10 years before anyone has an idea what is degrading voltage on a Ryzen 3000 chip for sure and it varies chip to chip. I'd be comfortable at 1.4 volts even but I'm never planning on keeping a system more than a few years. 

Will definitely take a look at the standoffs, thanks. 

[TheCT]

1 hour ago, Nightguest said:

Not really related to your question, but I do want to point out that your voltage is potentially dangerous.

 

If you want the in depth version, please read this Reddit post.

 

If you want the short version:

Every chip is different, some may take 1.3V ok, others may be a lot lower.

This is important as even a small amount over the safe voltage can result in visible degradation after a few months.

 

To find your safe voltage:

Turn on PBO on in your BIOS max settings for PPT, TDC, EDC.

Fire up Prime95 and run a torture text with small FFTs

Monitor your voltage with HWInfo - specifically find CPU Core Voltage SVI2 TFN

(Ideally reset the logs just after you start Prime95)

Whatever your max CPU Core Voltage SVI2 TFN is (while running Prime95) that is your max safe CPU voltage (for 24/7 setting).

 

- Don't use Ryzen Master for this as you only want 1 sensor and 1 program running.

 

Stock mode is perfectly fine as the CPU voltage will go up and down like a madman, the test above to to show what the safe 24/7 voltage is).

 

That said the best thing is to ignore Ryzen 3000 overclocking and just use PBO + a slight voltage offset. I'm personally on an offset of (-) 0.1V

 

 

I’ll definitely take that into consideration once I have the temps figured out. Thank you. 

[TheCT]

1 hour ago, GoldenLag said:

Which version of it?

 

Because some of them are a pain. And probably better of getting an arctic freezer 34 esports

Hyper 212 evo

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, TheCT said:

Hyper 212 evo

mounting is a pain, would look for others if you dont want to deal with that.