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I am planning to get a beginner DSLR for allround photo shooting, thats why I was wondering which one I should buy!

I want to spend around 300€, but can stretch to abour 400 if necessary.

 

I did some googling and watched some videos on beginner cameras, thats why I put the Nikon B600 as the cheapest and EOS 2000d as a slightly more expensive option.

 

Do you guys have any other recommendations?

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6 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

2000d

okay so I'd say the sl3/250d but that is closer to 500

where are you because often a used option is better than a new cheap one.

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7 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

okay so I'd say the sl3/250d but that is closer to 500

where are you because often a used option is better than a new cheap one.

I live in germany, good idea to buy used. Ill look into it as well!

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11 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

I live in germany, good idea to buy used. Ill look into it as well!

okay I don't know any of the good german used sites

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17 hours ago, Noah0302 said:

Do you guys have any other recommendations?

The best camera you can buy, in your budget range, is the one you are most comfortable holding in your hands.

If the ergonomics are all wrong for you, then you won't use the camera, regardless of how great it is.

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7 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

The best camera you can buy, in your budget range, is the one you are most comfortable holding in your hands.

If the ergonomics are all wrong for you, then you won't use the camera, regardless of how great it is.

what is with you and this line?

yeah ergonomics are important but for most especially at a low budget you don't have a bunch of options I wouldn't put it in 1st place.

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On 3/23/2020 at 2:14 AM, Noah0302 said:

I live in germany, good idea to buy used. Ill look into it as well!

I've heard good things about https://www.mpb.com/de-de, but haven't used them personally yet.

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9 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

I wouldn't put it in 1st place.

I would. It's bloody critical.

I used to shoot concerts, weekend-long thrash fests that went from sunup until practically sunup the next day.

Lugging around 20 pounds of camera gear sucked.

 

So I bought a mirrorless camera for my next shoot, an Olympus OM-D Em-1, with a battery grip.

Light as a feather, a joy to carry around.

 

And an ergonomic disaster. Waaaaaaay to small for my hands, with buttons in places guaranteeing painful contortions. By the end of the 1st day of shooting a concert, I'd given it away, my hands were in agony trying to use such a small device.

 

So yeah, ergonomics are bloody important.

Any modern dSLR these days, to a 1st time user, is like choosing between a Ferrari or Lamborghini, both can do way more than you have the skill for, so it comes down to which one is more comfortable for you.

 

Ergonomics. Don't undersell it.

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Thanks for all the replies!

 

I just pulled the trigger on a 2000d with a EF-S 18-55mm lens, since I have not really found good deals in the used market.

Got it new for 270€, I think that is a pretty good deal.

 

Once im confident Ill probably buy a better lens and see how far I can go with the camera :D

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2 hours ago, Noah0302 said:

Thanks for all the replies!

 

I just pulled the trigger on a 2000d with a EF-S 18-55mm lens, since I have not really found good deals in the used market.

Got it new for 270€, I think that is a pretty good deal.

 

Once im confident Ill probably buy a better lens and see how far I can go with the camera :D

I don't like the t7/2000D cus of no mic in but for photos only that is fine.

 the 75-300 III/III USM are often cheap used. Yongnuo YN 50mm is a super popular cheap 50mm

 

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19 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

I don't like the t7/2000D cus of no mic in but for photos only that is fine.

 the 75-300 III/III USM are often cheap used. Yongnuo YN 50mm is a super popular cheap 50mm

 

Agree, thats why I only plan on using it for photos :)

 

I just found out a relative has some old lensen in their basement, Ill see what I can do with them :D

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Corsair RM-850X + native 12VHPWR-Cable

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23 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

Agree, thats why I only plan on using it for photos :)

 

I just found out a relative has some old lensen in their basement, Ill see what I can do with them :D

matters what mount they are for. you may be in luck

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a Wii and PS2 as your only consoles.

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HP probook 445R G6 review

 

"Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid."

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