First time builder looking for some feedback

[Hisokaleb]

Budget - 1500-1600$ USD (slightly flexible)

It will be used for browsing, gaming, audio recording and editing, and I would also like to maybe try a little bit of streaming (just out of curiosity).

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hisokaleb/saved/2xXYgs

[TetraSky]

I'd ditch the x570 motherboard and get a B450 from MSI, either the Tomahawk or the Gaming Plus (available in both ATX and mATX format) and bios flashback them to support the new Zen2 CPUs. (No older CPU required)

 

You'd save a bit of money on that since there isn't much advantage to an x570 motherboard as is, other than compatibility right out of the box. (Flashing the bios takes like 5 minutes... it's not rocket science, just need a usb drive and basic reading skills to follow the instructions)

 

If you want to save some money on Windows... You can always get a cheap key from the grey market(ebay or some other sites) or if you have an old license for Windows 7 or 8, like on the back of a pre-built that you got a long time ago, you could try activating Windows 10 with it.

 

As for the PSU... I'm not sure if that one is good or not, someone else will likely chime in about that.

 

Overall, looks fine to me.

[VersuS]

I'd switch out the m.2 you intend to run the OS on for Corsair Force mp510; 3 times the speed for not much more.

[merco]

3 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

I'd ditch the x570 motherboard and get a B450 from MSI, either the Tomahawk or the Gaming Plus (available in both ATX and mATX format) and bios flashback them to support the new Zen2 CPUs. (No older CPU required)

If you're going that route you can opt for the MAX versions, they support zen 2 out of the box.

[Hisokaleb]

2 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

I'd ditch the x570 motherboard and get a B450 from MSI, either the Tomahawk or the Gaming Plus (available in both ATX and mATX format) and bios flashback them to support the new Zen2 CPUs. (No older CPU required)

 

You'd save a bit of money on that since there isn't much advantage to an x570 motherboard as is, other than compatibility right out of the box. (Flashing the bios takes like 5 minutes... it's not rocket science, just need a usb drive and basic reading skills to follow the instructions)

 

If you want to save some money on Windows... You can always get a cheap key from the grey market(ebay or some other sites) or if you have an old license for Windows 7 or 8, like on the back of a pre-built that you got a long time ago, you could try activating Windows 10 with it.

 

As for the PSU... I'm not sure if that one is good or not, someone else will likely chime in about that.

 

Overall, looks fine to me.

Awesome! Thanks for the input. I'll definitely be looking around for some cheaper windows 10. 

I've never flashed bios before so where do I get a USB that would have that on it? Like from a friend's computer or is it something to be purchased online?

[Hisokaleb]

2 minutes ago, VersuS said:

I'd switch out the m.2 you intend to run the OS on for Corsair Force mp510; 3 times the speed for not much more.

Thanks! I'll take a look at that

[TetraSky]

2 minutes ago, Hisokaleb said:

I've never flashed bios before so where do I get a USB that would have that on it? Like from a friend's computer or is it something to be purchased online?

A regular USB drive, you can get them from the dollar store, the BIOS can be obtained on MSI's website.

If you simply don't have another computer, you can indeed go to a friend's house.

Here's a video showing how easy it is:

 

 

[merco]

25 minutes ago, Hisokaleb said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hisokaleb/saved/2xXYgs

Since you are spending a lot on CPU and GPU I would also consider upgrading the RAM a little bit since the new ryzen processors benefit from fast clock speeds. The sweet spot for zen 2 seems to be 3600 cl 16.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

These would fit performance and about the same price, no RGB though

[TetraSky]

3 minutes ago, merco said:

Since you are spending a lot on CPU and GPU I would also consider upgrading the RAM a little bit since the new ryzen processors benefit from fast clock speeds. The sweet spot for zen 2 seems to be 3600 cl 16.

Here's the PCPartPicker page for CL16 RAM at DDR4-3600 speed.

[Hisokaleb]

24 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Here's the PCPartPicker page for CL16 RAM at DDR4-3600 speed.

Would you recommend doing an msi tomohawk b450 with the 3600 DDR4?

[TetraSky]

6 minutes ago, Hisokaleb said:

Would you recommend doing an msi tomohawk b450 with the 3600 DDR4?

I would, yes.

I'm also partial to the MSI B450M Gaming Plus, since that's the one I own and is cheap(which can let you choose a different case, a smaller case, for m-ATX motherboards, which are also cheaper), but as long as it has the bios flashback button, it matters not which one you choose, they are all equally good.

As for RAM... Yeah, 3600 is good. The one in your part list is fine, too. Just don't forget to enable XMP in the BIOS's overclocking settings, or else the RAM will run at something like 2133MHz instead of 3600. But for that, you can just come back here once you have everything and we will run you through it all if need be.

[Hisokaleb]

10 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

I would, yes.

I'm also partial to the MSI B450M Gaming Plus, since that's the one I own and is cheap(which can let you choose a different case, a smaller case, for m-ATX motherboards, which are also cheaper), but as long as it has the bios flashback button, it matters not which one you choose, they are all equally good.

As for RAM... Yeah, 3600 is good. The one in your part list is fine, too. Just don't forget to enable XMP in the BIOS's overclocking settings, or else the RAM will run at something like 2133MHz instead of 3600. But for that, you can just come back here once you have everything and we will run you through it all if need be.

And besides the ram upgrade is there anything else I should upgrade with the extra bit of money?

[merco]

https://www.msi.com/comparison/motherboard/?unique=id1584925572046&compare_list=["QjQ1MC1UT01BSEFXSy1NQVg=","QjQ1ME0tR0FNSU5HLVBMVVM="]

 

The gaming plus model supports up to 3466 mhz I'm not sure if a bios update would fix that? I would opt for the Tomahawk MAX it might be a bit more expensive but at around $115 I think it's a great board with a bit better features like better ports, more memory slots, pci slots and out of the box support for zen 2 so no bios update required. Up to you if you need those thing or not but yeah again, I'm not sure about the memory speed support on that board. On the MSI website at least it says 3466.

[Donut Dan]

1 hour ago, Hisokaleb said:

Awesome! Thanks for the input. I'll definitely be looking around for some cheaper windows 10. 

I've never flashed bios before so where do I get a USB that would have that on it? Like from a friend's computer or is it something to be purchased online?

Any of the MSI motherboards with MAX in the name will be able to run with 3rd gen Ryzen out of the box, for sure. They make MAX versions of the Tomahawk, Mortar, Gaming Plus, and a few others. Although, if you put it in pcpartpicker.com, it doesn't know that.

[Hisokaleb]

On 3/22/2020 at 5:52 PM, TetraSky said:

I would, yes.

I'm also partial to the MSI B450M Gaming Plus, since that's the one I own and is cheap(which can let you choose a different case, a smaller case, for m-ATX motherboards, which are also cheaper), but as long as it has the bios flashback button, it matters not which one you choose, they are all equally good.

As for RAM... Yeah, 3600 is good. The one in your part list is fine, too. Just don't forget to enable XMP in the BIOS's overclocking settings, or else the RAM will run at something like 2133MHz instead of 3600. But for that, you can just come back here once you have everything and we will run you through it all if need be.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$298.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$34.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$64.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	$489.99 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Newegg
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit	$119.04 @ HP
Wireless Network Adapter	Rosewill RNX-AC600PCEv3 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter	$22.00 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Corsair LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan	$39.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1573.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$1563.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-23 23:44 EDT-0400

 This is my revised part list if you wouldnt mind taking another look!

[seagate_surfer]

1 hour ago, Hisokaleb said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$298.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$34.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$99.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$64.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.98 @ Newegg
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	$489.99 @ Newegg
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Newegg
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit	$119.04 @ HP
Wireless Network Adapter	Rosewill RNX-AC600PCEv3 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter	$22.00 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Corsair LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan	$39.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1573.92
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$1563.92
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-23 23:44 EDT-0400

 This is my revised part list if you wouldnt mind taking another look!

Man it looks good! Well built.