Is this list ok?

[iuseapotato]

Hi, so ive been planning to get a pc for a while and I think ive finally got a list that I like. I have asked around and have got quite a few different opinions (mainly from the build a pc discord) so I figured the best thing to do is come to a forum where people can actually explain in detail what is wrong with the shitty build. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$478.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$119.00 @ PCCaseGear
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$185.00 @ PC Byte
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$129.00 @ Mwave Australia
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda 120 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$178.00 @ Mwave Australia
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	$799.00 @ Shopping Express
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$149.00 @ BudgetPC
Power Supply	Cougar GX-F 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$125.00 @ Scorptec
Case Fan	be quiet! Pure Wings 2 120 PWM 87 CFM 120 mm Fan	$15.00 @ Scorptec
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2177.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-20 09:20 AEDT+1100

 its being used for all different sorts of games and a lot of photo/video editing.

[Kenpachi1985]

Upgrade your Ram to DDR4 3600. The current Ryzen CPU's benefits from faster Ram - and 3600 speed is the sweetspot.

[iuseapotato]

2 minutes ago, Kenpachi1985 said:

Upgrade your Ram to DDR4 3600. The current Ryzen CPU's benefits from faster Ram - and 3600 speed is the sweetspot.

what DDR4 3600 would you recommend? 

[Guest]

Just now, iuseapotato said:

what DDR4 3600 would you recommend? 

The Ram you have already is fine. 

[iuseapotato]

so stick with the 3200?

 

[Kenpachi1985]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

The Ram you have already is fine. 

Spending almost 2.2k$ and then not getting the sweet spot memory speed seems off. So no, i don't think so.

I think  Patriot Viper RGB DDR4-3600 2x8 GB should be fine, as an example. If you go with a well known brand, you should be fine with any ddr4 3600 Ram.

[iuseapotato]

4 minutes ago, Kenpachi1985 said:

Spending almost 2.2k$ and then not getting the sweet spot memory speed seems off. So no, i don't think so.

I think  Patriot Viper RGB DDR4-3600 2x8 GB should be fine, as an example. If you go with a well known brand, you should be fine with any ddr4 3600 Ram.

can i find this without rgb?

 

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, iuseapotato said:

can i find this without rgb?

 

Do you need an 8 core cpu?  The nice thing about Ryzen is that the lower core ones perform damn near the same as the higher core ones for gaming.  Are you going to need 8/16 for all the things?

 

Cooler is a waste, use the stock one.  You won't OC to the point you need it.

 

That SSD is expensive, or are all SSD's just way overpriced there?

 

I second the 3600MHz RAM. Any major brand is fine, getting CL18 or so.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Kenpachi1985 said:

Spending almost 2.2k$ and then not getting the sweet spot memory speed seems off. So no, i don't think so.

I think  Patriot Viper RGB DDR4-3600 2x8 GB should be fine, as an example. If you go with a well known brand, you should be fine with any ddr4 3600 Ram.

What is this sweet spot you talk of ? You realise that there is more to Ram than frequency ? The cas latency is just as important. 

 

It is easy to overclock Ram with the Ryzen dram calc tool. 

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

[iuseapotato]

1 minute ago, jstudrawa said:

Do you need an 8 core cpu?  The nice thing about Ryzen is that the lower core ones perform damn near the same as the higher core ones for gaming.  Are you going to need 8/16 for all the things?

 

Cooler is a waste, use the stock one.  You won't OC to the point you need it.

 

That SSD is expensive, or are all SSD's just way overpriced there?

 

I second the 3600MHz RAM. Any major brand is fine, getting CL18 or so.

that ssd is considered cheap here lol

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, iuseapotato said:

that ssd is considered cheap here lol

Oh.  I was thinking a 1TB ssd is under $100 USD so that's $140-$145 AUD. 

 

Sorry man.

 

But you have Crocodile Dundee and we have Orange Man.  I'd pay higher SSD prices all day

 

[Kenpachi1985]

3 minutes ago, iuseapotato said:

can i find this without rgb?

 

If you want something without RGB i would go for Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600.

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

What is this sweet spot you talk of ? You realise that there is more to Ram than frequency ? The cas latency is just as important. 

 

It is easy to overclock Ram with the Ryzen dram calc tool. 

 

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

Sure you can squeeze more out of the Ram, but its not really necessary to get a 3200 kit and try to push it to 3600 when you can just buy 3600 out of the box and don't have to fiddle with it. Especially since there is no need to save a few bucks when you go up into the 2k+$ range.

[iuseapotato]

Just now, jstudrawa said:

Oh.  I was thinking a 1TB ssd is under $100 so that's $140-$145 AUD. 

 

Sorry man.

all good

[iuseapotato]

3 minutes ago, Kenpachi1985 said:

If you want something without RGB i would go for Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600.

Sure you can squeeze more out of the Ram, but its not really necessary to get a 3200 kit and try to push it to 3600 when you can just buy 3600 out of the box and don't have to fiddle with it. Especially since there is no need to save a few bucks when you go up into the 2k+$ range.

also seeing this is my first build so i dont wanna mess with much.

 

that was also my logic with the cooler, i might not need it but the only down side is the expense so...

[Guest]

Just now, Kenpachi1985 said:

If you want something without RGB i would go for Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600.

Sure you can squeeze more out of the Ram, but its not really necessary to get a 3200 kit and try to push it to 3600 when you can just buy 3600 out of the box and don't have to fiddle with it. Especially since there is no need to save a few bucks when you go up into the 2k+$ range.

Or you can just buy 3200MHz CL16 and be perfectly fine and keep the extra money in your wallet. If there was a huge fps difference then you would have a point, but there isn't.

 

 

[iuseapotato]

Just now, lee32uk said:

Or you can just buy 3200MHz CL16 and be perfectly fine and keep the extra money in your wallet. If there was a huge fps difference then you would have a point, but there isn't.

 

 

I do a lot of photo/video editing if ram is helpful with that 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, iuseapotato said:

also seeing this is my first build so i dont wanna mess with much.

Look at that Gamers Nexus link. There isn't a whole lot of difference between 3200 and 3600.

 

If you are happy to mess about with the Ryzen dram calc tool then this Crucial Ram is very good. Should easily do 3600 CL16.

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3BCD4D/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bls2k8g4d30aesbk

 

 

[iuseapotato]

11 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Look at that Gamers Nexus link. There isn't a whole lot of difference between 3200 and 3600.

 

If you are happy to mess about with the Ryzen dram calc tool then this Crucial Ram is very good. Should easily do 3600 CL16.

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/3BCD4D/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3000-memory-bls2k8g4d30aesbk

 

 

i think ill just stick to 3600 out of the box im not comfortable with messing around with components.

[iuseapotato]

is everything else on the list ok? like the mobo, gpu, case, and psu?

[Guest]

31 minutes ago, iuseapotato said:

i think ill just stick to 3600 out of the box im not comfortable with messing around with components.

Up to you.

 

These are both 3600MHz CL16. A bit more expensive though.

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

[Shrekpad]

Gskill Ripjaws V 3600MHz is a good kit without rgb.

[iuseapotato]

ive been told that the mobo may not be the greatest is this true?

 

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, iuseapotato said:

ive been told that the mobo may not be the greatest is this true?

 

False. It's one of the best B450 motherboards out there.

 

Stop listening to that person who told you that.

[iuseapotato]

5 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

False. It's one of the best B450 motherboards out there.

 

Stop listening to that person who told you that.

ok thank you

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, iuseapotato said:

ok thank you

Honestly, it's a great rig even if you don't need that CPU cooler.

 

Buy it, enjoy it, be happy.