New Build | Guidance Please

[arukaen]

Hi everyone! I'm in the market for a new gaming/work PC. My current machine is a little over 5 years old. My budget is about 3K and I already have all the peripherals I need(1080P monitor[plans to upgrade to 4k later this year], mouse, keyboard, etc). 90% of the time the computer will be used for gaming. I play all your standard triple A titles(CoD, CSGO, Witcher, etc). I'd like to be able to run the games on VERY HIGH(I want the build to last another 4-5 years). The other 10% of the time, I use Linux and do some coding and system administration tasks. Call me lazy but I'm really leaning towards one of those prebuilt machines from NZXT or any other prebuilt vendors. But I am not totally against building it myself again if I can get a good deal. A majority of my builds have always been Intel CPU(only AMD build was a 1090T) but no real preference for either. I welcome your own custom builds from PCpartpicker, NZXT, or any other prebuilt vendor. I'm just trying to explore some options.

This is the NZXT build I was looking at:

 

[Guest]

No reason to go Intel, especially if you are looking at 4K resolution. Better off going with an R7 3700X build imo. The fps difference at 4K is very small.

 

You won't need a 1000W psu. A good 650W would do fine. Check out the psu tier list for suggestions.

 

Also Samsung SSD's are usually overpriced compared to other good offerings like the Corsair MP510, Sabrent Rocket, Adata SX8200 Pro or HP EX 920/950 etc.

[Elisis]

The PSU you currently have in there has unacceptable levels of ripple at 110% load, and for that reason, it isn't worth the price it's currently going for. I would highly suggest switching it out.

 

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-1000-g5-power-supply,6337.html

[arukaen]

8 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

No reason to go Intel, especially if you are looking at 4K resolution. Better off going with an R7 3700X build imo. The fps difference at 4K is very small.

 

You won't need a 1000W psu. A good 650W would do fine. Check out the psu tier list for suggestions.

 

Also Samsung SSD's are usually overpriced compared to other good offerings like the Corsair MP510, Sabrent Rocket, Adata SX8200 Pro or HP EX 920/950 etc.

As I mentioned, I don't really have a preference on CPU. I would try one of the new Ryzen chips with no problem, I'm just not sure which. I don't really care about brand, I just want quality and something that will last, so Samsung, ADATA, or Corsair don't matter to me

[arukaen]

5 minutes ago, Elisis said:

The PSU you currently have in there has unacceptable levels of ripple at 110% load, and for that reason, it isn't worth the price it's currently going for. I would highly suggest switching it out.

 

Source: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-supernova-1000-g5-power-supply,6337.html

Thanks for that tip! Guess NZXT is willing to deal with RMAs if they happen.

[Elisis]

Also, that build seems very overpriced for the components you're getting. You're overpaying for most of the the essential ones.

[arukaen]

8 minutes ago, Elisis said:

Also, that build seems very overpriced for the components you're getting. You're overpaying for most of the the essential ones.

I put the parts in PC partpicker and they're basically on par. I am paying a premium for them building it for me as well as shipping. But then again this is why Im seeking some advice from the community. I want to see what other people suggest who have invested a lot more time than me into researching parts and such.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, arukaen said:

As I mentioned, I don't really have a preference on CPU. I would try one of the new Ryzen chips with no problem, I'm just not sure which. I don't really care about brand, I just want quality and something that will last, so Samsung, ADATA, or Corsair don't matter to me

A Ryzen R7 3700X and B450 Motherboard like the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX would be much cheaper. I doesn't look like NZXT offer Ryzen though, so you might have to look at a different retailer. 

 

The Samsung SSD's are good, but you can get the same performance for less. The HP EX920 1TB for example is $129.94 on pcpartpicker compared to $219.99 for the 1TB EVO.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/88bwrH/hp-ex920-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-2yy47aaabc

[Derrk]

beyond the nvme, i'd recommend adding another sata drive for mass storage, but you can add that on at any time in the future if you start running out of storage.

otherwise i pretty much agree with eveyone else here. you don't need a 1000w, and ryzen is a much better value than intel at the moment. at 1440p and especially 4k, gpu does most of the heavy lifting and cpus make less of difference in fps

[arukaen]

7 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

A Ryzen R7 3700X and B450 Motherboard like the MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX would be much cheaper. I doesn't look like NZXT offer Ryzen though, so you might have to look at a different retailer. 

 

The Samsung SSD's are good, but you can get the same performance for less. The HP EX920 1TB for example is $129.94 on pcpartpicker compared to $219.99 for the 1TB EVO.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/88bwrH/hp-ex920-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-2yy47aaabc

They do offer AMD CPUs but I'm not sure which motherboard is best that they offer.

[Guest]

25 minutes ago, arukaen said:

They do offer AMD CPUs but I'm not sure which motherboard is best that they offer.

Ah right couldn't see any AMD when I had a quick look. The MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX is a pretty decent board for the price. If you wanted X570 then I would look at the Asus X570 TUF or Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite.

[Elisis]

1 hour ago, arukaen said:

I put the parts in PC partpicker and they're basically on par.

But you're buying unnecessarily overkill parts. Things like the motherboard, RAM, PSU, SSD can all be changed to cheaper options, and the build will perform practically the same.

[arukaen]

Just now, Elisis said:

But you're buying unnecessarily overkill parts. Things like the motherboard, RAM, PSU, SSD can all be changed to cheaper options, and the build will perform practically the same.

Well thats why I'm asking the community for some guidance. Theres not a TON of options on the NZXT BLD site. You have about 5-6 items in each category (cpus, gpus, mobos, ram, etc..). If you have a free few minutes, I'd love to see your suggestion via their site (AMD or Intel).

[Elisis]

4 minutes ago, arukaen said:

Theres not a TON of options on the NZXT BLD site. You have about 5-6 items in each category (cpus, gpus, mobos, ram, etc..)

Being limited to BLD will hurt you a lot, but it's possible: https://www.letsbld.com/bld/step5?price=2500&draft=7173833625

Edited February 12, 2020 by Elisis
16GB -> 32GB of RAM

[arukaen]

2 minutes ago, Elisis said:

Being limited to BLD will hurt you a lot, but it's possible: https://www.letsbld.com/bld/step5?price=2500&draft=7173833625

I know with BLD I'm hurting myself but I really value the convenience of it. Just place an order, unbox and go. But if I see a build that has a much better value but I have to put it together then I'll just have to build it.