Liquid Cooling Ideas

[DeepFriedJif]

Hey everyone, I got my new case, Caselabs Magnum TH10, and I am trying to plan an appropriate loop for it and I was wondering if you guys could help me out!

 

(Please forgive the cable management, I am switching power supplies soon so I didn't put a lot of effort into redoing the cables when I moved cases)

 

(*disclaimer* I do not care about practicality, Aesthetics and performance are my 2, and only concerns *disclaimer*)

 

(if you right click the parts names it should let you open the link to it)

 

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My plan for radiators is to use 2x Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 480mm in the front chamber, and 2x Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 480 Radiator, each with 4 Noctua (NF-P12-1300 )1300rpm Premium Silent 120mm Fan - Sleeved fans. 

 

For blocks I will use all EK-Supremacy Clean - Nickel + Plexi blocks for the CPU, GPU, and Motherboard. (EKs ASRock x79 extreme 11 board is not out yet, so I will either get it when it releases or wait to do the loop).

 

Fittings will be bitspower Black Sparkle fittings.

 

Tubing, Masterkleer Tubing PVC 10/8mm (5/16"ID) Clear 3.3m (10ft), I will use Crystle link when needed

 

Pump and pump top will be 2 Swiftech MCP655™ Series 12 VDC Water Pumps - With Speed Control, and Bitspower BP-2D5TOPP-BK Dual D5 Mod Top (POM Version)

 

I will mount the pump top to the bottom front rad using UN mounts, and the res, the EK-Multioption RES X2 - 250 Basic, will be mounted to the pump top.

 

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If you have any suggestions of parts I should use instead, things/ mods I should do, or  fans I should use, or experience with these or other parts please do speak up! 

 

I am really bad at envisioning beforehand the way the loop should look, if there is anyone who could help me work through loop order and the way I should connect all the rads with the pumps it would also be much appreciated!

 

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Here are some rig pics as of right now, its doesn't look like much because the case is so massive(sorry for poor quality, I am below an amature when it comes to photography).

 

 

 

 

[Ghost]

You only need 1 D5 pump. People underestimate D5s.

[DeepFriedJif]

I am sure that is probably the case, but I like  aesthetics of the dual pumps and the performance can't go down form having it. Plus between the 4 monster rads and the size of the case and loop, theres a lot of distance even if it is a strong pump. To be honest the only reason other than I want to, is it will at least keep my rig running should one fail, although I may be wrong about that, I could be just as screwed, but I have never heard of failing issues with these pumps.

[Ghost]

I am sure that is probably the case, but I like  aesthetics of the dual pumps and the performance can't go down form having it. Plus between the 4 monster rads and the size of the case and loop, theres a lot of distance even if it is a strong pump. To be honest the only reason other than I want to, is it will at least keep my rig running should one fail, although I may be wrong about that, I could be just as screwed, but I have never heard of failing issues with these pumps.

It called redundancy, you are right. An issue from running dual pumps is noise. (I have not experienced this personally but Martin from Martins Liquid Lab saw this was the case.)

 

The reason why its pointless is the water goes around so fast it doesn't matter if you increase its speed. It just goes through he block too fast to pick up more heat. You may gain 1-2C from dual pumps.

[DeepFriedJif]

I'll consider doing single pump, see how it looks, It would save me a good bit of coin.

[Ghost]

I'll consider doing single pump, see how it looks, It would save me a good bit of coin.

Good idea. :)

 

Another good way to save money is to only use two of those 480 rads. 4*480 rads are too much, they just add restriction to your loop.

[DeepFriedJif]

I know 4*480 is overkill, and with the thick ones I have chosen overkill is an understatement, but the rad config is something I have made my mind up about, unless someone can show me rads that perform better, this is the way I want to do the rads.

[airdeano]

hey DFJ!,

 

it'll take hours to heat-soak 4x 480 radiators.. a simple 30min stability test now takes

1.5hrs on a 2x 480 and 1x 360.. temps begin to stabilize @ 18° ambient. @ 26° ambient

I can get a stabilized temperature just a bit over an hour.

im using SP120PE (7v)

 

 

airdeano

[DeepFriedJif]

I will be building it over the summer, so time is no issue; besides I really do enjoy time tweaking and squeezing performance out of the hardware so I would spend that much time if not more, anyway.

[Whaler_99]

Looks like quite the monster build. :)   As mentioned before, those 480's are great - and yes, 4 of them is overkill. Going with either the UT60's or the Monsta's would be enough. And as you said - 4 of them is some serious coin, not to mention extra fittings, etc. And I have a hard time really figuring out where you would put 4 of them in that case that wouldn't just be a bit messy. Looking at some of the pics on the site, you could put a top and bottom mounted monsta in that area behind the mobo tray. AND - chuck those NF-P12 - get the NF-F12'sm a lot better static pressure rating - and go push/pull on the two Monsta. If you check Martin's, his test shows the 80mm rad is one of the few that actually benefit from the push/pull config.

 

I think that may be a much nicer and cleaner setup. 

[Andi]

For Monsta Rads i would go with push/pull.

[DeepFriedJif]

Looks like quite the monster build. :)   As mentioned before, those 480's are great - and yes, 4 of them is overkill. Going with either the UT60's or the Monsta's would be enough. And as you said - 4 of them is some serious coin, not to mention extra fittings, etc. And I have a hard time really figuring out where you would put 4 of them in that case that wouldn't just be a bit messy. Looking at some of the pics on the site, you could put a top and bottom mounted monsta in that area behind the mobo tray. AND - chuck those NF-P12 - get the NF-F12'sm a lot better static pressure rating - and go push/pull on the two Monsta. If you check Martin's, his test shows the 80mm rad is one of the few that actually benefit from the push/pull config.

 

I think that may be a much nicer and cleaner setup. 

Thats exactly how and where I planned to implement the Monsta rads, and thank you because that backs up something I considered,  which was to get the NF-F12s vs the P12s!