upgrade Do I need a new CPU?

[Neutronic01]

On my PC I have a i5 7400 processor with a RX 580. I'm deciding if I should sell the 580 and get a 2060S or sell the i5 and get a new CPU. Would I need a new CPU or go for a GPU upgrade and how long would the i5 last for specs in gaming?

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, Neutronic01 said:

Would I need a new CPU or go for a GPU upgrade and how long would the i5 last for specs in gaming?

Depends entirely on your games and performance target. My brother needed an upgrade last year from his 7400, and he was only using a GTX 970 (RX 570 levels)

[Torchmanz]

I would go with the 2060s. I don't think you'll see as much of a boost on games if you up the cpu. 

 

I have an older Ryzen 7 1700x and recently upgraded from a 1050ti to a 2070s and it was world's different. Felt like a completely different rig. 

[Mister Woof]

12 minutes ago, Torchmanz said:

I would go with the 2060s. I don't think you'll see as much of a boost on games if you up the cpu. 

 

I have an older Ryzen 7 1700x and recently upgraded from a 1050ti to a 2070s and it was world's different. Felt like a completely different rig. 

The 580 is considerably stronger than the 1050 ti

 

And the 1700x has twice as many cores and SMT....in modern game that will be more helpful than a GPU upgrade on a locked 7400.

 

OP, I'd upgrade the CPU to something modern; you can hold out on that RX 580 fora little while.

 

Anew GPU now might improve maximum FPS but a new CPU now will improve your gameplay experience.

 

[NoGanksEric]

13 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

The 580 is considerably stronger than the 1050 ti

 

And the 1700x has twice as many cores and SMT....in modern game that will be more helpful than a GPU upgrade on a locked 7400.

 

OP, I'd upgrade the CPU to something modern; you can hold out on that RX 580 fora little while.

 

Anew GPU now might improve maximum FPS but a new CPU now will improve your gameplay experience.

 

Well the 9400f is paired with a 2060 in many oem PC's and laptops so I'd assume they work together we'll. 

 

And the 7400 is basically as good tbh. Maybe you're lacking behind 3 fps or so but Intel's cpus have basically just been refreshes for 3 generations so not much improvement there. 

 

I'd say it's fine. 

[Mister Woof]

7 minutes ago, NoGanksEric said:

Well the 9400f is paired with a 2060 in many oem PC's and laptops so I'd assume they work together we'll. 

 

And the 7400 is basically as good tbh. Maybe you're lacking behind 3 fps or so but Intel's cpus have basically just been refreshes for 3 generations so not much improvement there. 

 

I'd say it's fine. 

The 7400 is far behind a 9400, which has it best by 50% resources.

 

Multiple tests prove that 4/4 is pretty much an unpleasant experience not because of maximum fps but the stuttering you will get from newer games. 0.1% lows and frametimes are considerably worse of 4/4 CPUs which make them essentially obsolete in the gaming world. Especially if you are considering pairing it with a 2070.

 

Now, something like a 7600k or 8350k can SOMEWHAT alleviate the thread deficiency with overclocking, but again, tests show time and again that's already at its limit

 

I'd say it's fine with a 580.. But pairing with a 2070 seems like an imbalanced combination.

[NoGanksEric]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

The 7400 is far behind a 9400, which has it best by 50% resources.

 

Multiple tests prove that 4/4 is pretty much an unpleasant experience not because of maximum fps but the stuttering you will get from newer games. 0.1% lows and frametimes are considerably worse of 4/4 CPUs which make them essentially obsolete in the gaming world. Especially if you are considering pairing it with a 2070.

 

Now, something like a 7600k or 8350k can SOMEWHAT alleviate the thread deficiency with overclocking, but again, tests show time and again that's already at its limit

 

I'd say it's fine with a 580.. But pairing with a 2070 seems like an imbalanced combination.

But games don't really use more than 4 threads. And in those games it's pretty much the same 

 

 

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, NoGanksEric said:

But games don't really use more than 4 threads. And in those games it's pretty much the same 

 

Keep in mind the 7400 is worse in every way compared to the 6600k / 7600k, and the results for that CPU will be worse.

 

And the 1600 itself is hugely surpassed by basically everything 3000 now.

 

[NoGanksEric]

 

5 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Keep in mind the 7400 is worse in every way compared to the 7600k, and the results for that CPU will be worse.

 

And the 1600 itself is hugely surpassed by basically everything 3000 now.

 

Ofcourse they're better. But if you want to make that argument you could say he needs a 9900k for the best results. 

The 7400k is fine with a 2060super. Not optimal and there won't be zero bottleneck situations. But that's not the case. Ofcourse playing Anno or city skylines on that chip will probably suck. But those are games that even suck the life out of 6 core cpus. 

 

And most games will run just fine with the 7400k and won't make trouble. 

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, NoGanksEric said:

 

Ofcourse they're better. But if you want to make that argument you could say he needs a 9900k for the best results. 

The 7400k is fine with a 2060super. Not optimal and there won't be zero bottleneck situations. But that's not the case. Ofcourse playing Anno or city skylines on that chip will probably suck. But most games will run just fine and won't make trouble. 

I'm saying the 7400 is almost already maxed out with the 580. Adding a 2070 doesn't make sense as in most new games the gpu will be underutilized thereby being a waste.

 

Adding a faster CPU to a 580 at least will improve stuttering, if not max fps.

 

 

 

 

[NoGanksEric]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

I'm saying the 7400 is almost already maxed out with the 580. Adding a 2070 doesn't make sense as in most new games the gpu will be underutilized thereby being a waste.

 

Adding a faster CPU to a 580 at least will improve stuttering, if not max fps.

 

 

 

 

It's not at all maxed out with an rx580. 

Like i said in games that don't heavily rely on more than 4 threads it's the same as the 9400f. 

 

And games that really need more than 4 threads are rare. Even today 

[NoGanksEric]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I'm saying the 7400 is almost already maxed out with the 580. Adding a 2070 doesn't make sense as in most new games the gpu will be underutilized thereby being a waste.

 

Adding a faster CPU to a 580 at least will improve stuttering, if not max fps.

 

 

 

 

Also he wants a 2060S not a 2070 ^^

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, NoGanksEric said:

Also he wants a 2060S not a 2070 ^^

Same performance same price tbh