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RAM Socket replacment (ddr4)

D3sm0nd
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Hi,
I can buy x570 for 70€ but first two ram slots are not working (mbo is working but in single channel)

I was doing some research and i think that is fixable (If the ram is the issue not cpu pins)
I am planning to buy this https://bit.ly/2TlkN4h 
What do you think about that could that work?
Thank you guys!

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If you are capable of fixing it (which means soldering and finding a replacement) you won't be asking this question, so do not buy it unless you want to prove me right.

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I am just want to be sure that is possbile and that will work. Better safe than sorry ;) 

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

If you are capable of fixing it (which means soldering and finding a replacement) you won't be asking this question, so do not buy it unless you want to prove me right.

 

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Agree with Jurrunio, it’s a lot of work and not easiest one so if you don’t have a lot of experience in soldering I wouldn’t bother tbh.

   @Whiro tag or quote will do the trick 

 

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Just now, D3sm0nd said:

I am just want to be sure that is possbile and that will work. Better safe than sorry ;) 

 

It may work or it may not , you can’t be 100% the problem is actual socket not the traces 

   @Whiro tag or quote will do the trick 

 

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if would be very difficult to desolder, because the motherboard has multiple layers and that area has big copper planes absorbing heat.

You would need an infrared heating plate / device to heat the whole area up to 70-90 degrees Celsius, then you'd need a good soldering iron and ideally some automated desoldering pump to suck the solder from each lead. It could work without preheating the board but really hard.

 

It's not an easy job.

 

edit: also no guarantee the slots are actually the issue... could be bad socket (ex. some contacts in socket not soldered well)

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1 minute ago, Whiro said:

It may work or it may not , you can’t be 100% the problem is actual socket not the traces 

Agreed. I asked the guy how problem did occurred. 
And soldering seems easy. All I have to do is remove solder and socket will pop off. Put a new one in and solder again and everything can be done with regular soldering iron. 

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2 minutes ago, mariushm said:

if would be very difficult to desolder, because the motherboard has multiple layers and that area has big copper planes absorbing heat.

You would need an infrared heating plate / device to heat the whole area up to 70-90 degrees Celsius, then you'd need a good soldering iron and ideally some automated desoldering pump to suck the solder from each lead. It could work without preheating the board but really hard.

 

It's not an easy job.

That is the answer on my quesiton. Thanks. There are few youtube videos about that but on older mbo. I was like that seems bit 2 easy. Thank you!

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It seems easy but it's not. The holes are really tight, small diameter, and the board is thicker so there's quite a bit of solder on the walls between the leads and the holes which is hard to extract with regular solder pump or wick - it tends to stick.

Preheating helps and you can flood with leaded solder to reduce melting temperature and it does help to use an automated desoldering pump because you can suck solder while wiggling the leads so they unstick from the walls

Another technique is the one in the video below where they pull the plastic housing so the individual leads would fall by themselves due to gravity (or you can help them with a stainless steel needle as solder doesn't stick to stainless steel)

You steel need good soldering iron and good liquid / paste flux

 

 

1 minute ago, D3sm0nd said:

Agreed. I asked the guy how problem did occurred. 
And soldering seems easy. All I have to do is remove solder and socket will pop off. Put a new one in and solder again and everything can be done with regular soldering iron. 

 

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2 hours ago, D3sm0nd said:

Agreed. I asked the guy how problem did occurred. 
And soldering seems easy. All I have to do is remove solder and socket will pop off. Put a new one in and solder again and everything can be done with regular soldering iron. 

Do you have any experience in soldering?? If not I wouldn’t recommend doing it. 

   @Whiro tag or quote will do the trick 

 

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7 hours ago, D3sm0nd said:

Agreed. I asked the guy how problem did occurred. 
And soldering seems easy. All I have to do is remove solder and socket will pop off. Put a new one in and solder again and everything can be done with regular soldering iron. 

Not "Quite" that easy I'm afraid.

Each and every pin has it's own solder connection and it's done in the same basic way we've all heard about PS3 console chips being removed and resoldered.

 

It does take much more than a simple soldering pen/iron to do the job.

I have one of those infrared soldering/desoldering stations and it's more work to get right than you'd think. If the work is off by any amount across the entire socket there is a good chance it won't work becaues the tolerance is so small, everything has to be "Spot On" or else. If it was easy to do with a pen or iron that's how many if not most would be doing it but everyone I know of or about uses at least a basic infrared setup like I have for such work.

 

Still want to do it yourself?

Then it's your call and stuff but you have been advised beforehand to let someone else with the right equip and experience to do it.

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6 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

Not "Quite" that easy I'm afraid.

Each and every pin has it's own solder connection and it's done in the same basic way we've all heard about PS3 console chips being removed and resoldered.

 

It does take much more than a simple soldering pen/iron to do the job.

I have one of those infrared soldering/desoldering stations and it's more work to get right than you'd think. If the work is off by any amount across the entire socket there is a good chance it won't work becaues the tolerance is so small, everything has to be "Spot On" or else. If it was easy to do with a pen or iron that's how many if not most would be doing it but everyone I know of or about uses at least a basic infrared setup like I have for such work.

 

Still want to do it yourself?

Then it's your call and stuff but you have been advised beforehand to let someone else with the right equip and experience to do it.

Agreed with you. Thank you for the replay :D 

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Try using some electrical contact cleaner to spray it out if it's there.

If not, do what you gotta do.

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