PC Upgrade Advice

[ColonelOne]

Hello and happy new year!

 

I'm looking to upgrade my good ol' everyday PC into more of a true gaming rig and want to figure out what I can keep and what should be upgraded.

 

My goal is to be able to max out any game at 120+ FPS on a 1440p monitor (any recommendations on new monitor?).

 

Current build:

 

CPU - AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 8-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM3+ 125W FD8150FRGUBOX
CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
MOBO - ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
GPU - XFX Double D Radeon HD 6950 HD-695X-CDFC 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5
PSU - Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply (CMPSU-850HX)
SSD - 2x Crucial M4 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal SSD (CT128M4SSD2)
HDD - 1x Western Digital Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Case - Azza HURRICAN 2000 Full Tower

 

Budget is flexible, if I can get the performance I want by just getting a 2080 TI and 32 GB of DDR3 1866 then awesome, if I need to upgrade to something like Threadripper and a new Motherboard then slightly less awesome, but yay M.2?

 

As far as actual numbers, budget is $3k ish.

 

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

[3 Lions]

A 2080Ti would be heavily bottlenecked by your current CPU, personally I'd upgrade to a new platform (CPU, Motherboard & RAM). 

[Statik]

Ok.

1. Don't get threadripper for gaming. At all.

 

2. Certain games you'll never be able get 120fps 1440p. I guarantee that.

 

3.  If you use a 2080Ti and DDR3 you should be shot in public.

 

4. You could only salvage maybe your hard drives, everything else is junk.

 

5. We need an actual fucking budget.

 

EDIT: I just realized you suggested getting a 8150 and 2080Ti. Please google PC Bottleneck and come back to us after some reasearch

[ColonelOne]

9 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

A 2080Ti would be heavily bottlenecked by your current CPU, personally I'd upgrade to a new platform (CPU, Motherboard & RAM). 

That was more of just a for instance, budget is really anything less than $3k ish

7 minutes ago, Statik said:

Ok.

1. Don't get threadripper for gaming. At all.

 

2. Certain games you'll never be able get 120fps 1440p. I guarantee that.

 

3.  If you use a 2080Ti and DDR3 you should be shot in public.

 

4. You could only salvage maybe your hard drives, everything else is junk.

 

5. We need an actual fucking budget.

 

EDIT: I just realized you suggested getting a 8150 and 2080Ti. Please google PC Bottleneck and come back to us after some reasearch

Not gonna lie, #3 made me lol, might be my new favorite comment.

As for #4, does that include the PSU? 850W should be enough for modern hardware, no?

[Statik]

1 hour ago, ColonelOne said:

That was more of just a for instance, budget is really anything less than $3k ish

Not gonna lie, #3 made me lol, might be my new favorite comment.

As for #4, does that include the PSU? 850W should be enough for modern hardware, no?

Is it platinum certified? How old is it? Is 3k including your monitor? and are you USD?

[Statik]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$322.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler	Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$159.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard	$303.98 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$84.99 @ Newegg
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$148.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.32 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card	$1259.99 @ B&H
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	Corsair LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans	$92.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2648.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-02 16:05 EST-0500

 

This is a pretty beastly rig for the price, and leaves you some money for a monitor too.

 

You could also easily drop to a regular 2080S, not see much difference in performance, and get a better monitor, i.e. UWQHD

[ColonelOne]

28 minutes ago, Statik said:

Is it platinum certified? How old is it? Is 3k including your monitor? and are you USD?

Ah good point, no it's silver and probably a good 7 years old.

$3k USD, not including monitor, as it may eventually end up getting connected to my 4k projector (but maybe not)

21 minutes ago, Statik said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$322.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler	Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$159.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard	$303.98 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$84.99 @ Newegg
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$148.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$44.32 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card	$1259.99 @ B&H
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	Corsair LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans	$92.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2648.21
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-02 16:05 EST-0500

 

This is a pretty beastly rig for the price, and leaves you some money for a monitor too.

 

You could also easily drop to a regular 2080S, not see much difference in performance, and get a better monitor, i.e. UWQHD

Asides from price, any reason to go for Ryzen 7 over an i9-10980XE? The 10980 seems pretty insane for $1k. Ignore that, meant the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X.

Are modern games not able to take full advantage of the extra cores?

[Statik]

2 hours ago, ColonelOne said:

Ah good point, no it's silver and probably a good 7 years old.

$3k USD, not including monitor, as it may eventually end up getting connected to my 4k projector (but maybe not)

Asides from price, any reason to go for Ryzen 7 over an i9-10980XE? The 10980 seems pretty insane for $1k. Ignore that, meant the AMD Ryzen 9 3950X.

Are modern games not able to take full advantage of the extra cores?

You won't utilize it. It's mainly for workstations and high core/threadcount workload. No game out there will use 32 threads.

[ColonelOne]

9 minutes ago, Statik said:

You won't utilize it. It's mainly for workstations and high core/threadcount workload. No game out there will use 32 threads.

Makes sense, I don't do a huge amount of stuff that saturates my CPU right now (except opening Google Chrome XD)

 

Seems like a waste at first to go from an 8 core 3.6 GHz CPU to another 8 core 3.6 GHz CPU, but max supported memory and memory speeds are roughly 3-4 fucktons more than they used to be.

 

Does the Ryzen need to be water cooled? Will it run much hotter than the FX-8150 CPU I'm using now?

[Statik]

1 hour ago, ColonelOne said:

Makes sense, I don't do a huge amount of stuff that saturates my CPU right now (except opening Google Chrome XD)

 

Seems like a waste at first to go from an 8 core 3.6 GHz CPU to another 8 core 3.6 GHz CPU, but max supported memory and memory speeds are roughly 3-4 fucktons more than they used to be.

 

Does the Ryzen need to be water cooled? Will it run much hotter than the FX-8150 CPU I'm using now?

You can't even remotely compare the 8150 and 3700x since they're both 3.6GHz 8-Core. That's like comparing the performance of a Lamborghini Tractor 100 years ago to a Lamborghini now, since they're both Lamborghini's.

 

If depends if you plan to OC. If you don't the included wraith cooler will be fine. But you can always use an AIO/air cooler for OCing or whathaveyou.

[ColonelOne]

4 hours ago, Statik said:

If depends if you plan to OC. If you don't the included wraith cooler will be fine. But you can always use an AIO/air cooler for OCing or whathaveyou.

Ok awesome, that's what I was thinking. Thanks!

[Fraya]

9 hours ago, ColonelOne said:

Hello and happy new year!

 

I'm looking to upgrade my good ol' everyday PC into more of a true gaming rig and want to figure out what I can keep and what should be upgraded.

 

My goal is to be able to max out any game at 120+ FPS on a 1440p monitor (any recommendations on new monitor?).

 

Current build:

 

CPU - AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 8-Core 3.6 GHz Socket AM3+ 125W FD8150FRGUBOX
CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
MOBO - ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
GPU - XFX Double D Radeon HD 6950 HD-695X-CDFC 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5
PSU - Corsair HX Professional Series 850-Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply (CMPSU-850HX)
SSD - 2x Crucial M4 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal SSD (CT128M4SSD2)
HDD - 1x Western Digital Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
Case - Azza HURRICAN 2000 Full Tower

 

Budget is flexible, if I can get the performance I want by just getting a 2080 TI and 32 GB of DDR3 1866 then awesome, if I need to upgrade to something like Threadripper and a new Motherboard then slightly less awesome, but yay M.2?

 

As far as actual numbers, budget is $3k ish.

 

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Sorry to say, but a complete new rig would be needed to make it worth doing. the technology and speeds since your last build is so much different now. 

not worth upgrading because you can't put DDR4 ram into a DDR3 system. 

$3000 budget will give you something decent, do you need monitor as well? 

and is it USD or CAN dollars? 

[boggy77]

Tweaked it a bit for slightly better/cheaper parts

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$322.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$69.98 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$179.99 @ Amazon
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$148.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Seagate SkyHawk Surveillance 3 TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive	$69.98 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$1199.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$118.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan	Corsair LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans	$92.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2502.88
	Mail-in rebates	-$50.00
	Total	$2452.88
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 01:55 EST-0500

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($322.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($188.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($53.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: PNY XLR8 CS3030 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($63.99 @ B&H) you can add in the storage drives you have now.
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Dual OC Video Card  ($1029.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Best Buy) 
Power Supply: Phanteks AMP 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1909.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 07:22 EST-0500

[ColonelOne]

I'm thinking that I may end up going with this initially, may add more memory, another M.2, and water cooling eventually.

Will probably end up reusing the existing case for sentimentality reasons (and because I think it looks sick) as well as the old SSDs and HDD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor	$373.43 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$34.49 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 ACE ATX AM4 Motherboard	$339.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$179.99 @ Amazon
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$148.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card	$1279.00 @ B&H
Case	Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2485.88
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 11:04 EST-0500

 

Thoughts?

[Herman Mcpootis]

30 minutes ago, ColonelOne said:

I'm thinking that I may end up going with this initially, may add more memory, another M.2, and water cooling eventually.

Will probably end up reusing the existing case for sentimentality reasons (and because I think it looks sick) as well as the old SSDs and HDD.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor	$373.43 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$34.49 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MEG X570 ACE ATX AM4 Motherboard	$339.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$179.99 @ Amazon
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$148.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card	$1279.00 @ B&H
Case	Azza Hurrican 2000R ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2485.88
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 11:04 EST-0500

Thoughts?

you don't need the ace/unify for a 3700x or a 3800x. even a good B450 board is enough.

32gb of ram for a gaming PC is overkill.

i'm assuming you're also reusing your 212 plus. otherwise don't waste your time with a 212 evo new.

the 3700x is the same as the 3800x minus a slightly lower clock speed.

the PNY CS3030 and silicon power A80 are both just as fast for less.

850w is overkill unless you're planning on getting another 2080ti for SLI.

[ColonelOne]

5 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the 3700x is the same as the 3800x minus a slightly lower clock speed.

True, but I can live with $40 for a higher clock and more overclocking room.

 

5 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

32gb of ram for a gaming PC is overkill.

It's not going to be purely a gaming PC if that helps matters, I'm also going to be using it for work and some video/photo editing and CAD, too.

Also, overkill is underrated

 

5 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

i'm assuming you're also reusing your 212 plus. otherwise don't waste your time with a 212 evo new.

Wait, will the old 212+ still fit?? I figured going from an AM3+ to an AM4 socket would make it so the old cooler wouldn't fit anymore.

 

5 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

850w is overkill unless you're planning on getting another 2080ti for SLI.

A second 2080ti isn't out of the question once 8K projectors come down in price a bit.

[Herman Mcpootis]

8 hours ago, ColonelOne said:

True, but I can live with $40 for a higher clock and more overclocking room.

you can just as easily dial in that overclock yourself and save the money, or just enable PBO.

8 hours ago, ColonelOne said:

Wait, will the old 212+ still fit?? I figured going from an AM3+ to an AM4 socket would make it so the old cooler wouldn't fit anymore.

you can get am4 mounts from coolermaster but the wraith prism that's included is just as good as the 212.

 

 

[ColonelOne]

21 hours ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

you can just as easily dial in that overclock yourself and save the money, or just enable PBO.

Was just over at Best Buy looking at monitors and managed to pick up a 3800x for $339 (they had at listed at the wrong price, lucky me!!)

 

I ended up grabbing a couple Dell S2716DGR monitors which I may end up returning, but they seem halfway decent. I'll end up looking for a bigger monitor to go between them, any recommendations?