Win 10 Fresh install Lag

[Neko_UwU]

Just built this system a few days ago, And it has been suffering from all types of lag.

Setup - https://pcpartpicker.com/user/gamer1000percent/saved/4tXCLk

1.) Every time i move the mouse, It lags/teleports everywhere.

2.) Every time i play audio, It sounds like it's coming from a "audio problems" meme video.

3.)It won't do a clean restart/shutdown, I wait and wait and wait, untill i have to force shutdown.

 

I LITERALLY just gave it a fresh install of win 10, and it's doing this, So it must be hardware related right?

 

[Before the current install, i had it working for a little bit, as i could play games and all that, however if i was watching a movie it would randomly audio glitchout, and i'd have to restart]

 

Side notes:

1.) All drivers/win updates are up to date. (including the motherboard Bios, etc

2.) i know the GPU is working, it's been in my last system a while.

3.) The ram in the PPP list is 2400, not 26 like it says. I have better ram on the way, but i don't think that's the problem?

4.) The HDD and the SSD aren't plugged in right now, so i know it's not them.

I've noticed that sometimes when i restart, it's not laggy for a bit, Then when it gets laggy, it has the restart/shutdown problem, but if it's not laggy, it restarts/shutdowns fine.

[Srijan Verma]

For a system that expensive you have too little RAM

 

Check if your boot drive is the ssd and not the hdds
Is your cpu oc ? If yes restore it.
same for the gpu
It is highly possible that windows got curropt during install so try installing again, if nothing works then you will have to move on to individual component test if any component is faulty(could be the ram)

[Mark Kaine]

You have 1x 8 GB cheap slow RAM™?

 

Is not even worth trouble shooting before you fix that tbh. 

 

Spoiler

And hopefully doesn't need any trouble shooting then anymore 

 

[Neko_UwU]

15 hours ago, Srijan Verma said:

For a system that expensive you have too little RAM

 

Check if your boot drive is the ssd and not the hdds
Is your cpu oc ? If yes restore it.
same for the gpu
It is highly possible that windows got curropt during install so try installing again, if nothing works then you will have to move on to individual component test if any component is faulty(could be the ram)

The only drive Connected was the boot m.2 when the problem occurrs

My gpu and cpu are not overclocked.

I've tried about 3-4 times of a fresh win install, all doing different things, and nothing fix's it.

 

 

14 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

You have 1x 8 GB cheap slow RAM™?

 

Is not even worth trouble shooting before you fix that tbh. 

 

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And hopefully doesn't need any trouble shooting then anymore 

 

My better ram will be here in a few days, but will ram that isn't super fast, really cause this problem?

This MB says it can take 1866 or whatever, so i'm not even as slow as it takes...

and why is my problem only happening "sometimes", Like i can play ram demanding games sometimes with no problems, But if i try to watch a movie, Bam, it starts freaking out.

The ram will be here in 4 days, and it's this - https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861/

[Neko_UwU]

Gonna try "windows memory diagnostic" in a minute, though if it's just the speed/size of the ram, doubt it will find anything.

[Mark Kaine]

41 minutes ago, Neko_UwU said:

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Irrelevant because Ryzen need 8GB 3000 RAM in *dual channel*

 

 

It's completely useless trouble shooting before you have the absolutely minimum required parts therefore, as I already said. 

 

Will it run with slow ass single channel RAM? Yes. 

 

Will you run into random performance issues with slow ass single channel RAM? Most likely. 

 

 

Hope this helps. 

[Neko_UwU]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Irrelevant because Ryzen need 8GB 3200RAM in *dual channel*

 

 

It's completely useless trouble shooting before you have the absolutely minimum required parts therefore, as I already said. 

 

Will it run with slow ass single channel RAM? Yes. 

 

Will you run into random performance issues with slow ass single channel RAM? Most likely. 

 

 

Hope this helps. 

ohhhhh, i didn't know ryzen required that >.>
(PPP might want to make a note about that?)

I'll hope that's my issue then (as it's an easy fix) Thank you for your help~

[Mark Kaine]

10 minutes ago, Neko_UwU said:

ohhhhh, i didn't know ryzen required that >.>
(PPP might want to make a note about that?)

I'll hope that's my issue then (as it's an easy fix) Thank you for your help~

I don't know if it's the cause but it will definitely contribute to issues if there are any,  so yes in best case your issues will just go away with better RAM. 

 

Also I made a mistake, Ryzen has recommendation of minimum 2x4GB 3000MHz DDR4 RAM, not 3200...

 

Although the price difference is minimal so it's better to go with just 3200 + actually. 

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

7 minutes ago, Neko_UwU said:

PPP might want to make a note about that?

They probably won't say anything because as long it's DDR4 RAM it should work, just not ideal. 

So yes I agree they definitely should warn people as buying too slow RAM for Ryzen is basically throwing money away. 

 

 

[Jacob H]

 

1 hour ago, Neko_UwU said:

My better ram will be here in a few days, but will ram that isn't super fast, really cause this problem?

This MB says it can take 1866 or whatever, so i'm not even as slow as it takes...

Yes, RAM that isn't up to spec of what your processor, etc. needs will cause really weird and troublesome issues. Getting the better RAM should fix your problem

[Neko_UwU]

On 12/31/2019 at 3:37 PM, JacobAL95 said:

 

Yes, RAM that isn't up to spec of what your processor, etc. needs will cause really weird and troublesome issues. Getting the better RAM should fix your problem

 

On 12/31/2019 at 3:09 PM, Mark Kaine said:

They probably won't say anything because as long it's DDR4 RAM it should work, just not ideal. 

So yes I agree they definitely should warn people as buying too slow RAM for Ryzen is basically throwing money away. 

 

 

 

On 12/30/2019 at 10:31 PM, Srijan Verma said:

For a system that expensive you have too little RAM

 

Check if your boot drive is the ssd and not the hdds
Is your cpu oc ? If yes restore it.
same for the gpu
It is highly possible that windows got curropt during install so try installing again, if nothing works then you will have to move on to individual component test if any component is faulty(could be the ram)

Have the new ram in, Problem is still present; What now?
(I'm losing faith/hope in this system; Makes no sense to me.

[Mark Kaine]

Ok, yeah this is really odd

 

Stuff like this is always difficult to troubleshoot. 

 

Do you have another hard-drive laying around perhaps? 

 

I'd start with that - I kinda don't trust these m2 /nvme drives... Not that they would be bad per say,  just seem to give people a lot of issues it seems. 

 

On 12/30/2019 at 10:22 PM, Neko_UwU said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/gamer1000percent/saved/4tXCLk

....

 

 

Where is your windows installed? 

 

I'd install on the Toshiba, disconnect all other drives - just a shot in the dark but worth a try imo. 

 

 

Next thing would be the PSU I guess... Idk a lot about PSUs but this one doesn't even have a name "gold PSU" ... OK. 

 

 

Some EVGA PSUs are actually not good I know that much... And with that GPU you want a very good PSU. 

 

 

Also this is a really odd issue (which kinda looks like hard-drive actually but it's impossible to say without testing) 

 

Did you monitor anything? 

 

What's the CPU/GPU  doing when you encounter these issues? 

 

Temps, idle / load? 

 

 

Does the stuttering issue also happen while playing games?   

 

 

 

 

[Srijan Verma]

What specs are you running?
Is it a old cpu or mobo?

[Neko_UwU]

So my problem still persists, (Don't think starting a new thread would help)
I've switched GPU's, Didn't change anything;
I've switched PSU's, didn't change.

i switched my boot drive, for like a day and a half, it helped a little? like i still had a small hickup/stutter or two, but it didnt' freak out like it normally does.

i switched the Spot on the MB that my m.2 boot is in, and it didn't change anything.

I ordered a *new* 970 evo and was gonna install win 8 on it. Incase it is my drive, or my windows (as i think i googled a while back and one person had a similar problem to mine, and they said it stopped after they went back to win 8 ) and this would kill two birds with one stone; Hopefully.

i did a sector test on my current boot drive with *easis drive check* and it says sector 976773120 is bad. (i don't know what one bad sector says/means though, and if it can cause the problem i'm having)

 

I've vastly looked in the Event viewer, but can't find anything relevant. 

 

i planned on trying "Samsung Hutil" but i haven't yet. 

 

Anyone have any thoughts/test before i do switch drives/OS and pray its fixed? or is there a test, that when it is stroking out, i can do?