Please help me decide!

[SundayDriver]

Evening all, hope everyone has had an amazing Christmas day.

 

I have been struggling with a build decision for the last month now, and hoping for some advice. I have some money together to build myself a new rig. Just been waiting to see what deals are to be had in January.

 

 I have just upgraded to an Asus PG349Q, 3440x1440 120hz display, and my current rig is starting to struggle to drive it at it's full potential, and I am out of OC headroom.

 

Current spec:

 

6700k @ 4.6GHz

32Gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3200 DDR4

ASUS Maxiumus VIII Hero

Strix OC GTX1070 @ 2101MHz

 

I plan to re-use PSU, Case & fans, RAM and AIO Cooler, as they are still well within spec IMO.

 

I have about £2k to £2.5k (at a push if I can sell some of the old components) to put into upgrading her. (I'd rather hang onto what I have for a HTPC / Living room gaming rig if I can)

 

Now, I am stuck between an intel 9900KF (unless anyone can give me a reason to go 9700k maybe?), or Ryzen 3900x with a Maximus XI hero. as they are about the same price right now. And also, should I go RTX2080 Super, or Ti? (Super is comfortably within budget, Ti will require some scrimping and selling). The market is annoyingly confusing right now for me.

 

I have not run an AMD based system since my first gaming rig around 15 years ago where I had an Athlon 64 x2 I think it was. Ryzen will be a whole new learning curve, whereas Intel I am very familiar with and have no fears about tweaking.

 

My use case, is mostly heavy web browsing (can have 20 or so Chrome tabs on the go at once), Gaming (Mostly things like CoD, Forza, PUBG, Red Dead, Destiny 2, Borderlands), I also spend a good deal of time in VR with the Rift.

 

I very, Very rarely stream my gameplay, as I don't get much time to game as it is, let alone concentrate on streaming, so that's not a priority. It's mostly a weekend thing, or once a fortnight. I do some very occasional editing in Vegas and Photoshop for personal projects with friends (Cutting together montages of our car meets and track days) about once a month maybe. 

 

Thankyou so much in advance for any advice!

[Fasauceome]

They Ryzen system would be my personal pick, not only because you get neato PCIe 4th gen but also when 2020 CPUs release you can upgrade to another generation, while Intel will have a new LGA 1200 socket. 

 

The 2080 super will be a better value pick for the GPU, but if you sell the CPU and mobo you might be able to stretch to that 2080 ti

[DobertRownySr]

Why get the 9900KF over the 9900k?

I would not recommend the 9700k, simply because it is an 8 thread CPU and will likely be limited in a couple years.

Your display is 120hz, so there isn't much reason to go with an intel i9, it would make more sense if you had a 240hz screen. I would recommend the 3900x or the 3700x

[SundayDriver]

6 minutes ago, DobertRownySr said:

Why get the 9900KF over the 9900k?

I would not recommend the 9700k, simply because it is an 8 thread CPU and will likely be limited in a couple years.

Your display is 120hz, so there isn't much reason to go with an intel i9, it would make more sense if you had a 240hz screen. I would recommend the 3900x or the 3700x

 

Purely for the £50 or so saving as I don't see any reason why I'd need the iGPU. the 9900KF was my choice for 'future proofing' the build and to be able to run anything I throw at it for the next 4-5 years. I don't have much left over after rent etc to save towards new things, and I live within a very strict budget. My PC is the one little luxury I hide away £60-70 a month over a few years for lol.

9 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

They Ryzen system would be my personal pick, not only because you get neato PCIe 4th gen but also when 2020 CPUs release you can upgrade to another generation, while Intel will have a new LGA 1200 socket. 

 

The 2080 super will be a better value pick for the GPU, but if you sell the CPU and mobo you might be able to stretch to that 2080 ti

Is there any major benefit beside PCIe gen 4 I'd gain with Ryzen, and is PCIe 4 even a worthwhile feature to have with RTX2080 and 1x m.2 Samsung 970 evo plus SSD? can any current tech really take full advantage of it?

I guess I'm a little scared of change also. I know Intel very well, and have no worries OCing and tweaking their chips. AMD, for many years has always had the image of the 'budget' option to me. Although I am starting to realize that's not the case today.

 

[Fasauceome]

49 minutes ago, SundayDriver said:

Is there any major benefit beside PCIe gen 4 I'd gain with Ryzen, and is PCIe 4 even a worthwhile feature to have with RTX2080 and 1x m.2 Samsung 970 evo plus SSD? can any current tech really take full advantage of it?

New PCIe 4.0 SSDs are wicked fast, but assuming the 970 Evo is plenty for you for the years to come, the other benefits would of course be the core count, as well as the memory controller which would allow for some excellent memory speeds if you were after that, maybe if 3D modelling becomes a more important hobby or something. 

 

50 minutes ago, SundayDriver said:

I guess I'm a little scared of change also. I know Intel very well, and have no worries OCing and tweaking their chips. AMD, for many years has always had the image of the 'budget' option to me. Although I am starting to realize that's not the case today

Trust me, most of your knowledge will carry over 

[boggy77]

I'd say get a 2080super and see how it plays with your current cpu. The 6700k is still a solid cpu and you might be surprised. 

As others said, if you want to upgrade the cpu as well, the 9900 or the 3900 are the only options that are an improvement over your 6700. Might not be worth the upgrade cost though.

[SundayDriver]

12 hours ago, boggy77 said:

I'd say get a 2080super and see how it plays with your current cpu. The 6700k is still a solid cpu and you might be surprised. 

As others said, if you want to upgrade the cpu as well, the 9900 or the 3900 are the only options that are an improvement over your 6700. Might not be worth the upgrade cost though.

I might start with the GPU now and drop the extra for a Ti so I won't need to upgrade for quite some time. I'd prefer to build fresh, but it's not honestly within budget, and I want 120fps now lol.

It's not often the 6700k holds me back tbh, but I notice it's working fairly hard in CoD and Borderlands. I only really notice a slowdown when I have too many heavy chrome tabs on the go, but that's easily remedied.

 

I know the 6700k won't let the RTX hit it's full potential, but I don't plan to keep running it for long. Will start squirreling away in the tin again for a few months maybe and see what 10th gen has to offer in 2020. If Ryzen can still outperform, or it's more cost effective to go AMD then I'll go down that route. Gives me more time to decide whether I want to go with Team Red or Blue.

 

Thanks for the input!