Radeon 5600XT

[masethekiller]

Radeon 5500 was a huge dissapointment IMO but the 5600x is coming out and it's said to be faster than the geforce 1660 TI.  So this could end up being the 'value' card by ATI if its the same price or lower than the TI. Although at least if you bought a card recently it's a little too late.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/alleged-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-3dmark-benchmark-results-leak

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/262345/amd-rx-5600-xt-poised-to-offer-vega-56-like-performance-possible-specs-rumored

[person223]

 

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[dizmo]

11 minutes ago, person223 said:

 

I just bought a rx 5700 not xt for 350 dollers but with a 40$ mail in rebate and it comes with 3 months of xbox game pass and a free game. Hope I did not make the wrong decison also i am somewhat excited for the r 5600

It's not like the 5600 is going to be faster than the 5700..

[person223]

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[dizmo]

2 minutes ago, person223 said:

yeah but it may be a better Value

Less performance for less money. Kind of how it always works, no?

[person223]

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[dizmo]

1 minute ago, person223 said:

But you could be paying up to 100$ for like a 10% to 30% better performance wich may not be worth it for a slight perfromance gain

 

for example 

 

x card cost 100$ for 300 perfromance

but

b card cost 300$ for 330 perfromance

Except they wouldn't do that, because it would sabotage their own product stack.

[person223]

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[person223]

 

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[dizmo]

8 minutes ago, person223 said:

 Not true because they did the same thing with the r 5 2600 and the r 5 3600

they are 100$ apart and r 5 3600 only offers like 10 to 20 more frames

Uhhh look at what you just said.

Those products were a year apart. It's a generational improvement. That's expected.

1 minute ago, person223 said:

 

Please mark my post "Not true because they did the same thing with the r 5 2600 and the r 5 3600

they are 100$ apart and r 5 3600 only offers like 10 to 20 more frames" As solved

Except for the fact that you're wrong, sure.

[person223]

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[person223]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Uhhh look at what you just said.

Those products were a year apart. It's a generational improvement. That's expected.

Except for the fact that you're wrong, sure.

Humans have opions

[Otto_iii]

39 minutes ago, person223 said:

yeah but it may be a better Value

that would be fantastic, but all indications are after recent calls with shareholders AMD (Radeon) is going to consistently charge as much as they can get away with, atleast this is what smarter people then me have been saying who pay attention to this stuff.

If we are lucky it will come in at >270$ so it atleast properly competes with the 1660ti, albeit nothing special, no value added really, but at this sort of midrange area honestly people are just gonna keep recommending the 1660 Super unless they place the 5600XT closer to 230$ then 270$ while it outpaces both these, people still default to Nvidea, AMD is seen as bit of a risk by most consumers, even if unfairly. I'm not holding my breathe they will bring good value after the 5500xt pricing disaster. 

If we cut it straight between the 170$ 550xt 4gb and base 5700 at 350$, we're still at 260$, that would be acceptable, but not gonna shake up the market, not like the 290-320$ 5700s actually were, atleast before AMD decided to stop selling discounted dies to AIBs

If you want proper value get a discounted XFX RX 5700 DD Ultra or Reference RX 5700 while you can.  Its very likely pricing is just going to get worse for the foreseeable future. 
https://www.amazon.com/XFX-1750MHz-Express-Graphics-Rx-57XL8LBD6/dp/B07XVMXBQW/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=rx+5700&qid=1577240106&sr=8-2
https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-rx5700-8g/p/N82E16814930019?Item=N82E16814930019&Description=5700&cm_re=5700-_-14-930-019-_-Product
etc

[masethekiller]

Yeah I've seen the cheapest 5700 cards on amazon.  300 is a good deal but I don't do more than 1080p so I got the 1660 super.   Amd used to be the 'value' company, you think they would be again because it means more sales which means ultimately more profit.  Nvidia has the larger marketshare by a large margin and their cards are almost always leading in performance.  

[person223]

2 minutes ago, masethekiller said:

Yeah I've seen the cheapest 5700 cards on amazon.  300 is a good deal but I don't do more than 1080p so I got the 1660 super.   Amd used to be the 'value' company, you think they would be again because it means more sales which means ultimately more profit.  Nvidia has the larger marketshare by a large margin and their cards are almost always leading.  

is rtx 2060 for 300$ a good price

[dizmo]

48 minutes ago, person223 said:

Humans have opions

They sure do. There's also this thing called fact, and that isn't subject to opinion.

[person223]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

They sure do. There's also this thing called fact, and that isn't subject to opinion.

Why do most forms and in a somewhat pointless debate

[Triboal]

As always with these things, wait until it's released, read the reviews and check out the pricing. Speculation only gets you so far because....it's speculation after all.

 

But AMD has definitely found itself in a tough position where the 5700(XT) is priced (relative to its performance) really competitively, but the fact the product stack goes down means it goes up against Nvidia's offerings such as the competitively priced GTX 1660 super and even it's own products (such as what the 5500 XT did going up against the RX 580). I'm sure what consumers would love to see is AMD compete against Nvidia in the higher segment where consumer's choices (if you can call it that) are the 2080/2080S and 2080 Ti which are all ludicrously priced compared to the jump in performance you get.

[masethekiller]

2 hours ago, person223 said:

is rtx 2060 for 300$ a good price

300 dollars is a good price for the card but it depends if you need it or not. You only need this type of card for 2k or 4k gaming. A geforce 1660 or super or ti or probably the upcoming 5600xt will give you all the performance you need, ultra settings above 60 FPS and given the high performance/memory for 1080p it should be relevant for a few years

[dizmo]

3 hours ago, person223 said:

Why do most forms and in a somewhat pointless debate

What?
I'm going to guess you meant "why do most forums end in a somewhat pointless debate." Which is still wrong. It'd be posts, not forums.

However, it's because you stated something that made little sense, failed to back it up in any way, and then threw out the "humans have opinions" as your retort, implying that because what you said was your "opinion", you couldn't be wrong; even though you were.

[masethekiller]

Lets all be friends guys its christmas.  

[person223]

6 hours ago, masethekiller said:

300 dollars is a good price for the card but it depends if you need it or not. You only need this type of card for 2k or 4k gaming. A geforce 1660 or super or ti or probably the upcoming 5600xt will give you all the performance you need, ultra settings above 60 FPS and given the high performance/memory for 1080p it should be relevant for a few years

2k is not a resoultion 

happy christmas

[masethekiller]

Yes 2k is a resolution.    I meant 1440p but 2k is technically a resolution. It's not just not commonly used. 

[masethekiller]

The card is supposed to be 250 dollars and faster than the TI and come out this month.  XFX made a web page for the card and then deleted but here is a copy of it 

 

 

you can find it on bing cache, the weblink isn't working when I copy and paste it.