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InfamousSlayer
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What games do you play? If they are e-sports games like CSGO that benefit from high refresh rate, then I would get a TN panel. See below, apparently they don't. 

 

If not, then I would get an IPS panel. Alternatively, you can get the best of both worlds and get a VA panel monitor.

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5 minutes ago, InfamousSlayer said:

high refresh rate TN panel

Like more than 144Hz ? No. Get IPS AOC 24G2 or VA AOC C24G1.

1 minute ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

e-sports games like CSGO that benefit from high refresh rate

No, they don't, neither for high skilled nor for average player, even the difference between 144Hz and 60Hz doesn't affect the game that much, it's more of a QoL upgrade.

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2 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

What games do you play? If they are e-sports games like CSGO that benefit from high refresh rate, then I would get a TN panel.

 

If not, then I would get an IPS panel. Alternatively, you can get the best of both worlds and get a VA panel monitor.

I mainly play FPS games, like CS GO, APEX etc. Some action games too.

 

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12 minutes ago, Juular said:

Like more than 144Hz ? No. Get IPS AOC 24G2 or VA AOC C24G1.

No, they don't, neither for high skilled nor for average player, even the difference between 144Hz and 60Hz doesn't affect the game that much, it's more of a QoL upgrade.

Its been tested and Linus actually got kills on Shroud when Shroud were forced to play on 60Hz monitors. 

In CS and other fast paced shooters you are moving and turning around fast. When doing that on a 60Hz panel you will see your entire surroundings as a blur, you cant even make out text. On a higher refresh rate its clearer and clearer to the point you are picking up way more details and catching enemies where you wouldnt before. So id say its EXTREMELY important. Definetely move above 60Hz.

 

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6 minutes ago, JohnnyAvean said:

Its been tested and Linus actually got kills on Shroud when Shroud were forced to play on 60Hz monitors. 

In CS and other fast paced shooters you are moving and turning around fast. When doing that on a 60Hz panel you will see your entire surroundings as a blur, you cant even make out text. On a higher refresh rate its clearer and clearer to the point you are picking up way more details and catching enemies where you wouldnt before. So id say its EXTREMELY important. Definetely move above 60Hz.

 

Ok, Any recommendations? 

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19 minutes ago, Juular said:

Like more than 144Hz ? No. Get IPS AOC 24G2 or VA AOC C24G1.

No, they don't, neither for high skilled nor for average player, even the difference between 144Hz and 60Hz doesn't affect the game that much, it's more of a QoL upgrade.

I beg to differ. The difference between 60 and 144 is extraordinary

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I would go deferentially for IPS, blacks, whites and the colors are fantastic!

But i doubt you will find at this budget

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19 minutes ago, JohnnyAvean said:

Its been tested and Linus actually got kills on Shroud when Shroud were forced to play on 60Hz monitors.

I didn't say it's doesn't make a difference 60Hz vs 144Hz at all, it's there, but it will not make you stellar player if you aren't already. But comparing 144Hz vs 240Hz it's not even noticeable in most situations except extremely high paced games and even then it doesn't affect the gameplay even to the level as with 60Hz vs 144Hz. You know, people were gaming on 60Hz displays for ages before 144Hz became mainstream. As of blurring, it's more of panel dependent, neither 240Hz panel will necessarily have less blurring than 144Hz one nor the other way around.

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I would go deferentially for IPS, blacks, whites and the colors are fantastic!

But i doubt you will find at this budget

IPS ? Blacks ? Like, it's definitely better than TN but if you want blacks then VA is the way.

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8 minutes ago, Juular said:

IPS ? Blacks ? Like, it's definitely better than TN but if you want blacks then VA is the way.

You are wrong!

Except that the reviews say otherwise (have a better look)

I have 2 monitors in the front of me, one IPS and one VA, before the VA i had a TN, i can tell you the IPS black is by far better!

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17 minutes ago, Constantin said:

You are wrong!

Except that the reviews say otherwise (have a better look)

I had 2 monitors in the front of me, one IPS and one VA, before the VA i had a TN, i can tell you the IPS black is by far better!

What models specifically ? It depends a lot on the models, there are VAs with terrible black uniformity and IPS ones with excellent black uniformity, but overall VAs have less backlight bleed and deeper blacks in my experience. Reviewing that are a bit tricky matter, rtings.com have somewhat reliable way to do that.

VA MSI MAG271CQR, terrible uniformity - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mag271cqr#comparison_1420

VA Samsung JG50, decent uniformity, deep blacks - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/jg50#comparison_1420

VA MSI MPG27CQ, good uniformity, somewhat less deep blacks - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mpg27cq#comparison_1420

IPS ASUS VG27AQ, good uniformity, almost no 'IPS glow', i'd say it qualifies as deep blacks - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/tuf-vg27aq#comparison_1420

IPS ASUS PG279Q, good uniformity but rather standard case of 'IPS glow' - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-swift-pg279q#comparison_1420

IPS Gigabyte AD27QD, bad uniformity and even more pronounced 'IPS glow' - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-ad27qd#comparison_1420

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5 minutes ago, Juular said:

What models specifically ? It depends a lot on the models, there are VAs with terrible black uniformity and IPS ones with excellent black uniformity, but overall VAs have less backlight bleed and deeper blacks in my experience. Reviewing that are a bit tricky matter, rtings.com have somewhat reliable way to do that.

VA MSI MAG271CQR, terrible uniformity - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mag271cqr#comparison_1420

VA Samsung JG50, decent uniformity, deep blacks - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/jg50#comparison_1420

VA MSI MPG27CQ, good uniformity, somewhat less deep blacks - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mpg27cq#comparison_1420

IPS ASUS VG27AQ, good uniformity, almost no 'IPS glow', i'd say it qualifies as deep blacks - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/tuf-vg27aq#comparison_1420

IPS ASUS PG279Q, good uniformity but rather standard case of 'IPS glow' - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-swift-pg279q#comparison_1420

IPS Gigabyte AD27QD, bad uniformity and even more pronounced 'IPS glow' - https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-ad27qd#comparison_1420

I have the LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit.

Excellent Black.

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6 minutes ago, Constantin said:

I have the LG 27UK650-W, 4K, IPS, HDR10, 10bit.

Excellent Black.

Rtings.com begs to differ, standard IPS panel, good values of contrast and uniformity for IPS tho.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27uk650-w#comparison_1383

What VA display you were comparing it with ?

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12 minutes ago, Juular said:

Rtings.com begs to differ, standard IPS panel, good values of contrast and uniformity for IPS tho.

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27uk650-w#comparison_1383

What VA display you were comparing it with ?

The  Samsung 24" LED Monitor (SE390) that i have as 2nd is not VA, it's PLS (my bad)

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I got myself one of these Acer XF240Hbmjdpr
TN panel 144hz, it has become G-sync compatible, I'm not going back to 60hz that's for sure.
I had to play with the settings for a while, it was way too bright for me, colours were not the finest, but i'm happy with it now.
The early models seemed to have a lot of issues but not one of them is visible on my one

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