Feedback on AMD purchase

[NaysWindu]

So I'm now upgrading to ryzen 3000. With Black Friday currently on, I've managed to pick up the following deal:

Total is AU$749 - or about $500US

 

The MOBO was on sale for about 55 AU less that normal price. Is this an OK purchase? I spent a lot of time looking at X470, but I'm really not certain what the memory support was like. Most of the RAM that I was wanting to get wasn't verified for XMP on the X470 boards I was looking at. My max budget was 750 AU, and ive gone slightly over that if including shipping. I would have gotten better RAM if I could, but I figured I could just overclock the RAM to 3600 after I got it. If I've majorly screwed up, I still have time to cancel it. Thanks guys

[Streetguru]

18 minutes ago, NaysWindu said:

 

You can just flash the bios with a USB, on some of MSI's B450 motherboards, or the MAX boards come with the 3000 series bios. VRM is perfectly fine, if you need all of the extra features that board seems fine.

 

You're going to want faster memory for Ryzen 3000 though, this one's 3600mhz CL16, a lot will be CL18, which is about as fast as the RAM you have there.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vDD2KB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($305.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($131.72 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($116.60 @ Newegg Australia)
Total: $553.32
 

 

[ddennis002]

15 minutes ago, NaysWindu said:

So I'm now upgrading to ryzen 3000. With Black Friday currently on, I've managed to pick up the following deal:

Total is AU$749 - or about $500US

 

The MOBO was on sale for about 55 AU less that normal price. Is this an OK purchase? I spent a lot of time looking at X470, but I'm really not certain what the memory support was like. Most of the RAM that I was wanting to get wasn't verified for XMP on the X470 boards I was looking at. My max budget was 750 AU, and ive gone slightly over that if including shipping. I would have gotten better RAM if I could, but I figured I could just overclock the RAM to 3600 after I got it. If I've majorly screwed up, I still have time to cancel it. Thanks guys

No real difference on memory as x470 to x570. Support is just a tested guide line more than anything. The CPU determines how well memory will run. If the IMC is at least on par, you can get 600Mhz OC's on memory if you know what your doing with your timings.

 

Overall looks good. Going x570 really isn't needed unless you need pci-e gen 4. The AM4 socket will be dead after next year and x470 boards will more than likely beable to run 4 gen ryzen just like x370 could run 3rd gen.

 

When 5th gen hits there will be a socket change so a Mobo will be need anyway.

[NaysWindu]

11 minutes ago, ddennis002 said:

No real difference on memory as x470 to x570. Support is just a tested guide line more than anything. The CPU determines how well memory will run. If the IMC is at least on par, you can get 600Mhz OC's on memory if you know what your doing with your timings.

 

Overall looks good. Going x570 really isn't needed unless you need pci-e gen 4. The AM4 socket will be dead after next year and x470 boards will more than likely beable to run 4 gen ryzen just like x370 could run 3rd gen.

 

When 5th gen hits there will be a socket change so a Mobo will be need anyway.

Hmm. Maybe I should go to an X470 board then. There was one for a bit cheaper available. Is literally the only thing for X570 is PCIe 4? Memory really has no impact?

I'm looking at this one as an alternative: https://www.umart.com.au/Gigabyte-X470-Aorus-Ultra-Gaming-Socket-AM4-ATX-Motherboard_43545G.html
I can ask them to flash the BIOS for me, so that shouldnt be a problem

[NaysWindu]

37 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You can just flash the bios with a USB, on some of MSI's B450 motherboards, or the MAX boards come with the 3000 series bios. VRM is perfectly fine, if you need all of the extra features that board seems fine.

 

You're going to want faster memory for Ryzen 3000 though, this one's 3600mhz CL16, a lot will be CL18, which is about as fast as the RAM you have there.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/vDD2KB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($305.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($131.72 @ Amazon Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($116.60 @ Newegg Australia)
Total: $553.32
 

 

Thanks for the feedback

Main issue there is that I can't do a BIOS flash if the board doesnt have flashback. I'm coming from an i7 4770 and Z87 MOBO. Dont have access to any ryzen chips atm. I am pretty set on Trident-Z RGB ram tho, coz im a sucker for looks. There is an X470 board that I am looking at (reply above), which would probably let me shift my budget to get 3600Mhz CL16 RAM (Lower CL is better right?), but is that even worth it? Memory overclocking isnt too bad on Zen 2. Is the ram you recommended up there CL16 or CL18?

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, NaysWindu said:

Thanks for the feedback

Main issue there is that I can't do a BIOS flash if the board doesnt have flashback. I'm coming from an i7 4770 and Z87 MOBO. Dont have access to any ryzen chips atm. I

You don't need a CPU installed to do USB bios flashing, you just follow some steps, and hit the bios flash button on the back of the MSI B450 board with the feature.

None of the X470 boards have USB Bios flashing at a decent price I don't think for some reason. So I'd just get X570 probably unless you have some other way to flash the bios

 

That's really the only 3600mhz RAM I'd go for due to the price. You can just try overclocking a 3200mhz Kit.

Though a CL14 3200mhz kit probably costs around the same as a 3600mhz CL16 kit.

[caramelovic]

If you dont need sli, go for a msi b450 mb(the b450m mortar max if you can find it in your country) and faster memory. and maybe a aftermarket cooler(arctic freezer 34 is a good cheap option) to overclock it to 3600x specs