Upgrading Ryzen-PC

[Guest]

Hello folks,

First of all here are my PC-specs:

Mobo: Asrock AB350m (not the pro version!)

PSU: Xilence Performance 430W 80+ Bronze

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X (OC at 3.9 GHz)

GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (from Gainward)

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB 2400 MHz (2x8)

HDD: 1TB WD Blue 5400 rpm (for games etc)

SSD: Intel SSD 600p 128GB, M.2 

Case: Sharkoon VG5-W

CPU-Cooler: Noctua U12S SE AM4

 

I've connected two monitors and one TV. My main monitor is a Samsung Curved Monitor C27FG73 with 144 Hz Full-HD and AMD-Freesync and my secondary a Benq (don't know the model number) with 60 Hz. My TV is a Toshiba from around 5-6 years ago.

 

I play mostly:

• League of Legends
• GTA V
• Battlefield V
• NieR: Automata
• Satisfactory

I wanted to update my gaming rig a bit to be able to play near to 144 fps with medium to high graphic settings. Right now I get about 100-144 fps on high settings in league and 55 to 80 fps in GTA V on high settings. My fps are dropping mostly in nier at high settings to 40 fps and a maximum fps of 60. 

I actually don't know what to upgrade first. I thought on upgrading the CPU first. There I'd like to stick with AMD's Ryzen processors since they are in my opinion the best price for performance-deal. I searched a bit and compared many times the Ryzen 7 2700X with the new Ryzen 5 3600(X). In most cases the Ryzen 5 3600 outperforms the Ryzen 7 2700X, but only for 5-6%. In my country (germany) the Ryzen 7 2700X costs about 160-170€ (176-187 USD) and the Ryzen 5 3600 costs only 30€ more. Would the new Ryzen 5 be worth that extra 30€? I guess yes, but would it be worth for what I want to play? I don't know. Or is it worth waiting for Ryzen Zen 3 aka Ryzen 4 Gen? What's your opinion?

Secondly I thought about upgrading the gpu. I don't want to spend so much money on a 2080 (which would also be kinda overkill for my needs) so I decided to stick either to a 2070(S) or AMD RX 5700xt. Most benchmarks I've seen comparing the 2070S with the RX 5700xt are sometimes even, sometimes the rx 5700xt is better and sometimes the 2070S. I actually don't carre about raytracing and since I have an AMD-Freesync Monitor it would be better to get a 5700xt. At the moment most 5700xt cards are at 400€+ (440 USD) and most 2070(S) at 500€+ (550 USD). What would you prefer? I mean a 2070 maybe is more worth in the future, but at the moment a 5700xt is 100€ less and has quite the same performance as the 2070(S). 

 

So let's assume I would have a Ryzen 3600X CPU and a RTX 2070S would my psu withstand this? Or do I have to get a new psu aswell?

For the mainboard I would go for a b450 from msi since they support ryzen 3gen out of the box (if I would go with the 3600).

 

TLDR:

• What would you upgrade first?
• Which better component would you pick?
• (Your thoughts on Ryzen 7 2700X VS Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070(S) VS RX 5700xt)

Thank you in advance!

[Mholes]

((PSU)?) > GPU > Motherboard + CPU

 

PSU is okayish, i take its Xilence Performance A+? If it's Performance C then you need to upgrade it for sure. 430W MIGHT just be enough, even with 2070S.

 

CPU: i'd prefer the Ryzen 5 3600, basicly the same as 3600X and newer than 2700X. If you really need to save some money then you could go with 2700X, but imo 3600 is worth the extra 30€. Main reason being better memory compatibility. (No need to buy B-die)

 

GPU: Hard to say which one would be better overall, i'd pick the cheapest 5700XT (NOT THE BLOWER COOLER ONES), unless 2070S is cheaper or within 20€.

 

Also wait for other comments too!

[Meganter]

21 minutes ago, SchnoppDog said:

• What would you upgrade first?
• Which better component would you pick?
• (Your thoughts on Ryzen 7 2700X VS Ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 2070(S) VS RX 5700xt)

Hello,

 

You should uprade your PSU and GPU 1st if you want to play some 1440p 144Hz and later the CPU for a 3600 as stated above  

[Mholes]

6 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

Hello,

 

You should uprade your PSU and GPU 1st if you want to play some 1440p 144Hz and later the CPU for a 3600 as stated above  

OH SHOOT! Missed the 144Hz there :DDD , totally agree -> GPU first.

[SavageNeo]

Buy better psu, like rm 650w.

Then buy better gou 5700 or 5700Xt. 2060 super or 1660 super.

Then buy ryzen 5 3600 or 3600x if you prefer better stock cooler.

You should sell your old ram and buy atleast 3200mhz cl16 ram. I would prefer 2x8gb 3600mhz cl16 memory kit.

 

Finally you should buy a bigger ssd. 

[Devryd]

9 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Then buy ryzen 5 3600 or 3600x if you prefer better stock cooler.

The money you spend on the x is far more, than you would have to pay for a better cooler. The x is not really worth it

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Devryd said:

The money you spend on the x is far more, than you would have to pay for a better cooler. The x is not really worth it

Well its 30bucks more here in Finland. Comes with better stock cooler and higher frequenzy

[Devryd]

The Stock cooler might be better, but it is not good. Also ryzen overclocks itself depending on it's temp and volzage headroom. For 30 Dollars you should be able to get a far better cooler got the CPU which will also be a lot quieter. I use to have the wraith spire on my R7 1700 and that was the Version which still had copper. The New wraith spire is pure Aluminium and the Fan needs more RPM for the same Performance. 

[Mholes]

13 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

Well its 30bucks more here in Finland. Comes with better stock cooler and higher frequenzy

3600 + 30€ cooler is still better value than 3600X with it's stock cooler. (Also in other regions the gap is bigger)

The +200MHz boost is the only + in 3600X, IF the cooler would still be copper instead of aluminum it might be a different case.

Also in games the fps difference is too small to actually make the 3600X worth the extra.

[Guest]

Thank you for your replies. So I guess my current cpu is okayish to handle the games. So the focus is now on a new gpu (aswell as a better psu). I guess I'll figure out later which gpu I am going to choose. 

3 hours ago, Plouffe said:

You should uprade your PSU and GPU 1st if you want to play some 1440p 144Hz

Right now my monitor can only delive 1920x1080, but I think the gpu upgrade should come first anyway.

 

I kinda guessed that Ryzen 5 3600 is recommended. Luckily I haven't a tight budget so I think later (after a new gpu) it will be the Ryzen 5 3600. I actually wouldn't go with the X-version of it. I mean yes it gives me some stock-MHz more, but I can counter that with overclocking the normal 3600 (also I don't need the stock cooler since I've got one from noctua anyways). 

 

Your replies helped me quite a lot to figure out what to buy first. Thank you very much.