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It never ceases to amaze me why the CPU companies never really give the consumer what they really want. We have AMD who released their flagship cpu's Ryzen 9  3950x and the Threadripper 3970x. The 3950x is fast but lacks a lot of features that the Threadripper 3970x has but is at a reasonable price point, where as the 3970x or 3960x is just too damn expensive for most people, and is too feature rich for most people.

Its either not enough grunt for a fair price or too much grunt and unaffordable for most, with nothing in between.

 

Couldn't we just rally and insist that AMD create or downspec a Threadripper cpu available somewhere in the middle? Mabee aThreadripper 16 core instead but with some of the current Threadripper features but at a lower price point.

 

Surely this could be achievable

 

Trev..

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What features are you looking for?  AMD does a lot better job at offering high-tier features at a lower pricepoint than Intel.  Namely SMT/HT, ECC support, RAID, PCIe lanes, etc.

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15 hours ago, Vizotv said:

It never ceases to amaze me why the CPU companies never really give the consumer what they really want. We have AMD who released their flagship cpu's Ryzen 9  3950x and the Threadripper 3970x. The 3950x is fast but lacks a lot of features that the Threadripper 3970x has but is at a reasonable price point, where as the 3970x or 3960x is just too damn expensive for most people, and is too feature rich for most people.

Its either not enough grunt for a fair price or too much grunt and unaffordable for most, with nothing in between.

 

Couldn't we just rally and insist that AMD create or downspec a Threadripper cpu available somewhere in the middle? Mabee aThreadripper 16 core instead but with some of the current Threadripper features but at a lower price point.

 

Surely this could be achievable

 

Trev..

I think the 3950x is good enough. sure it doesnt get the full memory support but its the 16 core 32 thread you are looking for.

 

they plan to release higher speced ones from the looks of it. the board of the CPU looks like it can still fit 4 more dies. meaning, if they release the 3980x and the 3990x, that would be hella powerful.

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Just now, Martin2132 said:

they plan to release higher speced ones from the looks of it. the board of the CPU looks like it can still fit 4 more dies. meaning, if they release the 3980x and the 3990x, that would be hella powerful.

They will, it's confirmed for next year

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because 1900X sales were god awful, so they learnt that something like this isnt needed? Besides so far all the TRX40 boards are so expensive, the TRX4 16 core will have to be noticeably cheaper than even the 3950X to even sell. The only good thing is that AMD could probably use solely dies with a lot of defective cores, because there are so many chiplets on each of them and there only needs to be 16 working cores in total

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1 hour ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

What features are you looking for?  AMD does a lot better job at offering high-tier features at a lower pricepoint than Intel.  Namely SMT/HT, ECC support, RAID, PCIe lanes, etc.

Extra Pcie lanes is probably  the most beneficial feature to include if AMD were to downcpec a Threadripper to 16 cores, so as to not choke your system when using multiple gpu cards and or m2 ssd's

 

Trev..

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22 minutes ago, Vizotv said:

Extra Pcie lanes is probably  the most beneficial feature to include if AMD were to downcpec a Threadripper to 16 cores, so as to not choke your system when using multiple gpu cards and or m2 ssd's

 

Trev..

They did used to offer overlapping threadripper and ryzen core counts for this reason (people who wanted mainstream performance with high end expandability) but I'm not sure how popular those models are.  They probably felt this time around that people aren't likely to want that combination, particularly since they've now stepped up to PCIe gen 4 which means devices can get the same bandwidth on half as many lanes.

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