1440 or 1080?

[Electronix]

Hey Linus Tech Tips,

 

I'm looking into building a new gaming rig, and I'm wondering if I should splurge on a 1440p monitor or just get a really high refresh rate 1080p monitor. I play a lot of FPS games like Battlefront II, Destiny 2, Battlefield 1, etc. and I like to get 100+ FPS on those. My budget is about 2k for all parts and peripherals atm. Any advice?

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Electronix said:

Hey Linus Tech Tips,

$2K, from what country?

[Electronix]

Just now, Streetguru said:

$2K, from what country?

I live in the US.

[flashiling]

if it's 2000$ for the monitor then you can just buy a 4k 144hz monitor and a 1080 240hz.

if it's for your computer And monitor, then add some specifics.

do you want intel or amd cpu?

do you want nvidia or amd gpu?

are you looking for the option to upgrade things like ram so you want more slots?

do you play battlefront ll destiny and battlefield compettetively and want to focus on shooting or casually and want it to be prettier.

[Electronix]

Just now, flashiling said:

if it's 2000$ for the monitor then you can just buy a 4k 144hz monitor and a 1080 240hz.

if it's for your computer And monitor, then add some specifics.

do you want intel or amd cpu?

do you want nvidia or amd gpu?

are you looking for the option to upgrade things like ram so you want more slots?

do you play battlefront ll destiny and battlefield compettetively and want to focus on shooting or casually and want it to be prettier.

The 2k budget is for everything. Sorry about the confusion. I'm fine with either Intel or AMD for the CPU, but I would prefer Nvidia for the GPU. I don't play any games competitively, no. I'm considering getting about 32 GB of RAM in my machine. I like pretty, but a low FPS renders that redundant imo.

[flashiling]

32 gig's of ram is unnessecary for just gaming and shouldn't be prioritized.

if you spend 2k on the entire rig itself i'd suggest going with a 1080p monitor with high refreshrate that's less expesnive than a 1440p with high refreshrate.

[Electronix]

Just now, flashiling said:

32 gig's of ram is unnessecary for just gaming and shouldn't be prioritized.

if you spend 2k on the entire rig itself i'd suggest going with a 1080p monitor with high refreshrate that's less expesnive than a 1440p with high refreshrate.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to get 32 to future proof, though?

[flashiling]

Just now, Electronix said:

Wouldn't it be a good idea to get 32 to future proof, though?

how long will you have that rig?

because if you're going for 32 gigs of ram yes you'll be future proof. but with "only" 2000$ and you still might need to spend 300$ on a great monitor the rest of your pc might be a bit more behind though.

like the difference between getting a 1660ti and 2060 is around 13% and you adding more ram doesn't help much.

[flashiling]

Just now, flashiling said:

and you adding more ram doesn't help much.

in terms of gaming performance  

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2 minutes ago, Electronix said:

Wouldn't it be a good idea to get 32 to future proof, though?

spare slots are futureproof for rams

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Electronix said:

The 2k budget is for everything. Sorry about the confusion. I'm fine with either Intel or AMD for the CPU, but I would prefer Nvidia for the GPU. I don't play any games competitively, no. I'm considering getting about 32 GB of RAM in my machine. I like pretty, but a low FPS renders that redundant imo.

With that kind of budget just get a 1440p 100-120hz ultra wide

Just a bunch of best value parts.

 

That RX 5700 is cheap because of the pretty average cooler, still better than blower cards though. Hard to beat that GPU in terms of value, as it's got 80-90% of a 2070 super's performance.

 

It's harder to run 32GBs of RAM at higher speeds. 16GBs is plenty, even for some 4k video editing.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yZMV7T

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Monoprice 138035 35.0" 3440x1440 120 Hz Monitor  ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1389.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 02:49 EST-0500

[Electronix]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

With that kind of budget just get a 1440p 100-120hz ultra wide

Just a bunch of best value parts.

 

That RX 5700 is cheap because of the pretty average cooler, still better than blower cards though. Hard to beat that GPU in terms of value, as it's got 80-90% of a 2070 super's performance.

 

It's harder to run 32GBs of RAM at higher speeds. 16GBs is plenty, even for some 4k video editing.

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yZMV7T

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($79.90 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Monoprice 138035 35.0" 3440x1440 120 Hz Monitor  ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1389.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-07 02:49 EST-0500

Would I want to get a higher end CPU like a 3900 or a 3700? Or will I be fine with the midrange?

[vanished]

Personally I'd go for higher framerate 1080p for the kinds of games you mentioned.

[Electronix]

Just now, Ryan_Vickers said:

Personally I'd go for higher framerate 1080p for the kinds of games you mentioned.

You're probably right. This will save me a lot of money if I just go for a 1080p build.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Electronix said:

Would I want to get a higher end CPU like a 3900 or a 3700? Or will I be fine with the midrange?

Unless you need the extra cores for more stable streaming the R5 3600 is fine for gaming. Ryzen 4000 will actually be out fairly soon by the latest rumors, probably only a minor upgrade though just from 7nm+

 

You just want to double check memory compatibility with your motherboard.

 

also toss in a 2TB or 4TB NAS drive for more mass storage.

If you're going with 1080p I'd get a 240hz display, they're around $250-300
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6RcHBZ

Monitor: Acer XF250Q Cbmiiprx 24.5" 1920x1080 240 Hz Monitor  ($229.99 @ Amazon)
https://www.displayninja.com/acer-xf250q-review/

 

 

[vanished]

Just now, Electronix said:

You're probably right. This will save me a lot of money if I just go for a 1080p build.

Well, not necessarily.  It's likely to require the same level of hardware performance anyway, and the monitor will probably cost about the same in the end.  It's just putting the money toward a different priority that I think will be more beneficial in this case.

[Electronix]

2 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Well, not necessarily.  It's likely to require the same level of hardware performance anyway, and the monitor will probably cost about the same in the end.  It's just putting the money toward a different priority that I think will be more beneficial in this case.

Couldn't I get 100+ FPS with just a 1660ti and midrange CPU on most games at 1080p? If so, I could just spend a lot less on the hardware itself.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Electronix said:

Couldn't I get 100+ FPS with just a 1660ti and midrange CPU on most games at 1080p? If so, I could just spend a lot less on the hardware itself.

In what games at what settings?

Unless that's maxxed settings medium/high usually still looks good and runs much faster.

[Electronix]

Just now, Streetguru said:

In what games at what settings?

Unless that's maxxed settings medium/high usually still looks good and runs much faster.

Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, Battlefield V, etc.

[flashiling]

2 minutes ago, Electronix said:

Couldn't I get 100+ FPS with just a 1660ti and midrange CPU on most games at 1080p? If so, I could just spend a lot less on the hardware itself.

not with everything on max.

my battlefield v settings in my 2080 is arouind 120 if i turn on rtx it's 77

[vanished]

1 minute ago, Electronix said:

Couldn't I get 100+ FPS with just a 1660ti and midrange CPU on most games at 1080p? If so, I could just spend a lot less on the hardware itself.

1440p is ~78% more pixels, which is also roughly 100 fps vs 60.  I know it doesn't scale quite like that but it's a ballpark thing.  If anything, the CPU will matter more on a high frame rate build because that's where it really comes into play (100 - 200+).  If you were content with 60 fps, you can get by with less as the GPU is the limiting factor.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Electronix said:

Destiny 2, Battlefront 2, Battlefield V, etc.

Probably start with any game at the lowest settings to see where your max fps will be, then start going after the high quality settings.

[191x7]

Go with 1440p since 1080p is considered low-end these days. A monitor is a thing one gets to use for 5+ years, and during that time one replaces the GPu a few times...

 

If you're not pleased with the performance of the pc on 1440p you can run games on a lower resolution, but once you upgrade the system it would run better.

 

Not that you need though, with a $400 1440p 144Hz monitor you still have $1600 for the rest of the parts and that probably will mean a Ryzen 5 and an RTX 2060S or RX 5700.

[Fredrik Svantesson]

I'd go with a high-refresh 1080p instead of a low-framerate 1440p.  1440p high-refresh is not realistic at that price point, and doesn't really give much of a noticeable difference either in terms of resolution.

[Praesi]

2k for everything isnt enough for a good 1440p 27" Display included. Anything below 27", 1080p will do just fine.