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Prof. Lucifer
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Hello, my friend doesn't have an account on the ltt forums and he's too lazy to make one so he asked me to post this here.

 

What is the best build he can get for $1400, he does a lot of video editing and sometimes gaming, also he uses a 4k monitor.

 

He said no gpu because in his budget, it would be hard to fit in a gpu and keep the build great so he plans on buying a gpu in the future.

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2 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Hello, my friend doesn't have an account on the ltt forums and he's too lazy to make one so he asked me to post this here.

What country?

 

you need a GPU to do video editing for the acceleration lol

 

what video editing software?

 

If it's in the US that's plenty to get a good PC. Even outside of it an R5 2600 or R5 3600 + RX 5700 shouldn't be hard to find.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

it would be hard to fit in a gpu and keep the build great

yes it's easy. Besides not having a GPU alone will make it suck

 

what software does he use? Adobe or something else?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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23 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

What is the best build he can get for $1400, he does a lot of video editing and sometimes gaming, also he uses a 4k monitor.

 

He said no gpu because in his budget, it would be hard to fit in a gpu and keep the build great so he plans on buying a gpu in the future.

4K resolution and No GPU.


That would be quite trivial for video editing. You need a decent GPU to get 4k resolution and also the fact that he's doing video editing, yeah.

 

If he's using Adobe Premier, you'll definitely need a GPU. 

 

For a budget of 1400 USD you can definitely build a decent gaming PC that can do video editing as well.

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He needs at least a cheap GPU to hook up monitors to, otherwise he's stuck with the APU options.

The 9900K is a great CPU with IGPU, but just utilizing the graphics will throttle the performance. But if we are being honest the few victories the 9900K claims over the 3900X are not big enough to justify it, imo. (And the 3900X needs a discreet GPU.)

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If he's US based, here is a good place to start:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $326.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $106.69 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card $499.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply BitFenix Whisper M 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $77.49 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1386.02
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-02 21:37 EDT-0400  

 

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Sorry for not clarifying, my friend doesn't need the PC until the next school year but he's planning to build it early then buy the GPU later on so he's only going to be using the desktop for basic stuff until next year.

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4 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

If he's US based, here is a good place to start:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $326.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Best Buy
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $106.69 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card $499.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply BitFenix Whisper M 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $77.49 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1386.02
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-02 21:37 EDT-0400  

 

Is the stock cooler good of the CPU good? Idk about my stuff.

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20 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Sorry for not clarifying, my friend doesn't need the PC until the next school year but he's planning to build it early then buy the GPU later on so he's only going to be using the desktop for basic stuff until next year.

That's still plenty of money for a mid range GPU

Just get any case with a Mesh Front
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBnxGc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($35.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($82.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.97 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $968.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-02 21:59 EDT-0400

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That's still plenty of money for a mid range GPU

Just get any case with a Mesh Front
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBnxGc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer Xtreme Rev.2 Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($35.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($82.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card  ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case  ($54.97 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $968.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-02 21:59 EDT-0400

Actually, I thought Chinese prices were similar, turns out they're a tad more expensive. So $1400 USD of stuff would probably cost only $1200 in the us, so the budget is more like $1200

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Just now, Prof. Lucifer said:

Actually, I thought Chinese prices were similar, turns out they're a tad more expensive. So $1400 USD of stuff would probably cost only $1200 in the us, so the budget is more like $1200

You're also going to want an MSI B450 board with USB bios flashing, so it can be updated without a CPU for Ryzen 3000 in case it needs it.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Is the stock cooler good of the CPU good? Idk about my stuff.

It's just fine for standard use and can support some lighter overclocking. 

If he plans to overclock, then grab a Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

I particularly like this case because it supports a nice deep cooler like that or the noctua NHD15.

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2 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

It's just fine for standard use and can support some lighter overclocking.

That or a Noctua cooler are more for silence

 

as a cheaper Neptwin or Scythe Fuma 2 likely has comparable performance.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

Spoiler

 

What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That or a Noctua cooler are more for silence

 

as a cheaper Neptwin or Scythe Fuma 2 likely has comparable performance.

True. The eSports Duo isnt far off either. 

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40 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

True. The eSports Duo isnt far off either. 

That one's just a single tower with a 2nd fan thrown on, it's not a major upgrade over the normal freezer 33, like a dual tower would be

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That one's just a single tower with a 2nd fan thrown on, it's not a major upgrade over the normal freezer 33, like a dual tower would be

I've seen many reviews that disagree. (Though looking at the thin body, it does look to be single tower + fan.)

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18 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

My friend came up with this, how is it?

Really bad GPU with an overkill system and expensive parts. Why doesn't he wait 1 year to build it ?

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $363.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $88.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $171.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $97.99 @ Walmart
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply BitFenix Whisper M 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $992.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 06:09 EST-0500  

 

If he wants to buy a GPU later though it's not really a great build as the 9700k doesn't have HT.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $326.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard $189.69 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $97.99 @ Walmart
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $294.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $55.88 @ Amazon
Power Supply BitFenix Whisper M 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1205.41
  Mail-in rebates -$40.00
  Total $1165.41
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 06:10 EST-0500  

With a better GPU.

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Just now, Plouffe said:

Really bad GPU with an overkill system and expensive parts. Why doesn't he wait 1 year to build it ?

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $363.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $88.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $171.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $97.99 @ Walmart
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply BitFenix Whisper M 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $992.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 06:09 EST-0500  

 

If he wants to buy a GPU later though it's not really a great build as the 9700k doesn't have HT.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $326.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard $189.69 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $97.99 @ Walmart
Video Card Asus GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card $294.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $55.88 @ Amazon
Power Supply BitFenix Whisper M 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $79.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1205.41
  Mail-in rebates -$40.00
  Total $1165.41
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-04 06:10 EST-0500  

With a better GPU.

Well, some people are impatient, and sadly my friend is too. Also neither me nor him know or stuff well.

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4 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Well, some people are impatient, and sadly my friend is too. Also neither me nor him know or stuff well.

He could have a complete computer for 1200€ with a 3600+2070S if he wants.

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4 minutes ago, Plouffe said:

He could have a complete computer for 1200€ with a 3600+2070S if he wants.

Well, the focus of the computer is not for gaming and I don't know my stuff so naturally I just assumed the CPU would be more important.

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2 minutes ago, Prof. Lucifer said:

Well, the focus of the computer is not for gaming and I don't know my stuff so naturally I just assumed the CPU would be more important.

Adobe likes iGPU (intel) and Cuda (Nvidia) but AMD is fine too if on a budget :) 

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5 hours ago, Plouffe said:

He could have a complete computer for 1200€ with a 3600+2070S if he wants.

3700X and 2070S as built above lol. 

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