ram overclocking

[PCnoobhere123]

hello trying to overclock my ram using dram calculator with a ryzen 2nd gen and it will not post.

im pretty sure i followed all the steps correctly from a tutorial i even tested the two different timings from each ram module 14-14-14-30 and 14-16-17-34 neither works. 

this is a pretty dumb question but perhaps maybe im not getting a post because i enable xmp then change the timings? should i manually set it to 2666mhz? and is it safe to get a few oc mhz out of this kit? 

 

btw i have team group dark 2x4gb cl15-17-17-35 1.2V samsung b-die

*tutorial im following is from hardware unboxed so i did not change soc voltages like he said in the video

 

 

[TrigrH]

10 minutes ago, PCnoobhere123 said:

hello trying to overclock my ram using dram calculator with a ryzen 2nd gen and it will not post.

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i even used the two different timings from each ram module 14-14-14-30 and 14-16-17-34.

I mean that will do it.

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team group dark 2x4gb cl15-17-17-35 1.2V samsung b-die

how do you know its b-die?

[PCnoobhere123]

17 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

I mean that will do it.

how do you know its b-die?

I used Thaiphoon burner. This is what it gives me.

[TrigrH]

2 minutes ago, PCnoobhere123 said:

I used a Thaiphoon burner. This is what it gives me.

okay now what is our CPU, and what is your goal here?

[PCnoobhere123]

8 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

okay now what is our CPU, and what is your goal here?

My specs are 

ryzen 3 2200g 

Asrock b350m pro 4 

rx 580 4gb

 

i want to overclock my ram and potentially decrease my cpu bottleneck.

First problem is my system will not post given neither the two different calculations ryzen calculator is giving me and i pretty much followed everything in the video. One thing that i think maybe is wrong is me enabling xmp then changing the timings? should i change the frequency manually and then change the timings? i have tried a couple of times and now i want to consult help first before trying again fearing that i may permanently damage my ram.  

[TrigrH]

1 minute ago, PCnoobhere123 said:

i want to overclock my ram and potentially decrease my cpu bottleneck.

again fearing that i may permanently damage my ram.  

You wont damage your ram.

 

Now what you need to do is enable XMP and boot.

Then instead of touching timings, you need to increase memory voltage and frequency. (Step up slowly)

[Jurrunio]

Just because it's B-die doesnt mean it's any good, there are samples so bad that make into low frequency kits, say 2666 CL15 like yours if not even worse (like 2400 CL17) after all

 

SOC voltage at 1.1V and Memory voltage at 1.4V is necessary if you wanna push it by any meaningful range though

[TrigrH]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just because it's B-die doesnt mean it's any good, there are samples so bad that make into low frequency kits, say 2666 CL15 like yours if not even worse (like 2400 CL17) after all

 

SOC voltage at 1.1V and Memory voltage at 1.4V is necessary if you wanna push it by any meaningful range though

Probs more mem voltage, b-die can handle it anyway.

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

Probs more mem voltage, b-die can handle it anyway.

bad b-die dont scale well with voltage either. If anything their behaviour is much like Hynix AFR/MFR

[PCnoobhere123]

15 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Just because it's B-die doesnt mean it's any good, there are samples so bad that make into low frequency kits, say 2666 CL15 like yours if not even worse (like 2400 CL17) after all

 

SOC voltage at 1.1V and Memory voltage at 1.4V is necessary if you wanna push it by any meaningful range though

Problem is i cant soc voltage in my bios i might go at 1.4v if it doesnt boot again. Also how do i input this value?

[PCnoobhere123]

33 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

You wont damage your ram.

 

Now what you need to do is enable XMP and boot.

Then instead of touching timings, you need to increase memory voltage and frequency. (Step up slowly)

i might go this path if changing the timings isnt really an option for me. what voltage do you recommend as a starting point?

[TrigrH]

11 minutes ago, PCnoobhere123 said:

i might go this path if changing the timings isnt really an option for me. what voltage do you recommend as a starting point?

1.5v and see what you can do with that

[PCnoobhere123]

so i set my frequency to 3200mhz @1.35v so far its all good. Quite happy with the fps gained if this will be stable. 

[TrigrH]

2 minutes ago, PCnoobhere123 said:

so i set my frequency to 3200mhz @1.35v so far its all good. Quite happy with the fps gained if this will be stable. 

you might need to run some memory stress tests to make sure your ram is stable (otherwise it will need more voltage)