CPU and GPU for new PC

[Syo]

Hello,

 

I have trouble choosing between a AMD based system vs. an Intel one.
Normally I would have chosen the Ryzen 7 3700X + Radeon RX 5700XT (Sapphire Pulse) with a fitting motherboard and would build it myself. This would cost me (with the other components) about 1275€ (about the same in $). 
Now in Germany ther is a special offer for a pre build system with following components for 1200€:
 

• CPU: Intel i7-9700KF
• CPU-Kühlung: Boostboxx Liquid B120
• MB: ASUS TUF Z390-PLUS
• RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Crucial 2666MHz DDR4
• GPU: ASUS Strix RTX 2070 8GB DDR6
• SSD: Kingston A2000 M.2 NVMe SSD
• HDD: 1TB SATA
• PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500W

I have looked at benchmarks and think the results are basically equally good. Would you choose the pre build PC or rather build it yourself?
For the other components of my AMD pc i would go for an Asus Prime x570, 18gb of DDR4-3000 and a 650W powersupply.

 

Thank you for your answers and please forgive my bad grammar.

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Syo said:

 

I'd rather have 8 cores 16 threads vs the 9700K, which is only going to be maybe 10% faster depending on the game.

There's a 3200mhz CL 16 kit here.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/RRc48d/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bls2k8g4d32aesck

Can't find any decently priced 3600mhz kits. Just check the motherboard's memory compatibility list.
 

 

[Blind X]

4 minutes ago, Syo said:

Hello,

 

I have trouble choosing between a AMD based system vs. an Intel one.
Normally I would have chosen the Ryzen 7 3700X + Radeon RX 5700XT (Sapphire Pulse) with a fitting motherboard and would build it myself. This would cost me (with the other components) about 1275€ (about the same in $). 
Now in Germany ther is a special offer for a pre build system with following components for 1200€:
 

• CPU: Intel i7-9700KF
• CPU-Kühlung: Boostboxx Liquid B120
• MB: ASUS TUF Z390-PLUS
• RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Crucial 2666MHz DDR4
• GPU: ASUS Strix RTX 2070 8GB DDR6
• SSD: Kingston A2000 M.2 NVMe SSD
• HDD: 1TB SATA
• PSU: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500W

I have looked at benchmarks and think the results are basically equally good. Would you choose the pre build PC or rather build it yourself?
For the other components of my AMD pc i would go for an Asus Prime x570, 18gb of DDR4-3000 and a 650W powersupply.

 

Thank you for your answers and please forgive my bad grammar.

Build it yourself obviously. The i7 9700KF lacks hyper-threading and for streaming/recording as well as video editing the Ryzen 3700X will absolutely dominate. RTX 2070 isn't as powerful as 5700 XT either so why in the world would you be byuing a system where you will be compromising on both the GPU as well as the CPU, also slow Ram with slow and less storage. Its a bad value for the price and I would just build something better my self.

 

Here is a recommendation on parts,

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  (€33.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€118.80 @ Alza) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€69.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.95 @ ARLT) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (€449.00 @ Caseking) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case  (€69.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 500 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€70.19 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1278.58
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 19:17 CEST+0200

[Syo]

@Streetguru @Blind X thank you for your anwers. I won't take the special offer then and build it myself.
For the recommended motherboard by Blind X (MSI B450 Tomahawk) I would have to update the Bios, which would be impossible with an uncompatible CPU (at least until the bios is updated). Or am I misinformed in this regard?

[Blind X]

15 minutes ago, Syo said:

@Streetguru @Blind X thank you for your anwers. I won't take the special offer then and build it myself.
For the recommended motherboard by Blind X (MSI B450 Tomahawk) I would have to update the Bios, which would be impossible with an uncompatible CPU (at least until the bios is updated). Or am I misinformed in this regard?

That board has a feature known as BIOS Flashback which lets you update the BIOS without the CPU installed. So there is no need for a previous gen CPU to update the BIOS.

 

 

[Streetguru]

33 minutes ago, Syo said:

@Streetguru @Blind X thank you for your anwers. I won't take the special offer then and build it myself.
For the recommended motherboard by Blind X (MSI B450 Tomahawk) I would have to update the Bios, which would be impossible with an uncompatible CPU (at least until the bios is updated). Or am I misinformed in this regard?

I'd rather just get an X570 board for the nicer VRM, some of MSI's B450 boards have USB bios flashing though.

the non XT card is only 10% slower, and you can flash the XT bios onto it in less than 5 minutes for a +5% boost. It has dual bios so you can just recover if there's an issue. Mine works fine anyways, I used the reddit guide.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/3nPBDx

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€329.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€183.57 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€78.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Intel 660p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€64.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 8 GB PULSE Video Card  (€387.99 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.82 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 CM 600 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€80.44 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1175.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-24 19:52 CEST+0200

 

 

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