Need help with new build

[Gapi]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$72.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$184.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$39.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$399.89 @ OutletPC
Case	NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case	$114.98 @ NZXT
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$94.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1142.41
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$1102.41
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-21 07:45 EDT-0400

 

 

I'm a newbie to pc building and I've been making a list for a while now but there's just a few things I'm uncertain about, so I'm here looking for some suggestions.

 

Storage: I'm looking for at least 2TB space for games & other. One option was a samsung 960 evo 500gb and a 2tb hard drive. Right now I put a 1TB ssd and a 1TB hard drive. I'm aware that the ssd I put is slower than a samsung 960, my friend said this will have a big impact on gaming, is that true or should I just stick with the slow one? This is my main problem.

 

GPU: Another option is a radeon 5700 xt, but since they cost about the same and I believe preform similar I opted for the rtx because of ray tracing. Worth upgrading to a 2070 or no?

 

Mobo: Do I really need the max version of the b450 because it's ryzen 3000 ready or is the regular one ok? What advantages does the max version have?

 

PSU: This corsair txm gold or a corsair cxm 550w 80+ Bronze ? I honestly have no clue about power supplies so help would be appreciated.

 

[Stormseeker9]

Storage up to you. 

5700XT or 2060S if you need cuda cores / ray tracing 

the mobo comes with a larger bios chip which can run the full version bios. There is no NEED, but I’d opt for it anyway. Out of box compatible.

 

corsair TXm 550 

[Gapi]

1 minute ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Storage up to you. 

5700XT or 2060S if you need cuda cores / ray tracing 

the mobo comes with a larger bios chip which can run the full version bios. There is no NEED, but I’d opt for it anyway. Out of box compatible.

 

corsair TXm 550 

Thanks. How much does a faster SSD affect performance? Would you think it's worth going for a smaller and faster SSD to prevent bottlenecking, or will games run just fine on the slower SSD with more space?

[Stormseeker9]

5 minutes ago, Gapi said:

Thanks. How much does a faster SSD affect performance? Would you think it's worth going for a smaller and faster SSD to prevent bottlenecking, or will games run just fine on the slower SSD with more space?

I mean Sata III based ssd’s Are mostly all the same speed anyway. It’s when you go to nvme it’s faster. Personally I don’t use and HDD’s more - too slow. Crucial mX500 is a good choice as SSD too, 970 evo (but dear). Some have said WD ssd’s are also good but no experience with it myself 

 

dont think youll see much much difference between ssd or nvme ssd when gaming 

[5x5]

The 5700 XT is on the level of the 2070S. Definitely faster than a 2060S which is slightly behind the 5700 non XT

[Gapi]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The 5700 XT is on the level of the 2070S. Definitely faster than a 2060S which is slightly behind the 5700 non XT

How do you know that? According to benchmarks the 2060 super is better than 5700 XT ?

[Jurrunio]

23 minutes ago, Gapi said:

my friend said this will have a big impact on gaming,

False. Games in my HP EX920 (PCIe 3.0 x4) dont load noticeably faster than in my Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (SATA 6Gbps) or Toshiba OEM 128GB SSD (PCIe 3.0 x2, on top of being significantly held back by its capacity). Effect should be even smaller when the 660p is faster than both 840 Pro and Toshiba.

 

23 minutes ago, Gapi said:

GPU: Another option is a radeon 5700 xt, but since they cost about the same and I believe preform similar I opted for the rtx because of ray tracing. Worth upgrading to a 2070 or no?

2070 is too close to 2060S, I'd say no. 5700XT is a tier faster (if that makes sense), but avoid the blowers no matter what.

 

23 minutes ago, Gapi said:

Mobo: Do I really need the max version of the b450 because it's ryzen 3000 ready or is the regular one ok? What advantages does the max version have?

The regular one needs BIOS flashing before it's compatible with 3rd gen, and you're down to the basic BIOS without fancy graphics due to BIOS chip capacity forcing MSI to give up good looking UI for more CPU microcodes to accomodate 3rd gen.

 

23 minutes ago, Gapi said:

PSU: This corsair txm gold or a corsair cxm 550w 80+ Bronze ? I honestly have no clue about power supplies so help would be appreciated.

TXM is better

[5x5]

1 minute ago, Gapi said:

How do you know that? According to benchmarks the 2060 super is better than 5700 XT ?

Look at HU. Your mistaking the 2070S with the 2060S. The 2060S is 5% behind the 5700 and 15% behind the XT

[Gapi]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

False. Games in my HP EX920 (PCIe 3.0 x4) dont load noticeably faster than in my Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (SATA 6Gbps) or Toshiba OEM 128GB SSD (PCIe 3.0 x2, on top of being significantly held back by its capacity). Effect should be even smaller when the 660p is faster than both 840 Pro and Toshiba.

Ok so I'll stick with the intel SSD for the much lower price. Should I buy it with a 1TB blue as listed (total 135$) or just get rid of the hard drive and go for a 2TB SSD for 50$ more?

[Gapi]

11 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Look at HU. Your mistaking the 2070S with the 2060S. The 2060S is 5% behind the 5700 and 15% behind the XT

So which one do you think is the best value?

[5x5]

Just now, Gapi said:

So which one do you think is the best value?

Best value would be a 5700 non XT. Best performance a 2070S

[Gapi]

4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Best value would be a 5700 non XT. Best performance a 2070S

2070S would be a big price leap. If it's between the 2060S and 5700XT, is the 5700xt that much better than the 2060s that it would be more worth it over ray tracing? I'm still confused since most benchmarks still show the 2060S outperforms the 5700XT. Thanks

[5x5]

Just now, Gapi said:

2070S would be a big price leap. If it's between the 2060S and 5700XT, is the 5700xt that much better than the 2060s that it would be more worth it over ray tracing? I'm still confused since most benchmarks still show the 2060S outperforms the 5700XT. Thanks

Raytracing on the 2060S is unusable. Too few RT cores. Unless you like a cinematic 20fps. The 5700XT is about 14-17% faster depending on the game. Not as fast as a 2070S but close

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Gapi said:

Ok so I'll stick with the intel SSD for the much lower price. Should I buy it with a 1TB blue as listed (total 135$) or just get rid of the hard drive and go for a 2TB SSD for 50$ more?

I myself would prefer the 2TB SSD, bigger game storage space and saves space in the case.

[Gapi]

8 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Raytracing on the 2060S is unusable. Too few RT cores. Unless you like a cinematic 20fps. The 5700XT is about 14-17% faster depending on the game. Not as fast as a 2070S but close

Ok so at the price point the 5700XT is better. If I wanted to upgrade would it be a rtx 2070 regular or is it still slower than a 5700XT?

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Gapi said:

Ok so at the price point the 5700XT is better. If I wanted to upgrade would it be a rtx 2070 regular or is it still slower than a 5700XT?

custom 5700XT or blower 5700XT?

[Gapi]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

custom 5700XT or blower 5700XT?

this one?

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, Gapi said:

Ok so at the price point the 5700XT is better. If I wanted to upgrade would it be a rtx 2070 regular or is it still slower than a 5700XT?

it would perform on par at best and trails it at worst.

[5x5]

9 minutes ago, Gapi said:

Ok so at the price point the 5700XT is better. If I wanted to upgrade would it be a rtx 2070 regular or is it still slower than a 5700XT?

Regular 2070 = 5700 non XT

[Gapi]

1 hour ago, Stormseeker9 said:

5700XT or 2060S if you need cuda cores / ray tracing 

the mobo comes with a larger bios chip which can run the full version bios. There is no NEED, but I’d opt for it anyway. Out of box compatible.

 

corsair TXm 550 

51 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

False. Games in my HP EX920 (PCIe 3.0 x4) dont load noticeably faster than in my Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (SATA 6Gbps) or Toshiba OEM 128GB SSD (PCIe 3.0 x2, on top of being significantly held back by its capacity). Effect should be even smaller when the 660p is faster than both 840 Pro and Toshiba.

 

2070 is too close to 2060S, I'd say no. 5700XT is a tier faster (if that makes sense), but avoid the blowers no matter what.

 

The regular one needs BIOS flashing before it's compatible with 3rd gen, and you're down to the basic BIOS without fancy graphics due to BIOS chip capacity forcing MSI to give up good looking UI for more CPU microcodes to accomodate 3rd gen.

 

TXM is better

29 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Raytracing on the 2060S is unusable. Too few RT cores. Unless you like a cinematic 20fps. The 5700XT is about 14-17% faster depending on the game. Not as fast as a 2070S but close

27 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I myself would prefer the 2TB SSD, bigger game storage space and saves space in the case.

 

Thanks for all the help! This is the new improved list with the feedback: 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$72.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$184.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	$424.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case	$114.98 @ NZXT
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$94.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1107.52
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1087.52
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-21 09:19 EDT-0400

 

 

[Stormseeker9]

Looks good to me 

[5x5]

1 hour ago, Gapi said:

 

Thanks for all the help! This is the new improved list with the feedback: 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$72.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$184.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card	$424.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case	$114.98 @ NZXT
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$94.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1107.52
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1087.52
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-21 09:19 EDT-0400

 

 

The MECH cooler is a bit mediocre - Sapphire Nitro/Pulse or PowerColor Red Devil/Asus Strix/XFX Thicc are vastly superior

[Gapi]

16 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The MECH cooler is a bit mediocre - Sapphire Nitro/Pulse or PowerColor Red Devil/Asus Strix/XFX Thicc are vastly superior

Ok so which one of those would you recommend the most?

[5x5]

Just now, Gapi said:

Ok so which one of those would you recommend the most?

Nitro+ is the best median between the Asus Strix (best board with godly power delivery) and best cooler (Red Devil - this thing can cool 2 cards at once)

[Gapi]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Nitro+ is the best median between the Asus Strix (best board with godly power delivery) and best cooler (Red Devil - this thing can cool 2 cards at once)

Nitro+ it is then. Thanks so much for all the help.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$72.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Intel 660p Series 2.048 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$184.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	$467.38 @ SuperBiiz
Case	NZXT H500i ATX Mid Tower Case	$114.98 @ NZXT
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$94.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1149.91
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1129.91
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-21 11:22 EDT-0400