x570 4 Pin CPU connector required? Help

[bert22]

Can I buy a 50$ PSU with no additional 4 Pin for the CPU or do I need to invest more to provide the cable (8 Pin + 4 Pin) and be save that everything works? 

 

some say its only for extreme overcloking

some say its required --> doesn't work without

 

What is right? What PSU can you recommend for Ryzen 5 3600+5700XT+16GB RAM?

[Lurick]

8 pin is required

4 pin is supplemental and only needed for extreme overclocking

[bert22]

So if I overclock my CPU it won't damage the PCB?

[Master Disaster]

8 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Can I buy a 50$ PSU with no additional 4 Pin for the CPU or do I need to invest more to provide the cable (8 Pin + 4 Pin) and be save that everything works? 

 

some say its only for extreme overcloking

some say its required --> doesn't work without

 

What is right? What PSU can you recommend for Ryzen 5 3600+5700XT+16GB RAM?

For the love of God don't buy a $50 PSU for that build. Think of it this way, the PSU is quite literally directly connected to almost every component in your PC and if it fails it has the potential to dump the input voltage (220v, 240v or 120v depending on where you live) directly into the output rails (12v, 5v, -5v and -12v). As you can imagine dumping 120v into a 12v component is bad, very bad.

 

Buy a rated PSU, at least then you can be sure it has protection from killing other components with itself if it dies.

 

Never skimp out on the PSU.

[bert22]

1 minute ago, Master Disaster said:

For the love of God don't buy a $50 PSU for that build. Think of it this way, the PSU is quite literally directly connected to almost every component in your PC and if it fails it has the potential to dump the input voltage (220v, 240v or 120v depending on where you live) directly into the output rails (12v, 5v, -5v and -12v). As you can imagine dumping 120v into a 12v component is bad, very bad.

 

Buy a rated PSU, at least then you can be sure it has protection from killing other components with itself.

Thanks! I will keep that mind and bye a better one. You have a similar setup as what I plan to do. Is your CPU with both ( 8 Pin and 4 Pin) connected? Or only with 8 Pin?

[Lurick]

5 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

So if I overclock my CPU it won't damage the PCB?

You'll kill the CPU long before you damage the PCB of the motherboard and either of those scenarios are very unlikely unless you're doing something like 1.5v or something stupid high like that and disable all protections on the motherboard to shutdown and protect itself.

[bert22]

Just now, Lurick said:

You'll kill the CPU long before you damage the PCB of the motherboard and either of those scenarios are very unlikely unless you're doing something like 1.5v or something stupid high like that and disable all protections on the motherboard to shutdown and protect itself.

Ok! So I will be fine without 4 Pin? I will do overclocking very gently.

[Lurick]

3 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Ok! So I will be fine without 4 Pin? I will do overclocking very gently.

Yes, just to put you at ease, I was able to overclock a 7900X on just the 8-pin alone to 4.6GHz from 3.3GHz stock at 1.23v and that's a much more power hungry chip than the 3600 or 3700X

 

Edit:

I did push to 4.7GHz at 1.3v but the CPU got way to hot but had no risk of damage for the motherboard

[Master Disaster]

3 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Thanks! I will keep that mind and bye a better one. You have a similar setup as what I plan to do. Is your CPU with both ( 8 Pin and 4 Pin) connected? Or only with 8 Pin?

My board doesn't even have the additional 4 pin (molex) connection and ftr I can OC to 4.25Ghz on all cores with no issues.

[Valkyrie Lenneth]

the 4pin is for ln2 overclocking ,  however if u rly want to put that in there are molex to 4pin converters , just make sure u dont get the pci-e converters but the mobo/eps ones

 

but then again why in the heck would u cheap out on a psu with a build like Ryzen 5 3600+5700XT

 

get a proper friggen psu

[Stormseeker9]

21 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Can I buy a 50$ PSU with no additional 4 Pin for the CPU or do I need to invest more to provide the cable (8 Pin + 4 Pin) and be save that everything works? 

 

some say its only for extreme overcloking

some say its required --> doesn't work without

 

What is right? What PSU can you recommend for Ryzen 5 3600+5700XT+16GB RAM?

Corsair TXM if want to save or corsair RMx if you want to go high quality 

[boey]

10 minutes ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Thanks! I will keep that mind and bye a better one. You have a similar setup as what I plan to do. Is your CPU with both ( 8 Pin and 4 Pin) connected? Or only with 8 Pin?

Refer to PSU Tier List to see the quality of each PSU. If it's not on the list then it's probably very bad and you should avoid it. 

[bert22]

5 minutes ago, Valkyrie Lenneth said:

the 4pin is for ln2 overclocking ,  however if u rly want to put that in there are molex to 4pin converters , just make sure u dont get the pci-e converters but the mobo/eps ones

 

but then again why in the heck would u cheap out on a psu with a build like Ryzen 5 3600+5700XT

 

get a proper friggen psu

Very good advise! Thank you very much

[bert22]

6 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

Corsair TXM if want to save or corsair RMx if you want to go high quality 

Very helpful thanks! I will watch some videos about them.

[bert22]

7 minutes ago, _d0nut said:

Refer to PSU Tier List to see the quality of each PSU. If it's not on the list then it's probably very bad and you should avoid it. 

Awesome tip thanks!

[bert22]

15 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Yes, just to put you at ease, I was able to overclock a 7900X on just the 8-pin alone to 4.6GHz from 3.3GHz stock at 1.23v and that's a much more power hungry chip than the 3600 or 3700X

 

Edit:

I did push to 4.7GHz at 1.3v but the CPU got way to hot but had no risk of damage for the motherboard

Ok! That is very much! Thanks again for that comparison...helped alot

[Stormseeker9]

12 hours ago, Jakob22122003 said:

Very helpful thanks! I will watch some videos about them.

Not a real need to watch a video about them. Both are good quality units, except Rmx being better quality than the txm