GTX 1080 TI FE Bottlenecking i5-7600k

[BionicBarry]

First post so I apologies for any taboos. Couldn’t find anything related to this but I may be horrible at searching. My system:

i5-7600k

asrock b250m pro4 (I know I can’t OC with this mobo, got it for free at micro center)

Nvidia GTX 1080 TI FE (I know it’s overkill, got it from a friend)

2x8gb crucial ballistix 2400mhz DDR4

256gb nvme pcie ssd (I forget the brand I’ll edit later)

2tb wd blue 7200rpm hdd

750w evga 80plus bronze (forget the exact model I’ll edit)

monitor is an acer 1080p 144hz something

 

after downloading gears 5 I ran a bench and compared with a buddy which made me realize my gpu is potentially underperforming.

 

Benchmark states gpu is bottlenecking the cpu. I’ll attach the screenshots. Tried at ultra and at high settings just for the heck of it. Cpu and you both staying under 68c. Afterburner is set to 120% power limit and 90c thermal limit.

 

From the benchmark my CPU is pumping out frames like crazy and my gpu is falling far behind.

 

I would have never expected this with a 1080ti especially at 1080p. 

 

Im going to double check the gpu utilization after I run it a few more times in HWmonitor and afterburner. Is there anything I’m missing right off of the bat?

 

i know my build is a little Frankenstein I’m a grad student and a young dad so I’ve had to work with what I could and have budget with high end stuff (gpu is very out of place). 

[5x5]

I mean, this is standard stuff - 4/4 i5s haven't been enough for 2, almost 3 years now. Look into a used i7 7700K and overclock it or jump ship to Ryzen 3000 if you want to alleviate the bottleneck - but it's certainly there and going to be present in multiple games. The best card to pair with a 4/4 i5 is a 1070/1660 Ti - anything over that is going to get bottlenecked in modern games at 1080p

[BionicBarry]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I mean, this is standard stuff - 4/4 i5s haven't been enough for 2, almost 3 years now. Look into a used i7 7700K and overclock it or jump ship to Ryzen 3000 if you want to alleviate the bottleneck - but it's certainly there and going to be present in multiple games. The best card to pair with a 4/4 i5 is a 1070/1660 Ti - anything over that is going to get bottlenecked in modern games at 1080p

Why would the cpu be putting out more frames than the gpu if that were the case? The gpu is bottlenecking.

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, BionicBarry said:

Why would the cpu be putting out more frames than the gpu if that were the case? The gpu is bottlenecking.

Other way around - the GPU is handling all the requests for frames the CPU can output and then going into an idle state - the CPU, meanwhile, is pegged at 100% load and never enters an idle state.

 

EDIT: Upon re-reading - in this game it appears it's working mostly fine with the GPU being the limit (as it should be) for the most part - it's still an off pairing, though, the i5 will limit you in most games.

[NumLock21]

Your gaming performance seems to be really good, stop worrying about bottlenecks because there will always be a bottleneck no matter what you're going to upgrade. Just enjoy the game and stop look at the tiny FPS counter that's on the corner of your screen.

[BionicBarry]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Other way around - the GPU is handling all the requests for frames the CPU can output and then going into an idle state - the CPU, meanwhile, is pegged at 100% load and never enters an idle state.

So there’s an issue with gears benchmark software? Itstates the cpu is putting out 150-200fps and the gpu is putting out 80fps. Also during benchmarking the cpu has lower frame times than the gpu. Hence why it says the bottleneck is 98% gpu. I appreciate your help just wanna make sure I’m understanding this right.

[BionicBarry]

4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Your gaming performance seems to be really good, stop worrying about bottlenecks because there will always be a bottleneck no matter what you're going to upgrade. Just enjoy the game and stop look at the tiny FPS counter that's on the corner of your screen.

I was just trying to find the best settings for 120+ FPS for multiplayer as I do with most games. When gears was telling me my gpu is bottlenecking my cpu and putting out 1/3 of the frames I then started to look for a bottleneck.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, BionicBarry said:

I was just trying to find the best settings for 120+ FPS for multiplayer as I do with most games. When gears was telling me my gpu is bottlenecking my cpu and putting out 1/3 of the frames I then started to look for a bottleneck.

It matters every engine is different.  Some are demanding some ore not.  Some rely on powerful 9900k while others care more about your GPU.  I mean at the end once you have a nice CPU,  your bottleneck will always be the video card.  But a cheap CPU and good graphics will bottleneck cuz of the CPU and not dish out all the frames you want to see.

[NumLock21]

1 minute ago, BionicBarry said:

I was just trying to find the best settings for 120+ FPS for multiplayer as I do with most games. When gears was telling me my gpu is bottlenecking my cpu and putting out 1/3 of the frames I then started to look for a bottleneck.

Enjoy the game, no need to look for bottlenecks, because it's not even that big of a deal.

[BionicBarry]

5 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

It matters every engine is different.  Some are demanding some ore not.  Some rely on powerful 9900k while others care more about your GPU.  I mean at the end once you have a nice CPU,  your bottleneck will always be the video card.  But a cheap CPU and good graphics will bottleneck cuz of the CPU and not dish out all the frames you want to see.

Yeah I definitely agree and understand that, my question was why would my cpu be putting out more frames than the gpu if the cpu is supposed to be the bottleneck.

[ivan134]

24 minutes ago, BionicBarry said:

Yeah I definitely agree and understand that, my question was why would my cpu be putting out more frames than the gpu if the cpu is supposed to be the bottleneck.

You're reading way too much into that. The bottleneck here is your CPU.

[BionicBarry]

36 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Other way around - the GPU is handling all the requests for frames the CPU can output and then going into an idle state - the CPU, meanwhile, is pegged at 100% load and never enters an idle state.

 

EDIT: Upon re-reading - in this game it appears it's working mostly fine with the GPU being the limit (as it should be) for the most part - it's still an off pairing, though, the i5 will limit you in most games.

GPU is pinned at 100% while cpu is at 89-90%

[BionicBarry]

1 minute ago, ivan134 said:

You're reading way too much into that. The bottleneck here is your CPU.

Gpu is pinned at 100% utilization, cpu is at 90% max over 10 runs now. 

[Mick Naughty]

Cpu is the problem. Almost always. 

[BionicBarry]

Update to whoever has any insight. To clear the 4c/4t issue here that everyone couldn’t look past, I replaced the cpu and mobo with a ryzen 5 2600 (6c/12t) and asrock b250m pro 4. I know the cpu and mobo are very basic but I still have the same scenario. Benchmark tests show that I am gpu bound not cpu bound. Kind of strange considering the 1080ti should not be the bottleneck here. 

[Mick Naughty]

So you bought new stuff and don’t want it to be better? Gpu bound is the way it’s supposed to be.