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Hello all

 

Looking for opinions on a new build. Been a while since I've done one.

 

Budget: $2000

Location: US

Use: Gaming in 1440p, possibly 4k if the system can handle it. Not going to be streaming.

Monitors: 1 for now, maybe a 2nd one in the future.

Peripherals: I can live with my current mouse and keyboard. Will need a 1440p monitor though.

Upgrading reason: Want to play some of the current titles at high frames and great resolution. Also upgrading in preparation for Cyberpunk 2077.

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor $349.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM 97 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $149.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $179.89 @ OutletPC
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $69.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $117.41 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $44.86 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Video Card $439.98 @ OutletPC
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $104.89 @ OutletPC
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit $139.89 @ OutletPC
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1786.88
  Mail-in rebates -$100.00
  Total $1686.88
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 02:38 EDT-0400  

 

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Build something like this instead...

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($195.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital RE 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.73 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer XZ271U bmijpphzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Walmart) 
Total: $2021.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 02:52 EDT-0400

 

Or, 

 

2080Ti

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.00 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card  ($1052.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: AOC AG241QX 23.8" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($229.99 @ Walmart) 
Total: $2008.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 02:57 EDT-0400

 

Windows can be had for a few bucks from sites like kinguin, scdkeys and eBay.

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.00 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($79.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($75.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.88 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: Acer VG271U Pbmiipx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1981.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 03:21 EDT-0400

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Here's what I'd do for your gaming rig. You'll be hard pressed to find better performance:

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $359.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $139.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $169.99 @ Amazon
Memory OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $66.99 @ Newegg
Storage Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $94.99 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card $699.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair SPEC-DELTA RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $89.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $75.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor AOC AG241QX 23.8" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor $229.99 @ Walmart
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $2046.70
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $2026.70
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 03:27 EDT-0400  

 

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22 minutes ago, jerubedo said:

You'll be hard pressed to find better performance

 

57 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Build something like this instead..

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.00 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($129.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($195.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($66.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital RE 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.73 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: Acer XZ271U bmijpphzx 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($269.99 @ Walmart) 
Total: $2021.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 02:52 EDT-0400

 

Or, 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($329.00 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team T-Force Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($65.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($94.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card  ($1052.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Monitor: AOC AG241QX 23.8" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($229.99 @ Walmart) 
Total: $2008.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-08-19 02:57 EDT-0400

 

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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5 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

 

 

For gaming the 9700K with the 2080 super will be the slightly better performer on the whole vs your first build. As for your second build with the 2080 Ti, yes it's the better build, but it also doesn't take into account the cost of Windows which the OP did specify needing, putting it just out of budget at $2,107.00, hence I gave an alternative :)

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3 hours ago, jerubedo said:

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Hey jerubedo,

 

I have been thinking a lot about Intel as for right now, as I built a second machine recently I thought a lot about the i7 9700K and i9 9900K facing the current Zen 2 and trying to find somewhere balanced and monetarily wise enough to those who want to go team blue but retaining value.

 

I came to the conclusion that neither the i7 9700K nor i9 9900K represents this value I was seeking but actually the locked i9 9900.

 

Here is the situation, we all know the i5 9600K is no longer viable because it has been maxing out on the CPU demanding titles and the imminent launch of new consoles generations by the end of 2020 turning gaming 8 cores optimized the i5 has no life in it and in this case the R5 3600 is a better pick every time.

 

But what about the i7 9700K? we seen it has been nearly maxing out as well, take games like AC Odyssey which is fairly representative of future AAA are showing it:

 

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While the i7 9700K manages to drive the 2080 Ti today that 94% utilization average in there is worrisome, throw some multi-tasking on the mix or the upcoming games being able to further utilize 8 cores soon and by next year the 2080 Ti will be a 3080 and we'll have a new top end GPU around which is likely to actually be bottlenecked by the 9700K.

 

All of this shows the better purchase today for longevity is a 8c/16t making the R7 3700X a better choice.

 

But we don't want AMD, we want Intel and that last bit of higher gaming performance thanks to Ring Bus, what to do while still making a value purchase? That's where the locked i9 9900 comes in:

 

The CPU itself is cheaper, usually more than 50 dollars cheaper, the processor will work on any Z chipset motherboard so you can cheap up on it getting the most inexpensive Z370/Z390 you can find and still BCLK the chip,  cooling? I can tell you a beQuiet! Shadow Rock Slim sufficed for me so no need for 100 dollars Plus AiO's.

 

The idea you MUST overclock is really dead nowadays even then I was able through BCLK to get the i9 9900 clocked at a locked 4.75ghz all cores which is enough and then we get more Cache and the Hyper-Threading for that far bigger breath of life... I mean on the example above the 9900K shows exactly 50% usage instead of 94%, that means a whole lot more room for multi-tasking and "future-proofing" for tomorrow's 8 cores optimized games.

 

So the situation here is that for the same price if not cheaper you may be getting a better performance per dollar and counter AMD more effectively as legit alternative route to Zen 2.

 

What do you think? wanna give it a more in depth look and reconsider Intel recommendations?

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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5 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

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I went to intel as I'm worried about amd. I've heard that they can get pretty hot and also had some issues with high frequency memory? Any of this still the case, or have they been resolved ?

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8 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

The idea you MUST overclock is really dead nowadays

This sums it up, basically, it is not necessary beyond that for a Sunday project...

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