Need advice for new CPU

[Drachenmaetzler]

I want to pruchase a new CPU (incl. Mobo, RAM , etc) at the end of this year.

 

My question is, since I'm primarily gaming on this pc. What should I get AMD Ryzen or Intel ?

I was looking at the 3700x and the I7 8700k.

 

I'll be getting 16 GB of DDR4. I'd need suggestions for this aswell.

I was looking at this:

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-Patriot-Viper-Steel-DDR4-4000-DIMM-CL19-Dual-Kit_1309477.html

 

Will my PSU be sufficient?

 

[Zando_]

DDR4 3600Mhz with the lowest CL timings you can get is the sweet spot for Zen 2, and I'd defo go with the 3700X. Considering the 3600/3600X match the 8700K, slapping 2c/4t more on top of that makes it even better. 

 

What PSU are you running, and what's your budget for a mobo? 

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Drachenmaetzler said:

 

3200mhz RAM is fine unless there's some 3600mhz RAM with low timings for sale.

Just buy Ryzen 3000 with one of the mid range ASUS or Gigabyte Boards.

[Drachenmaetzler]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

DDR4 3600Mhz with the lowest CL timings you can get is the sweet spot for Zen 2.

Yeah I was going to get the CL down on the RAM I was showing.

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What PSU are you running, and what's your budget for a mobo?

530W Gold?

 

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Considering the 3600/3600X match the 8700K

What about Single Core , AFAIK Ryzen's still behind considering I could easily get 5GHz on the Intel CPU.

[Zando_]

Just now, Drachenmaetzler said:

Yeah I was going to get the CL down on the RAM I was showing.

530W Gold?

 

What about Single Core , AFAIK Ryzen's still behind considering I could easily get 5GHz on the Intel CPU.

A 6c/12t chip matching/beating another 6c/12t chip means the single core perf is the same. You can get the 8700K to 5Ghz yeah, but that extra 300Mhz won't make much of a performance difference, it's already boosting to 4.7 stock, and the Zen 2 chips do slightly lower than that at stock and still match it on the single core IIRC. Unless you really love manually overclocking (for Ryzens it's still better to tweak the boost and not force a manual all-core OC), the Zen 2 chips are the better choice for most use cases. 

What 530W Gold? That's just a wattage and efficiency rating, what model is the PSU? There's crappy PSUs and solid ones with the same wattage and efficiency ratings, need to know the model to see if it's a decent one or not.  

[Drachenmaetzler]

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

What 530W Gold? That's just a wattage and efficiency rating, what model is the PSU? There's crappy PSUs and solid ones with the same wattage and efficiency ratings, need to know the model to see if it's a decent one or not.  

Corsair CX500 M ? idk can't look into the case.

[Drachenmaetzler]

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and what's your budget for a mobo? 

About 150-200€

 

offtopic: how do I change my signature :'D

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Drachenmaetzler said:

About 150-200€

That may be enough for an X570 mobo depending on the pricing there (the $200 USD lower end boards use the same VRMs and have most of the features of the more expensive ones, so there's no real need to spend more), otherwise an MSI B450 Tomahawk or Gaming Pro Carbon is the best choice IIRC. X470 doesn't do much other than give you SLI support, X570 gives you PCIe 4 if you wanna get the new even speedier NVMe SSDs later on. 

 

3 minutes ago, Drachenmaetzler said:

offtopic: how do I change my signature :'D

 

 

It's in a weird spot, IIRC it's how the forum software is built, not LTT's choice. 

[Drachenmaetzler]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

 

THX.

 

Yeah probably gonna go for X570 just to be on the safe side.

M.2 will be a thing to consider aswell.

Thanks for the help so far!

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, Drachenmaetzler said:

THX.

 

Yeah probably gonna go for X570 just to be on the safe side.

M.2 will be a thing to consider aswell.

Thanks for the help so far!

Look up Buildzoid's video on the GamersNexus channel, he does ones for each chipset and has one up for X570, explains why the $200 boards function the same as the ones that cost twice as much. And if you don't need to save money, I'd defo go for a solid X570 board, they're not 100% needed but it's nice to know you've got all the features of your CPU available. 

[Drachenmaetzler]

2 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Look up Buildzoid's video on the GamersNexus channel, he does ones for each chipset and has one up for X570, explains why the $200 boards function the same as the ones that cost twice as much. And if you don't need to save money, I'd defo go for a solid X570 board, they're not 100% needed but it's nice to know you've got all the features of your CPU available. 

Alright,

Updated my Signature to my current Specs btw.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Drachenmaetzler said:

Alright,

Updated my Signature to my current Specs btw.

Nice! If your PSU is a grey label CXM or CX you'll be fine, if it's a green label one I'd replace it.

[Drachenmaetzler]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

if it's a green label one I'd replace it.

Oh well. Guess I'm changing that too.

[Zando_]

Just now, Drachenmaetzler said:

Oh well. Guess I'm changing that too.

F. Should be worth it though, if the PSU goes out it can take the rest of the system with it, and that costs a lot more to replace than getting a new PSU in the first place. You can just get a new grey label CX or CXM, the RM/RMx/i/TXM/etc series from Corsair are solid as well, so are the G2s from EVGA (and the P2 and T2 but those bois get really expensive). That's about where my knowledge of good PSUs stops, though I do know the Seasonic Focus Gold PSUs are to be avoided, they have issues with hungry GPUs like the vega cards spiking in wattage, would be fine with a 1080 though. 

[Drachenmaetzler]

13 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

F. Should be worth it though, if the PSU goes out it can take the rest of the system with it, and that costs a lot more to replace than getting a new PSU in the first place. You can just get a new grey label CX or CXM, the RM/RMx/i/TXM/etc series from Corsair are solid as well, so are the G2s from EVGA (and the P2 and T2 but those bois get really expensive). That's about where my knowledge of good PSUs stops, though I do know the Seasonic Focus Gold PSUs are to be avoided, they have issues with hungry GPUs like the vega cards spiking in wattage, would be fine with a 1080 though. 

Ok thanks for the help.