My first build plan

[whatUwant]

Hi everyone. I'm planning my first build.

 

My current PC (Core i7-4790K + GeForce GTX 970) is 4 years old and it struggles a little bit when the population in game (Cities: Skylines) grows past a certain point. Also The acceleration of 2x and 4x is essentially the same as 1x. I'm in need of a more powerful setup.

 

The budget is €2500. Most likely I'll buy from European Amazon sites, since the offers from my local Finnish retailers are usually overpriced.

 

I'll keep using my old monitor (1440p) and peripherals. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€489.00 @ Caseking) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  (€69.89 @ Aquatuning) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (€209.90 @ ARLT) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€166.92 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€74.98 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming OC Video Card  (€1249.00 @ Alternate) 
Case: NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€79.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €2439.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-22 15:33 CEST+0200

 

(I picked a 250GB SSD on purpose. Storage capacity isn't going to be an issue.)

 

Thanks for comments and suggestions.

Edited July 22, 2019 by whatUwant

[SenioRR]

What will you use it for? Just gaming?

[whatUwant]

Yes just gaming.

[SenioRR]

As you will be using it for gaming only and the i9 9900k is the best option you have, I would stick with this build personally.

Your CPU alternative is Ryzen 9 3900x which is ever so slightly behind on gaming performance but obviously has the core count advantage so if you plan on any productivity workloads in the future, I would consider getting the 3900x.

That is really the only point worth mentioning here as every other part of the list is fine.

[whatUwant]

Thanks.

Ryzen 3900 was under consideration but the game doesn't seem to be able to utilize all the threads (or so I've heard). 

 

My main concern was motherboard & cooler. I don't know if they work well with other components, or if I can get better deal by choosing cheaper alternatives.

[Caennanu]

Since i play skylines quite often, and don't experience the issues you are facing i'm wondering how much ram you have in your current machine?

Sure the cpu is a bit older, but its not absolete and should be able to run skylines with quite a few mods.

 

I am running a ryzen 1700 with 32gb of memory and a GTX 1080 and have no issues with skylines.

 

on topic.

I think if you're playing skylines and games like that, than the 2080TI might be a bit overkill.

Getting a 2080 (super) alone could save you 4 - 500 euro. Which you could spend elsewhere.

[Guest]

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Alternate
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	€34.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard	€182.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€145.71 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	€87.89 @ Alternate
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1199.00 @ Caseking
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€83.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€118.84 @ Mindfactory
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2202.31
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-22 16:32 CEST+0200

[whatUwant]

20 minutes ago, Caennanu said:

Since i play skylines quite often

Glad to hear from a C:S player! Thanks for the suggestion.

 

20 minutes ago, Caennanu said:

how much ram you have in your current machine?

Currently the RAM capacity is 16GB. 

20 minutes ago, Caennanu said:

 Sure the cpu is a bit older, but its not absolete and should be able to run skylines with quite a few mods.

IIRC CPU was quite busy during game. Task manager indicated usage close to 100%. 

20 minutes ago, Caennanu said:

I am running a ryzen 1700 with 32gb of memory and a GTX 1080 and have no issues with skylines.

What's your population?

20 minutes ago, Caennanu said:

I think if you're playing skylines and games like that, than the 2080TI might be a bit overkill. 

Getting a 2080 (super) alone could save you 4 - 500 euro.

I thought about going for 2080 super too. Its VRAM capacity is only 8GB. Will it be a problem?

[Stormseeker9]

8 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Alternate
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	€34.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard	€182.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€145.71 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	€87.89 @ Alternate
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1199.00 @ Caseking
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€83.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€118.84 @ Mindfactory
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2202.31
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-22 16:32 CEST+0200

I like this!

[Boinbo]

OP, I would stay with your current build but get a 2080 super instead. It's much cheaper, and 8gb of Vram really won't be an issue. Also get a gigabyte aorus pro mother board, those are really good motherboards compared to others. And though the h500 is a great case, it is known to have mediocre airflow, so please keep that in mind.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Boinbo said:

OP, I would stay with your current build but get a 2080 super instead. It's much cheaper, and 8gb of Vram really won't be an issue. Also get a gigabyte aorus pro mother board, those are really good motherboards compared to others. And though the h500 is a great case, it is known to have mediocre airflow, so please keep that in mind.

Why when you can get far better value for money with Ryzen ?

[Boinbo]

Just now, lee32uk said:

Why when you can get far better value for money with Ryzen ?

I do agree with you, but my reasoning was that the OP said his build was mainly for gaming. Ofc ryzen has better value, but it's up to him whether.he wants to do that. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Boinbo said:

I do agree with you, but my reasoning was that the OP said his build was mainly for gaming. Ofc ryzen has better value, but it's up to him whether.he wants to do that. 

The only advantage with Intel is at 1080p high refresh rate gaming. At 1440p/4K there is less of a gap (Virtually none at 4K). As he mentioned playing Cities Skylines then you don't need 144fps for that game anyway. Hopefully the op has more than a 1080p screen if considering a 2080 Super or 2080 ti.

[whatUwant]

58 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Alternate
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	€34.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard	€182.89 @ Mindfactory
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€145.71 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	€87.89 @ Alternate
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1199.00 @ Caseking
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€83.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	Corsair - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€118.84 @ Mindfactory
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2202.31
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-22 16:32 CEST+0200

Hmm I never really considered AMD. But their reviews are quite positive. It looks promising. Thanks for the suggestion.

30 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

Hopefully the op has more than a 1080p screen if considering a 2080 Super or 2080 ti.

I have a 1440p display.

 

40 minutes ago, Boinbo said:

OP, I would stay with your current build but get a 2080 super instead. It's much cheaper, and 8gb of Vram really won't be an issue. Also get a gigabyte aorus pro mother board, those are really good motherboards compared to others. And though the h500 is a great case, it is known to have mediocre airflow, so please keep that in mind.

I didn't know about the airflow issue. Thanks for pointing that out!

[whatUwant]

 

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	€499.00 @ POWER
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	€38.00 @ Tietokonekauppa
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard	€199.90 @ Komponenttikauppa
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€145.71 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	€78.60 @ Mikroaitta
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1249.00 @ Gigantti
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€89.61 @ CompuSat
Power Supply	Corsair - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€118.84 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Total (w/o shipping)	€2418.66

It turns out some retailers don't ship to Finland, so I need to buy from both local and international retailers.

If I replace 3700 with 3900, this is the total price without shipping.

If I stick with 3700, I'll just remove €150 from CPU.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, whatUwant said:

 

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	€499.00 @ POWER
CPU Cooler	ARCTIC - Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler	€38.00 @ Tietokonekauppa
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard	€199.90 @ Komponenttikauppa
Memory	Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€145.71 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	ADATA - XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	€78.60 @ Mikroaitta
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING OC Video Card	€1249.00 @ Gigantti
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	€89.61 @ CompuSat
Power Supply	Corsair - 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€118.84 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Total (w/o shipping)	€2418.66

It turns out some retailers don't ship to Finland, so I need to buy from both local and international retailers.

If I replace 3700 with 3900, this is the total price without shipping.

If I stick with 3700, I'll just remove €150 from CPU.

Stick with the 8 core if you are just gaming.

[Caennanu]

16 hours ago, whatUwant said:

What's your population?

Obviously this varies per game, but top game i have about 1,8mil pop.

Vram shouldn't be an issue, Vram only gets to be an issue at higher resolutions, and then i'm talking about 4k. 2080 super should be just fine at 1440. (or beta / early acces games with little optimization).

 

As stated above, Ryzen is a good alternative. Yes it is still a little less powerfull in terms of gaming compared to intell according to multiple benchmarks, but the price premium in my eyes is not worth going intel. This is however more of a personal choice currently. It is however more likely for AMD to continue the AM4 socket than it is for intel to continue their current socket over to their next generation chips.(likely, not guaranteed).

 

If going for a ryzen and only using the system for gaming, i would opt for a X470 board and not a X570. Once again in terms of pricing, the X470's generally offer more features at lower cost than the X570, and the benefits of having a X570 aren't needed for gaming. If you would do rendering and other workloads that require high throughput on disk drives it would be a logical choice.

 

I would suggest the following setup, in this i've chosen a 3700x because the 3800x doesn't offer much more for the price addition. the 3900x is a bit overkill on cores as most games won't utilize this (for now) and disabling 4 cores to benefit from the added cache it offers will be an enthusiast thing.

I have chosen 2 kits of 2x8 simply because i couldn't find a 32 kit. And these should be B-Die chips.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Alternate
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	€59.90 @ ARLT
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	€169.90 @ ARLT
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€126.94 @ Mindfactory
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€126.94 @ Mindfactory
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	€686.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	€135.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€93.80 @ Alza
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1749.46
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 08:48 CEST+0200

 

[VEXICUS]

14 hours ago, whatUwant said:

....

Go with this, you wouldn't regret...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€349.00 @ Alternate) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€231.42 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (€97.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€105.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€419.00 @ ARLT) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€79.99 @ Corsair DE) 
Total: €1368.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 09:58 CEST+0200

[whatUwant]

1 hour ago, Caennanu said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Alternate
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	€59.90 @ ARLT
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	€169.90 @ ARLT
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€126.94 @ Mindfactory
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€126.94 @ Mindfactory
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	€686.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	€135.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€93.80 @ Alza
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1749.46
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 08:48 CEST+0200

 

 

Thanks.

I did the calculation again with prices from local retailers:

 

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Gigantti
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	€69.00 @ Mikromafia
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	€218.00 @ Tietokonekauppa
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€125.74 @ Proshop
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€125.74 @ Proshop
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	€686.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	€135.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€111.95 @ CDON
	Total (w/o shipping)	€1822.41

[-------------]

Either of those builds will last you for 5+ years, providing you take care of the system.  The only upgrade I'd suggest is, to opt for a platinum rated power supply (and maybe increase the W to 700+, because you can).

 

Then, take care of your system:

- Monitor and sustain decent thermal performance, which is especially important if you overclock your CPU

- Re-apply thermal paste on a reoccurring basis

- Clean the case of dust and grime

- Remind yourself of how fortunate you are

 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Caennanu said:

Obviously this varies per game, but top game i have about 1,8mil pop.

Vram shouldn't be an issue, Vram only gets to be an issue at higher resolutions, and then i'm talking about 4k. 2080 super should be just fine at 1440. (or beta / early acces games with little optimization).

 

As stated above, Ryzen is a good alternative. Yes it is still a little less powerfull in terms of gaming compared to intell according to multiple benchmarks, but the price premium in my eyes is not worth going intel. This is however more of a personal choice currently. It is however more likely for AMD to continue the AM4 socket than it is for intel to continue their current socket over to their next generation chips.(likely, not guaranteed).

 

If going for a ryzen and only using the system for gaming, i would opt for a X470 board and not a X570. Once again in terms of pricing, the X470's generally offer more features at lower cost than the X570, and the benefits of having a X570 aren't needed for gaming. If you would do rendering and other workloads that require high throughput on disk drives it would be a logical choice.

 

I would suggest the following setup, in this i've chosen a 3700x because the 3800x doesn't offer much more for the price addition. the 3900x is a bit overkill on cores as most games won't utilize this (for now) and disabling 4 cores to benefit from the added cache it offers will be an enthusiast thing.

I have chosen 2 kits of 2x8 simply because i couldn't find a 32 kit. And these should be B-Die chips.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Alternate
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	€59.90 @ ARLT
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	€169.90 @ ARLT
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€126.94 @ Mindfactory
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€126.94 @ Mindfactory
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	€686.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	€135.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€93.80 @ Alza
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1749.46
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 08:48 CEST+0200

 

I don't see the point of going with an X470 board if you are paying that much for one, when an entry level X570 isn't much more. Also that board would need a bios update to run that cpu. It makes more sense to go B450 if you are wanting a cheaper option than X570, and even then it isn't a smooth process even with bios flashback on something like a Tomahawk board. 

 

You don't need to buy expensive B die ram when you can get E die for a lot less, like the Crucial kit in my spec.

 

That psu has protection issues.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, whatUwant said:

 

Thanks.

I did the calculation again with prices from local retailers:

 

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	€349.00 @ Gigantti
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	€69.00 @ Mikromafia
Motherboard	Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	€218.00 @ Tietokonekauppa
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€125.74 @ Proshop
Memory	G.Skill Flare X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€125.74 @ Proshop
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB WINDFORCE Video Card	€686.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	€135.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€111.95 @ CDON
	Total (w/o shipping)	€1822.41

See my post above.

[whatUwant]

Not sure if it's a mistake, but my local retailers have Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard priced at €218 and Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard at €199. Seems like a no-brainer here.

[VEXICUS]

8 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

See my post above.

 

3 hours ago, VEXICUS said:

Go with this, you wouldn't regret...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€349.00 @ Alternate) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€231.42 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (€97.89 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (€105.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Video Card  (€419.00 @ ARLT) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€84.90 @ Caseking) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€79.99 @ Corsair DE) 
Total: €1368.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 09:58 CEST+0200

How about this one??

[Caennanu]

19 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

I don't see the point of going with an X470 board if you are paying that much for one, when an entry level X570 isn't much more. Also that board would need a bios update to run that cpu. It makes more sense to go B450 if you are wanting a cheaper option than X570, and even then it isn't a smooth process even with bios flashback on something like a Tomahawk board. 

 

You don't need to buy expensive B die ram when you can get E die for a lot less, like the Crucial kit in my spec.

 

That psu has protection issues.

No build is perfect, thats why we suggest things. Chose B-die simply from a quality / compatibility standpoint. It is a first build afterall

-- edit --> and yes flashing the bios could be an issue considering its a first build. So yeah, an X5 series might be the better option in terms of ease of installation.

 

If that PSU has protection issues, i'm surprised as i picked it from the psu tier list under budget (tier B)

 

7 minutes ago, whatUwant said:

Not sure if it's a mistake, but my local retailers have Asus ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard priced at €218 and Gigabyte - X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard at €199. Seems like a no-brainer here.

That would seem as a nobrainer indeed. But when checking the following list, you will notice that the X570 board needs additional cooling or is borderline on the VRM's for overclocking a 3950x when it comes out, where the X470 wouldn't need that. So that entails the VRM's are stronger on the X470 than the X570.

In your case it wouldn't be an issue, with a 3700x, but it could limit your choices in the future if you want to grab a 2nd hand to lengthen your system's lifetime a bit

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview

 

-- edit

The price difference between local retailers and pc part picker is indeed quite big. i cannot account for that unfortunately.