Need some help with upgrading. Please/Thanks

[ljones32]

I'm looking to upgrade my gaming, streaming, maybe some editing(not much if any) and just general use. homework YouTube etc. Im good with my hands so i can put it together myself. i know a little about how it works but not enough to call myself good at it. i have an idea what i would want. That's only come from watching the vids. well to keep it short i looking to spend around $4,000 total. i already have 2 monitors. 1 4k and 1080. i have a 1080 ti. looking to add a good gaming monitor inside of the total. I have a 1080 ti not sure if i should upgrade that now or not. The games i play are Tom Clancy, Blizzard looking to get into more fps and rts. Thanks everyone.

[star_pilot475]

13 minutes ago, ljones32 said:

I'm looking to upgrade my gaming, streaming, maybe some editing(not much if any) and just general use. homework YouTube etc. Im good with my hands so i can put it together myself. i know a little about how it works but not enough to call myself good at it. i have an idea what i would want. That's only come from watching the vids. well to keep it short i looking to spend around $4,000 total. i already have 2 monitors. 1 4k and 1080. i have a 1080 ti. looking to add a good gaming monitor inside of the total. I have a 1080 ti not sure if i should upgrade that now or not. The games i play are Tom Clancy, Blizzard looking to get into more fps and rts. Thanks everyone.

Ok, I can help you out. 

What country?

[pstarlord]

Yeah, you've come to the right place.  

 

Don't be shy about sharing more details about what you want from your system either.  I will say one thing though, it doesn't sound like you are in need of any top end components, by the way you described your use.  You said, gaming, streaming "some editing" and general use.  A system to meet those requirements can be quite affordable honestly, much less than the $4000 budget, especially if you already own a 1080TI.  

 

But, hey I'm not here to tell you NOT to spend money. haha.  Help us out a bit, answer these questions.

 

Just in general, here's what you've got so far. 

 

GPU = 1080TI - Fantastic GPU.  BUT, you mentioned that you want Ray Tracing.  After that it depends on what resolution and frame rate you want to game at.

Monitor One - 4K Monitor - Unless the frame rates on this monitor is just terrible, you could still use it for games that don't require blazing fast FPS.

Monitor Two - 1080 Monitor - Could be perfect for more frame rate demanding games. 

 

So the questions are:

Do you want/need dual monitors?

What resolution do you want to game at?

 

Putting it together, honestly, not that hard.  Watch some videos, some older Linus videos cover almost everything you'll need to know.  Just don't force anything, and use the internet as a resource. 

[ljones32]

13 hours ago, star_pilot475 said:

Ok, I can help you out. 

What country?

USA

[ljones32]

11 hours ago, pstarlord said:

Yeah, you've come to the right place.  

 

Don't be shy about sharing more details about what you want from your system either.  I will say one thing though, it doesn't sound like you are in need of any top end components, by the way you described your use.  You said, gaming, streaming "some editing" and general use.  A system to meet those requirements can be quite affordable honestly, much less than the $4000 budget, especially if you already own a 1080TI.  

 

But, hey I'm not here to tell you NOT to spend money. haha.  Help us out a bit, answer these questions.

 

Just in general, here's what you've got so far. 

 

GPU = 1080TI - Fantastic GPU.  BUT, you mentioned that you want Ray Tracing.  After that it depends on what resolution and frame rate you want to game at.

Monitor One - 4K Monitor - Unless the frame rates on this monitor is just terrible, you could still use it for games that don't require blazing fast FPS.

Monitor Two - 1080 Monitor - Could be perfect for more frame rate demanding games. 

 

So the questions are:

Do you want/need dual monitors?

What resolution do you want to game at?

 

Putting it together, honestly, not that hard.  Watch some videos, some older Linus videos cover almost everything you'll need to know.  Just don't force anything, and use the internet as a resource. 

i don't need but it helps to game and would like to add another.

right now i'm i game at 4k but i would like to get more fps so im looking to game at around 1440. saying that the reason im looking for 1440 is cause i hear that's the place to be.

 

i have gskill 16g 3200, cpu  6700k msi x99, 500 evga power. 2 500g 850 evo, 1 2 tb hdd. 

the goal is to get a system that will keep up for the next 3-4 years with maybe a gpu upgrade

[pstarlord]

12 hours ago, ljones32 said:

i don't need but it helps to game and would like to add another.

right now i'm i game at 4k but i would like to get more fps so im looking to game at around 1440. saying that the reason im looking for 1440 is cause i hear that's the place to be.

 

i have gskill 16g 3200, cpu  6700k msi x99, 500 evga power. 2 500g 850 evo, 1 2 tb hdd. 

the goal is to get a system that will keep up for the next 3-4 years with maybe a gpu upgrade

That budget, you can get a system that will easily be solid for that lifespan.  Here's what I'd do, if I were in your shoes.

 

1- Sell your 1080TI, they are only going down in value.  They are still selling on ebay in the $500 price range, and as RTX becomes more and more relevant in games, I'm sure the resale of 1080TI cards will go down.  

 

2-Stick with a dual monitor setup, but replace the 1080 monitor, with a 1440p monitor.  Then you've got the best of both worlds.  Personally, I don't think 4k is necessary unless you're using pretty big monitors, like the 32" range and above.  But most people, have 24" to 27" monitors, and at that size, I certainly can't really tell much of a difference between 1440p and 4k.  And the little difference I can tell, isn't worth the price IMO, but since you've already got it...might as well keep it. 

 

3-Is aesthetics important to you?  Like RGB? or color scheme?  At the budget you're working in, you can be pretty creative with your rig.  Personally, I like RGB, and I like my builds to have some sort of scheme.  

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$499.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard	$359.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$196.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$169.99 @ B&H
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$169.99 @ B&H
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$1399.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design - Define S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	$170.90 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$168.87 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Asus - ROG SWIFT PG279QZ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$588.95 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$3884.56
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$3864.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 01:20 EDT-0400

 

I'd go with something like this, if I were on a $4000 budget.  Keep in mind, once you sell your 1080TI, you'll be well within you budget.  Obviously, there are a lot of things you could do to this in terms of substituting to your taste, like the cooling solution, case, power supply, what model of 2080TI you get.  That sort of thing, but this is a good starting point IMO. 

 

I chose the R9 3900x because, at least from the reviews I've seen, it's a fantastic all around CPU, plus it gives you the opportunity to build on an X570 motherboard, so you'll have PCIE Gen 4 capabilities.  There may not be a ton of Gen 4 options at the moment, but if the hardware exists and the capability exists, then you can be sure that products will exist for it soon enough.

 

I suggested the Aorus Master Motherboard from Gigabyte because...well, it's what Steve from Gamer's Nexus has been using, and they've had nothing but great things to say about it.  

 

For the memory, you could go for some faster speeds by doing some swapping around some parts, maybe only getting one of the 970 Evo SSD's to begin with, then you'd have a little more money for faster RAM.  Maybe only get 16 Gigs instead of 32, and get the fastest you can find.  I don't know the give and take enough with RAM to know what is a faster option and what will yield the best performance.  Maybe someone here does though. 

 

GPU, if you're going high end, you gotta go Nvidia.  And EVGA seems to be a brand that people always rave about in terms of the customer support and warranty work.  If you're dropping that much on a GPU, you better be getting support for it if anything goes bad. 

 

I just threw a case on the there as a place holder, get whatever case you like.  Find one that has the features and aesthetic you like. 

 

You could maybe get a higher wattage, lower rated power supply.  But I'm pretty sure that 850 watts should be more than enough.  Don't take this as being the only option, its just the wattage and rating I went off of.  Being 80+ Platinum Certified, you'll be sure that is' clean consistent power. Also, reference the PSU list here, make sure whatever PSU you end up is highly rated on it. 

 

Monitor, again, its a bit of personal preference.  This is an IPS panel, you may prefer VA panels.  Just mainly put it there for the budget place holder. 

 

Then, you can add on any extra fans, or whatever you want if you're into RGB.  My current rig has quite a bit of RGB components, but none of them are the craziest.  For instance, I went with NZXT RGB fans because they are just rings of light, instead of a glowing disk.  Same with the Kraken AIO, just a ring of light.  I guess, you could say the RGB "theme" for my build is rings. haha.  Anyway, have fun with it.  

[ljones32]

12 hours ago, ljones32 said:

that looks awesome. Thanks for taking the time to explain things. i have a couple question. 

1. for the gpu is it better to water cool it? If so do i just get another aio and run it to the card with block?

2. im a big fan of razer is this case ok? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JFQG3C/lian-li-pc-o11d-razer-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11d-razer

3. I was reading about the ram for 3900x and they were saying that going to fast could hurt. is that true? if so what speeds should i look at?

[ljones32]

On 7/10/2019 at 12:37 AM, pstarlord said:

That budget, you can get a system that will easily be solid for that lifespan.  Here's what I'd do, if I were in your shoes.

 

1- Sell your 1080TI, they are only going down in value.  They are still selling on ebay in the $500 price range, and as RTX becomes more and more relevant in games, I'm sure the resale of 1080TI cards will go down.  

 

2-Stick with a dual monitor setup, but replace the 1080 monitor, with a 1440p monitor.  Then you've got the best of both worlds.  Personally, I don't think 4k is necessary unless you're using pretty big monitors, like the 32" range and above.  But most people, have 24" to 27" monitors, and at that size, I certainly can't really tell much of a difference between 1440p and 4k.  And the little difference I can tell, isn't worth the price IMO, but since you've already got it...might as well keep it. 

 

3-Is aesthetics important to you?  Like RGB? or color scheme?  At the budget you're working in, you can be pretty creative with your rig.  Personally, I like RGB, and I like my builds to have some sort of scheme.  

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$499.00 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$139.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X570 AORUS MASTER ATX AM4 Motherboard	$359.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$196.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$169.99 @ B&H
Storage	Samsung - 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$169.99 @ B&H
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$1399.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design - Define S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	$170.90 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair - HX Platinum 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$168.87 @ OutletPC
Monitor	Asus - ROG SWIFT PG279QZ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$588.95 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$3884.56
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$3864.56
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-10 01:20 EDT-0400

 

I'd go with something like this, if I were on a $4000 budget.  Keep in mind, once you sell your 1080TI, you'll be well within you budget.  Obviously, there are a lot of things you could do to this in terms of substituting to your taste, like the cooling solution, case, power supply, what model of 2080TI you get.  That sort of thing, but this is a good starting point IMO. 

 

I chose the R9 3900x because, at least from the reviews I've seen, it's a fantastic all around CPU, plus it gives you the opportunity to build on an X570 motherboard, so you'll have PCIE Gen 4 capabilities.  There may not be a ton of Gen 4 options at the moment, but if the hardware exists and the capability exists, then you can be sure that products will exist for it soon enough.

 

I suggested the Aorus Master Motherboard from Gigabyte because...well, it's what Steve from Gamer's Nexus has been using, and they've had nothing but great things to say about it.  

 

For the memory, you could go for some faster speeds by doing some swapping around some parts, maybe only getting one of the 970 Evo SSD's to begin with, then you'd have a little more money for faster RAM.  Maybe only get 16 Gigs instead of 32, and get the fastest you can find.  I don't know the give and take enough with RAM to know what is a faster option and what will yield the best performance.  Maybe someone here does though. 

 

GPU, if you're going high end, you gotta go Nvidia.  And EVGA seems to be a brand that people always rave about in terms of the customer support and warranty work.  If you're dropping that much on a GPU, you better be getting support for it if anything goes bad. 

 

I just threw a case on the there as a place holder, get whatever case you like.  Find one that has the features and aesthetic you like. 

 

You could maybe get a higher wattage, lower rated power supply.  But I'm pretty sure that 850 watts should be more than enough.  Don't take this as being the only option, its just the wattage and rating I went off of.  Being 80+ Platinum Certified, you'll be sure that is' clean consistent power. Also, reference the PSU list here, make sure whatever PSU you end up is highly rated on it. 

 

Monitor, again, its a bit of personal preference.  This is an IPS panel, you may prefer VA panels.  Just mainly put it there for the budget place holder. 

 

Then, you can add on any extra fans, or whatever you want if you're into RGB.  My current rig has quite a bit of RGB components, but none of them are the craziest.  For instance, I went with NZXT RGB fans because they are just rings of light, instead of a glowing disk.  Same with the Kraken AIO, just a ring of light.  I guess, you could say the RGB "theme" for my build is rings. haha.  Anyway, have fun with it.  

im not sure if you seen what i asked