Linux Supported Intel 5300-U CPU?

[_Grid21]

I have a Dell Latitude E5450 with an Intel 5300-U CPU and an Intel HD Graphics 5500 GPU onboard. Now this laptop, even in 2019, is SUCH A SOLID laptop and I really love using it for video editing when I need to and the battery life can last about 6 to 8 hours. But there are times where the Intel Thermal Engine doesn't kick in all the time under Windows 10, basically the part of the power settings for windows for throating the CPU doesn't always work and I have to shut down windows and start the laptop again. What I'd like to do is dual boot this laptop with a nice Linux OS, like Manjaro or Debian Gnome, and using Linux for light stuff like youtube/Chrome, Discord, and Slack  but have support for my intel cpu/gpu, but also be able to boot into windows when I need to do something that is Windows based only, like Editing with Vegas Pro 16. 

 

Would Manjaro or Debian Gnome support my hardware? Or is there another Linux OS that supports it and also supports dual booting? I have a 500GB SSD and it'd be nice if the OS wasn't to big to take up a lot of storage too. 

Thanks in advance! 

[Nettly_]

Debian and Manjaro no matter the desktop environment should absolutely work. If they don't for whatever reason Ubuntu and Pop!_OS are also good.

[Sauron]

3 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

Would Manjaro or Debian Gnome support my hardware?

It doesn't depend on your CPU, that's perfectly supported. You may have some problems with wifi drivers and such but afaik the latitude series is pretty well supported.

[_Grid21]

6 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It doesn't depend on your CPU, that's perfectly supported. You may have some problems with wifi drivers and such but afaik the latitude series is pretty well supported.

 

7 minutes ago, SafyreLyons-5LT said:

Debian and Manjaro no matter the desktop environment should absolutely work. If they don't for whatever reason Ubuntu and Pop!_OS are also good.

How easy is it for say if I need to ask for help, I assume both OS communities are pretty helpful? 

[Sauron]

Just now, _Grid21 said:

How easy is it for say if I need to ask for help, I assume both OS communities are pretty helpful? 

Usually yes, in most cases driver problems can be solved with a google search.

[Nettly_]

1 minute ago, _Grid21 said:

 

How easy is it for say if I need to ask for help, I assume both OS communities are pretty helpful? 

Yes they are, the Ubuntu forums and even here have people who can help. Manjaro has its own forums and also people here can help!

[_Grid21]

1 minute ago, SafyreLyons-5LT said:

Yes they are, the Ubuntu forums and even here have people who can help. Manjaro has its own forums and also people here can help!

 

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

Usually yes, in most cases driver problems can be solved with a google search.

as far as features and say game support for light games like League of Legends or steam games, which one has better support? 

[Nettly_]

1 minute ago, _Grid21 said:

 

as far as features and say game support for light games like League of Legends or steam games, which one has better support? 

Depends on the game. I would have to say Ubuntu has the most people looking into it and trying to game there. Manjaro might have an easier time finding things that work

 

[Sauron]

Just now, _Grid21 said:

as far as features and say game support for light games like League of Legends or steam games, which one has better support? 

There is pretty much no difference in that sense. Linux distributions shouldn't be thought of as completely different operating systems like Windows and MacOS. Most things that work on one Linux distribution will work on another, the steps for setup might differ a bit but that's about it.

 

With that said, officially league of legends isn't supported on Linux. It usually works well enough with Wine but still - there's no guarantee it will work or that an update won't break compatibility with Wine. Steam on the other hand has a Linux client.

[_Grid21]

6 minutes ago, Sauron said:

There is pretty much no difference in that sense. Linux distributions shouldn't be thought of as completely different operating systems like Windows and MacOS. Most things that work on one Linux distribution will work on another, the steps for setup might differ a bit but that's about it.

 

With that said, officially league of legends isn't supported on Linux. It usually works well enough with Wine but still - there's no guarantee it will work or that an update won't break compatibility with Wine. Steam on the other hand has a Linux client.

 

7 minutes ago, SafyreLyons-5LT said:

Depends on the game. I would have to say Ubuntu has the most people looking into it and trying to game there. Manjaro might have an easier time finding things that work

 

Ok awesome! I have 2 more questions, 1. How much space do I need to each of them, and 2. I don't remember how to dual boot, I assume both OS' should detect I already have a Windows install already?

[Sauron]

1 minute ago, _Grid21 said:

 

Ok awesome! I have 2 more questions, 1. How much space do I need to each of them, and 2. I don't remember how to dual boot, I assume both OS' should detect I already have a Windows install already?

1. Not much but if you want to use them frequently I would recommend at least 120gb
2. Yes but you should resize the partition in Windows to avoid problems. Also Windows might overwrite the bootloader when it updates, which means you won't be able to access your Linux installation anymore. It happened to me a couple of times. It can be fixed but it's a pain in the butt. I would install Linux on a external ssd if I were you.

[_Grid21]

1 minute ago, Sauron said:

1. Not much but if you want to use them frequently I would recommend at least 120gb
2. Yes but you should resize the partition in Windows to avoid problems. Also Windows might overwrite the bootloader when it updates, which means you won't be able to access your Linux installation anymore. It happened to me a couple of times. It can be fixed but it's a pain in the butt. I would install Linux on a external ssd if I were you.

Really? That's pretty weird. Sadly, I don't have an external SSD, only internal. What should I do in this case?

[Nettly_]

duel boot the internal ssd, or buy a external one. I got a 2TB one for less than $50

[_Grid21]

1 hour ago, SafyreLyons-5LT said:

duel boot the internal ssd, or buy a external one. I got a 2TB one for less than $50

I'd rather just dual boot it honestly.

[Nettly_]

1 minute ago, _Grid21 said:

I'd rather just dual boot it honestly.

then do that

[Sauron]

9 hours ago, _Grid21 said:

Really? That's pretty weird. Sadly, I don't have an external SSD, only internal. What should I do in this case?

You can still try it, just be aware there can be issues.

[_Grid21]

8 hours ago, Sauron said:

You can still try it, just be aware there can be issues.

I assume as long as I make an image of my system, then I have something to restore back too?

[Sauron]

16 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

I assume as long as I make an image of my system, then I have something to restore back too?

If you make an image of the whole drive, yes - but then as soon as you update Windows again you'll run into the same issue. If you just make an image of the Linux system it won't help you because the bootloader was overwritten; your installation is still there, you just can't boot to it.

[_Grid21]

37 minutes ago, Sauron said:

If you make an image of the whole drive, yes - but then as soon as you update Windows again you'll run into the same issue. If you just make an image of the Linux system it won't help you because the bootloader was overwritten; your installation is still there, you just can't boot to it.

That's so weird because I have never had windows do that to me before. 

[Sauron]

32 minutes ago, _Grid21 said:

That's so weird because I have never had windows do that to me before. 

Have you ever dual booted Windows 10 with something else? To be clear, you'd still be able to access Windows - you just wouldn't be able to boot to Linux.

[Koeshi]

To further clarify on this topic, Windows overwrites the bootloader.  When this happens your Linux system is still there, but can no longer boot as the Windows bootloader does not support it.  In order to fix this you can boot a live Linux environment, chroot into the existing Linux install and reset the bootloader.  It sounds complicated but once you have done it once it becomes a breeze.

 

EDIT: Oh, and I originally clicked on this topic as I am typing from a Latitude with a 5300U in it running Manjaro

 

 

[_Grid21]

On 7/5/2019 at 8:48 AM, Koeshi said:

To further clarify on this topic, Windows overwrites the bootloader.  When this happens your Linux system is still there, but can no longer boot as the Windows bootloader does not support it.  In order to fix this you can boot a live Linux environment, chroot into the existing Linux install and reset the bootloader.  It sounds complicated but once you have done it once it becomes a breeze.

 

EDIT: Oh, and I originally clicked on this topic as I am typing from a Latitude with a 5300U in it running Manjaro

 

 

Ah ok, that makes more sense, but why does Windows overwrite it? I have a spare smaller SSD I may use instead and just swap them when I want to use something different for the day because the other thing I worry about is is Windows needing more space and with dual booting, I worry about running out of space just because of a windows update.

[Lukyp]

For such old hardware I don't think you will have problems at all 

[_Grid21]

5 hours ago, Chunchunmaru_ said:

For such old hardware I don't think you will have problems at all 

How much space should I allocate for Manjaro? 

[Koeshi]

On 7/7/2019 at 1:00 PM, _Grid21 said:

On 7/5/2019 at 1:48 PM, Koeshi said:

 

Ah ok, that makes more sense, but why does Windows overwrite it?

I don't think that MS has ever made an official statement, but it is most likely because they don't care to stop it from doing that.  As far as it can see, Windows bootloader is the only one you should be using and anything else is a mistake.

 

On 7/7/2019 at 11:06 PM, _Grid21 said:

How much space should I allocate for Manjaro? 

That really depends on what you are using it for.  If you just want to browse the web and chat, 20GB will be excessive, if you want to play games then you are going to need a lot more.