MSI B350 + Ryzen 3000

[Koxicain]

I Just noticed MSI actually put out a beta bios update for the B350 PC Mate motherboard to support upcoming Ryzen 3rd Gen.
I was wondering how well would this combination work since the Vram is very limited on the B350 board. 

My current settings with it is a Ryzen 2700x OC'd to 4.2 stable at 1.3825v. Previously had a Ryzen 1500x OC'd to 3.9ghz at 1.42v

 

Because my final Question would be to either go for a x570 Board or the 3900x first. Im thinking of buying one of the Highend boards

of X570 like the Aorus Xtreme or MSI MEG variant so they will prolly cost around the same as the CPU which is prolly around 500-600 Euros.

And i would have to Purchase them over 2 months instead. Since we have plenty of information (exept prices) on the boards what do you guys think

i should purchase first since my current board will have support for 3rd gen?

[Jurrunio]

I'm surprised your board even managed to run the 2700X at that kind of overclock just fine. The 12 core is out of all MSI 300 series boards though, get a new board first. MSI's 300 series AM4 boards are awful, the Xpower being the shame of Xpowers really tells a lot about the rest of the lineup.

[Koxicain]

44 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm surprised your board even managed to run the 2700X at that kind of overclock just fine. The 12 core is out of all MSI 300 series boards though, get a new board first. MSI's 300 series AM4 boards are awful, the Xpower being the shame of Xpowers really tells a lot about the rest of the lineup.

The board on full load is around 55c while CPU is at 60-65C at full load. 
Monitored with HwInfo no external sensors. But yeah when i read that ppl on b450-x470 have to go above 1.4 to get the same
clocks on 2700x it seems i got lucky with my CPU or my board. 

I just have a lot of issues deciding whether to go MSI or Gigabyte. I really like aesthetics so thats a must have.
I really dont like Gigabytes software utilities. They are really slow. RGB fusion for instance has the worst interface and takes ages to operate.
 

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

The board on full load is around 55c

then that's the chipset thermal sensor. Even boards like the Taichi run 70C+ on the VRM

 

4 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

I just have a lot of issues deciding whether to go MSI or Gigabyte. I really like aesthetics so thats a must have.

So far on X570, Asus going to keep on their "screw the doubler and phase count" tactic, Asrock recycling VRM design first seen in X370 (which is fine, 1st gen Ryzen can't use 1/4 of the X370 Taichi's capability for example, tho not so much on the cheap boards), MSI and Gigabyte going a war on "who has the most phases and current output". Both MSI and Gigabyte are viable

[Koxicain]

13 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then that's the chipset thermal sensor. Even boards like the Taichi run 70C+ on the VRM

 

So far on X570, Asus going to keep on their "screw the doubler and phase count" tactic, Asrock recycling VRM design first seen in X370 (which is fine, 1st gen Ryzen can't use 1/4 of the X370 Taichi's capability for example, tho not so much on the cheap boards), MSI and Gigabyte going a war on "who has the most phases and current output". Both MSI and Gigabyte are viable

Never been a fan of the Hero board. 
Tbh i think i will go for MSI Meg-Ace. MSI Software is decent and the Aesthetics of the board is nice. 
Contrary to Gigabyte, their software is horrible.

[Jurrunio]

33 minutes ago, Koxicain said:

Never been a fan of the Hero board. 
Tbh i think i will go for MSI Meg-Ace. MSI Software is decent and the Aesthetics of the board is nice. 
Contrary to Gigabyte, their software is horrible.

MSI also has more flamboyant design. Definitely not a bad board, 720A current ensure running the 16 core comfortably for the VRM.

[Koxicain]

On 6/4/2019 at 9:15 PM, Jurrunio said:

MSI also has more flamboyant design. Definitely not a bad board, 720A current ensure running the 16 core comfortably for the VRM.

16core is not coming out yet though. Its the 12 core first. Then again nothing is going above 500A OC'ed on a 24h config only if you go more xtreme OC.

So it will handle anything pretty well and the heatsink on it is pretty good aswell.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Koxicain said:

16core is not coming out yet though. Its the 12 core first. Then again nothing is going above 500A OC'ed on a 24h config only if you go more xtreme OC.

So it will handle anything pretty well and the heatsink on it is pretty good aswell.

On air you should only do about 200-250A, otherwise the size of AM4 wont be enough to cool regardless of how big your custom loop is. Nice to leave room for efficiency for the VRM though