first pc build advice

[cg66]

hi all I'm building my first gaming pc (i have upgraded previous pc's so i somewhat know what im doing) and id like some more experienced builders in any advice they can provide in both the building process and the parts.

 

like I said I have upgraded pc's before so I know the basics and I've watched ltt,jay,bitwit and pauls videos on building a pc from scratch so I have an idea on what I'm doing.

 

the pc needs to be able to comfortably game at a decent frame rate on medium or higher graphic settings, I will be overclocking so I'm going ryzen as I want to be able to overclock without paying a premium for an unlocked cpu, it also will let me spend more money in other areas

 

my budget is around 1000 British pounds but I can go over slightly if needed, this needs to include the pc, monitor, keyboard and mouse

 

I already have bought( rounded prices)

 

cpu- ryzen 5 2600 £130

cpu cooler- hyper 212 rgb edition £40

memory-corsair vengeance ddr4 3000 2x8gb £77

 

parts I'm looking at buying(again prices are rounded)

 

mobo- msi tomahawk b450 £90

storage- 3tb segate barracuda £80(will upgrade with an ssd in the future)

gpu- msi Radeon rx580 8gb £167

case-cooler master pro 5 £70 (chosen as I want a case with both a side glass pannel and a see through or glass front pannel, the case doesn't need rgb fans but preferably does)

psu- corsair cxm 550 w 80+bronze £70

wifi adapter- Asus pce ac55bt £35 (wifi required as too far from router for Ethernet)

monitor - aoc 21.5" 1920x1080 75hz £83

keyboard- redragon k552 £33

mouse- Logitech- g502 proteus spectrum £60

and a next hue+ for £58 as this just brings me barely above budget but is not required if a better part can be purchased

 

any replacement part idea are appreciated as well as any tips for building as well as overclocking

 

thanks in advance 

 

 

 

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, cg66 said:

hi all I'm building my first gaming pc (i have upgraded previous pc's so i somewhat know what im doing) and id like some more experienced builders in any advice they can provide in both the building process and the parts.

 

like I said I have upgraded pc's before so I know the basics and I've watched ltt,jay,bitwit and pauls videos on building a pc from scratch so I have an idea on what I'm doing.

 

the pc needs to be able to comfortably game at a decent frame rate on medium or higher graphic settings, I will be overclocking so I'm going ryzen as I want to be able to overclock without paying a premium for an unlocked cpu, it also will let me spend more money in other areas

 

my budget is around 1000 British pounds but I can go over slightly if needed, this needs to include the pc, monitor, keyboard and mouse

 

I already have bought( rounded prices)

 

cpu- ryzen 5 2600 £130

cpu cooler- hyper 212 rgb edition £40

memory-corsair vengeance ddr4 3000 2x8gb £77

 

parts I'm looking at buying(again prices are rounded)

 

mobo- msi tomahawk b450 £90

storage- 3tb segate barracuda £80(will upgrade with an ssd in the future)

gpu- msi Radeon rx580 8gb £167

case-cooler master pro 5 £70 (chosen as I want a case with both a side glass pannel and a see through or glass front pannel, the case doesn't need rgb fans but preferably does)

psu- corsair cxm 550 w 80+bronze £70

wifi adapter- Asus pce ac55bt £35 (wifi required as too far from router for Ethernet)

monitor - aoc 21.5" 1920x1080 75hz £83

keyboard- redragon k552 £33

mouse- Logitech- g502 proteus spectrum £60

and a next hue+ for £58 as this just brings me barely above budget but is not required if a better part can be purchased

 

any replacement part idea are appreciated as well as any tips for building as well as overclocking

 

thanks in advance 

 

 

 

If you include an SSD and drop the 212 cooler, actually looks really good.  People may quibble about brands for certain parts but overall it's great I think.

[Herman Mcpootis]

pick up an X370-pro instead after confirming that it supports zen+ CPUs, better VRMs.

[That_PC_Kid]

I forgot to plug in the 8-pin CPU connector and was wondering for hours why my PC wouldn't turn on. I also installed incompatible RAM and had a ton of BSoDs. So my advice to you is make sure you plug in both the 24-pin connector and 8-pin connector as well as have compatible RAM.

[That_PC_Kid]

3 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

If you include an SSD and drop the 212 cooler, actually looks really good.  People may quibble about brands for certain parts but overall it's great I think.

Gotta love when people reply with the entire OP.

[cg66]

2 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

If you include an SSD and drop the 212 cooler, actually looks really good.  People may quibble about brands for certain parts but overall it's great I think.

Personally I don't care about which brand I choose so long as it works, cheers for the idea as well ill definitely think through it, I want to overclock though so will the stock cooler be able to handle it

[Dedayog]

3 minutes ago, cg66 said:

Personally I don't care about which brand I choose so long as it works, cheers for the idea as well ill definitely think through it, I want to overclock though so will the stock cooler be able to handle it

The 2600 doesn't overclock all that well.  The stock cooler can handle it pretty well, and going beyond that really isn't worth it. 

 

I think you'd get MUCH more benefit out of an SSD.  Use that $40 from the CPU cooler to get a nice 500GB boot SSD at the very least.

[Dedayog]

29 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

pick up an X370-pro instead after confirming that it supports zen+ CPUs, better VRMs.

I'd still go B450 over X370 based on B450 is guaranteed and X370 has to be confirmed.

 

Nothing wrong with B450 VRMs for mild overclocking at all.

 

According to Science Studio asking AMD about X370, check out the 8:00 minute mark. The BIOS ROM chip is too small to hold the BIOS revisions in some cases...

 

 

[Fasauceome]

20 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

The 2600 doesn't overclock all that well.  The stock cooler can handle it pretty well, and going beyond that really isn't worth it. 

Honestly just leaving it to XFR instead of manually overclocking with stock is easier. Gets about the same frequencies

[Herman Mcpootis]

5 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

I'd still go B450 over X370 based on B450 is guaranteed and X370 has to be confirmed.

 

Nothing wrong with B450 VRMs for mild overclocking at all.

https://www.asus.com/News/EtaH71Hbjuio1arV asus has already confirmed support on the X370-pro and released the bios needed to support zen 2, plus the better VRM will help if he ends up getting a 12-core or so.

[Dedayog]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

https://www.asus.com/News/EtaH71Hbjuio1arV asus has already confirmed support on the X370-pro and released the bios needed to support zen 2, plus the better VRM will help if he ends up getting a 12-core or so.

That's good to hear they're already working around it.

 

But why not move up to X470 then just to be safe?

[Herman Mcpootis]

3 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

That's good to hear they're already working around it.

 

But why not move up to X470 then just to be safe?

because i'm only recommending the X370-pro since it was just under 80 pounds.

[mkU1tra762]

I would Highly recommend an SSD now  and upgrade the cosmetics like RGB fans later. No SSD in 2019 would not be a good experience. even a small 120GB SATA SSD for your boot drive would be worth it and I bet you can find one cheap. 

[cg66]

11 minutes ago, mkU1tra762 said:

I would Highly recommend an SSD now  and upgrade the cosmetics like RGB fans later. No SSD in 2019 would not be a good experience. even a small 120GB SATA SSD for your boot drive would be worth it and I bet you can find one cheap. 

Ok I'm looking at getting a 240gb Kingston SSD for about £25 and I can simply get the hue+ at a later date

[mkU1tra762]

24 minutes ago, cg66 said:

Ok I'm looking at getting a 240gb Kingston SSD for about £25 and I can simply get the hue+ at a later date

I think that would be a smart plan.