Ram compatibility

[hardlygone]

hello everyone ...

I'm planning on a new build and I really need you're help guys , the cpu is ryzen 7 2700x and the motherboard is Asus x470 crosshair VII Hero , and I'm looking for a compatible ram the I can overclock it safely.

I need RGB ram that is 16gb(2x4gb) or 32gb(4x8gb)  , but I don't know which speed I should chose 3000mhz or 3200mhz or even 3600mhz also there is something called latency and I really don't know any thing about ram .

the only thing I know is ram speed and latency really matter in ryzen build so I hope you guys help me with that .

[ch3w2oy]

Samsung B Die tends to be the best for overclocking.. Ryzen likes faster speed but timings are also something to keep in mind..

 

For Ryzen, I use B Die just to ensure I'm getting the most from my system.. I'm personally using 3600 c16 Trident Z RGB in my Crosshair VII and it works great as well as syncing nicely.. They also have 3200 c14 Trident Z RGB that can probably do 3600 c16 as well (not that you need to).. I would just get whichever one is cheaper.. 

 

B Die looks like 3200 c14, 3600 c16.. 

Non B die looks like 3000 c15, 3200 c16, 3600 c18, etc.. 

[Jurrunio]

do you just do simple overclocking (i.e. enable XMP/DOCP profile) or tune most things yourself? Because if it's the former case there's zero need to buy a flagship board or go after premium high rated sticks.

 

And also, wait for 3rd gen benchmarks if you can

[ch3w2oy]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

And also, wait for 3rd gen benchmarks if you can

I couldn't do that if you offered to buy me a 3rd gen CPU.. I'm buying one once I see a buy now button lol.. 

 

Do review samples go out like GPU samples do?

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

I couldn't do that if you offered to buy me a 3rd gen CPU

I'm not buying you one for sure

 

4 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

 

Do review samples go out like GPU samples do?

Yes, chip makers and board partners do send samples to reviewers and also custom boards.

[hardlygone]

52 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Samsung B Die tends to be the best for overclocking.. Ryzen likes faster speed but timings are also something to keep in mind..

 

For Ryzen, I use B Die just to ensure I'm getting the most from my system.. I'm personally using 3600 c16 Trident Z RGB in my Crosshair VII and it works great as well as syncing nicely.. They also have 3200 c14 Trident Z RGB that can probably do 3600 c16 as well (not that you need to).. I would just get whichever one is cheaper.. 

 

B Die looks like 3200 c14, 3600 c16.. 

Non B die looks like 3000 c15, 3200 c16, 3600 c18, etc.. 

cool , can I get a link for the one that you use ? 

also if there is another brand a link will be helpful .

[hardlygone]

28 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

do you just do simple overclocking (i.e. enable XMP/DOCP profile) or tune most things yourself? Because if it's the former case there's zero need to buy a flagship board or go after premium high rated sticks.

 

And also, wait for 3rd gen benchmarks if you can

yes only xmp , I heard it's good one for overclocking in general .

[ch3w2oy]

3 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

cool , can I get a link for the one that you use ? 

also if there is another brand a link will be helpful .

The ones I use:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RsgPxr/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gtzr

 

Similar:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gT38TW/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gtzr

 

 

Alternatives:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rzdxFT/team-t-force-night-hawk-legend-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf7d416g3200hc14adc01

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tzjJ7P/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmw16gx4m2c3200c14

 

 

[hardlygone]

7 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

The ones I use:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RsgPxr/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gtzr

 

Similar:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gT38TW/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-16gtzr

 

 

Alternatives:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rzdxFT/team-t-force-night-hawk-legend-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-tf7d416g3200hc14adc01

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tzjJ7P/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmw16gx4m2c3200c14

 

 

I really liked the one that you use , but if it's 32gb(4x8gb) or (16x2gb) it will be great .

kindly , can you find it for me please.  

[Jurrunio]

17 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

yes only xmp , I heard it's good one for overclocking in general .

the problem is price. If you have this much money to spend you might as well go with Intel parts and stick with cheaper 3000MHz CL16 memory. That's still the only way too really maintain high frame rates in most games.

[ch3w2oy]

5 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

I really liked the one that you use , but if it's 32gb(4x8gb) or (16x2gb) it will be great .

kindly , can you find it for me please.  

Gets 4x8..not sure if they have 16gb sticks with the same specs.. 

 

https://m.newegg.com/product/20-232-492?m_ver=1

[hardlygone]

24 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Gets 4x8..not sure if they have 16gb sticks with the same specs.. 

 

https://m.newegg.com/product/20-232-492?m_ver=1

thanks , I think I'll stick whith 16gb.

[hardlygone]

27 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the problem is price. If you have this much money to spend you might as well go with Intel parts and stick with cheaper 3000MHz CL16 memory. That's still the only way too really maintain high frame rates in most games.

 

intel more expensive and same performance in 4k,2k ...

the ram will cost only $190 and 3600mhz c16 so it's perfect .

[ch3w2oy]

9 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

thanks , I think I'll stick whith 16gb.

Yea 32gb is really expensive for B Die lol. You can always add more later.. 

[hardlygone]

9 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Yea 32gb is really expensive for B Die lol. You can always add more later.. 

I remembered someone told me that you can searche on model number of the ram in motherboard website to see if it compatible or not  :

so I copy the model number of the ram that you use but unfortunately I didn't find it , does it still work through xmp same as you did ? 

[ch3w2oy]

4 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

I remembered someone told me that you can searche on model number of the ram in motherboard website to see if it compatible or not  :

so I copy the model number of the ram that you use but unfortunately I didn't find it , does it still work through xmp same as you did ? 

Yupp, don't worry about it.. The QVL list is just what they have officially tested to ensure compatibility with their products.. You have nothing worry about if you get that kit.. 

[hardlygone]

10 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

Yupp, don't worry about it.. The QVL list is just what they have officially tested to ensure compatibility with their products.. You have nothing worry about if you get that kit.. 

are you sure ? I don't wanna face any problems regarding this ...

is the system stable with you since you overclock it ? 

did you use xmp profile or overclock it manually ? 

do I have to update bios so that I can use xmp therefore stable system or not ? 

thank you , I really appreciate you're help .

[ch3w2oy]

7 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

are you sure ? I don't wanna face any problems regarding this ...

is the system stable with you since you overclock it ? 

did you use xmp profile or overclock it manually ? 

do I have to update bios so that I can use xmp therefore stable system or not ? 

thank you , I really appreciate you're help .

If your BIOS isn't updated then yes you need to update it.. Some boards have problems running at high speeds such as 3600mhz, I use the Crosshair VII, which works with 3600mhz as long as everything is updated correctly.. 

 

Your RAM will work no matter what. The only thing that could possibly happen is you have to run at 3466mhz or something but you'll be fine. They will work 100%! 

[hardlygone]

13 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

If your BIOS isn't updated then yes you need to update it.. Some boards have problems running at high speeds such as 3600mhz, I use the Crosshair VII, which works with 3600mhz as long as everything is updated correctly.. 

 

Your RAM will work no matter what. The only thing that could possibly happen is you have to run at 3466mhz or something but you'll be fine. They will work 100%! 

great , but why I might have to run it at 3466mhz ? 

[ch3w2oy]

37 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

great , but why I might have to run it at 3466mhz ? 

I don't think you will.. But like when I first got my Crosshair VII, I didn't update the BIOS so my RAM wouldn't run at the stock XMP settings.. Once I updated, it was fixed, though..

[hardlygone]

1 hour ago, ch3w2oy said:

I don't think you will.. But like when I first got my Crosshair VII, I didn't update the BIOS so my RAM wouldn't run at the stock XMP settings.. Once I updated, it was fixed, though..

ok do you think that 3600mhz C16 same performance as 3200mhz C14 ?

[ch3w2oy]

5 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

ok do you think that 3600mhz C16 same performance as 3200mhz C14 ?

They are pretty close.. The 3600 C16 kit I have, I'm actually running at 3200 C14 at this exact moment.. I'm pretty sure they're the same exact kit.. Get whichever one is cheaper..

[hardlygone]

16 hours ago, ch3w2oy said:

They are pretty close.. The 3600 C16 kit I have, I'm actually running at 3200 C14 at this exact moment.. I'm pretty sure they're the same exact kit.. Get whichever one is cheaper..

If I'm gonna for c16 I can buy 32gb 
But if I'm gonna buy c14 it can only be 16gb 
so how much do you think the frame rate will be between them ? 
32gb is not bad to be honest , only $30-$20 will cost more than the c14 .

[ch3w2oy]

31 minutes ago, hardlygone said:

If I'm gonna for c16 I can buy 32gb 
But if I'm gonna buy c14 it can only be 16gb 
so how much do you think the frame rate will be between them ? 
32gb is not bad to be honest , only $30-$20 will cost more than the c14 .

Honestly have no clue what you're talking about at this point..You need link the exact kits you're talking about because its hard to know exactly what you mean..

 

32GB wont yield enough FPS to justify it's purchase.

 

For Ryzen:

3600c16 > 3200c14 > 3600c18 > 3200c16 > 3000c15

 

Those are in order from fastest/what I would purchase, to least fastest/what I wouldn't purchase. Take it how you want.. Both the 3600c16 and 3200c14 kits are similar enough to just get whichever one you want.. If you don't want B Die, then get the one of the last 3.. Simple..

[Rigg]

On 5/7/2019 at 6:12 PM, ch3w2oy said:

Samsung B Die tends to be the best for overclocking.. Ryzen likes faster speed but timings are also something to keep in mind..

 

For Ryzen, I use B Die just to ensure I'm getting the most from my system.. I'm personally using 3600 c16 Trident Z RGB in my Crosshair VII and it works great as well as syncing nicely.. They also have 3200 c14 Trident Z RGB that can probably do 3600 c16 as well (not that you need to).. I would just get whichever one is cheaper.. 

 

B Die looks like 3200 c14, 3600 c16.. 

Non B die looks like 3000 c15, 3200 c16, 3600 c18, etc.. 

Some kits might be cl 16 or cl 14 at those speeds and not be B-die. Timings should be 14-14-14-34 3200 / 16-16-16-36 3600/ One trident Z kit has these: 15-15-15-35 3600. There are other timing/speed combos that can only be B-Die but the 3200/3600 kits are usually the cheapest and overclock just as well as the higher speed kits.