Query regarding a PC build.

[Bradderz369]

Hey everyone, I was on another forum discussing a possible build for my new computer and I just wanted to check it with other experts and get their opinion.

 

Just to let you know, I'm not that great with technology so I apologise in advance if I'm a little slow or have trouble understanding some topics but I would like to learn :)

 

I'll provide a link to the build I was recommended but basically my ideal computer would be focused towards gaming. I would like to try recording and streaming in the future along with Adobe products such as Photoshop, After Effects and Illustrator but I won't be using these products often. I am currently using a TV that I believe goes up to 1080p but once I move to a new place, I'll be able to obtain a decent monitor so I would like to plan for that too.

 

Here is the build I was recommended: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rRVrKB

 

This will be my first time building a computer but I just want to make sure that whether this build will do the job, whether I need additional parts or if there is any better options at the moment. I would like to stay under £1500 if possible, I'm based in the UK and I have a standard keyboard and mouse already. Regarding the case, I personally don't mind what I have but I'm not too fussed in fancy lights or showing off. If there are good looking cases that are affordable and all the parts can fit in nicely, I'll happily take recommendations!

 

Thanks for taking the time to read this, I look forward to seeing everyone's response :D

[Suppersupport]

do not use oem! they are about the same price non transferable and have no tech support!

[Suppersupport]

here is a alternative 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

also you can usually get by without the soundcard

[Bradderz369]

8 minutes ago, will1432 said:

here is a alternative 

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

also you can usually get by without the soundcard

Hello and thank you for the quick reply. I tried clicking on the link you provided but it took me to my build that I linked unless it is bugged for me? Thanks for the information regarding the oem, is that the Operating System?

 

Also I was just wondering what the purpose was for installing a soundcard, I saw some builds without one and I was curious what would be the benefits to getting this soundcard would be.

[Suppersupport]

sometimes a sound card will improve sound quality it usually does not really matter. yes oem is the OS (operating system)

[Bradderz369]

2 hours ago, will1432 said:

sometimes a sound card will improve sound quality it usually does not really matter. yes oem is the OS (operating system)

Ah cool, also I tried looking at the alternative build but I'm still only seeing my build that I posted when I click on your link.

 

I'm not that great in knowing what parts are good or bad but I just want to make sure it can handle gaming and multitasking with little to no problems that's within my budget. I am trying to do research regarding the parts that may be recommended but I just can't understand a lot of it right now.

[Fasauceome]

Fairly solid build, especially the motherboard and PSU.

[BigRom]

Made some changes

A 5400RPM HDD is painfully slow, dropped 1TB of storage to up the speed to 7200RPM for the same money

Vega 64 gives you more VRAM and is way better than the 1660Ti (you can swap in the RTX2060 for slightly cheaper as well, though the Vega still beats it)

Case is personal preference, I just like the Phanteks more

Removed the Windows as you can get a key for much cheaper.

Really good choice on the PSU and motherboard from your end though.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£273.50 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£124.97 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£145.47 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£80.59 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card  (£360.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£50.37 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£79.21 @ Box Limited) 
Total: £1174.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 03:36 BST+0100

[jerubedo]

Your build is pretty solid. I've just made a few adjustments:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	£273.50 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard	£124.97 @ Box Limited
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£76.58 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Intel - 660p Series 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£102.94 @ Technextday
Storage	Toshiba - P300 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£63.99 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	£360.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Inwin - 101 Black ATX Mid Tower Case	£68.40 @ Ebuyer
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£83.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	£83.99 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1238.63
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 07:04 BST+0100

 

I bumped you down to 16GB of RAM because I really don't think your use case will warrant more than that, but if it ever does, you can always add a second 16GB kit to make 32GB. I bumped you up to a 1TB M.2 SSD, which will allow you to have a very good number of games running off the SSD, which is always a better experience. I bumped you up to a 3TB HDD 7200 RPM, which will be much better. You still have 4TB total storage.  I bumped you up to the Vega 64, which will perform a LOT better than the 1660 Ti.

[Bradderz369]

I'd like to say thank you to both BigRom and Jerubedo for taking the time to obtain a build and respond with reasoning to their changes. I'm trying to slowly gain an understanding of computers and their parts but I think I'm making progress haha.

 

I'm still debating on a certain case to get as I recently found out that cases are semi important, I thought they were literally an empty box that serves little to no purpose

 

I've also seen builds with CPU coolers, is that because certain CPU's can get quite hot under a heavy load? I was wondering if the CPU above needed a cooler.

 

Sorry in advance, I'm just trying to be thorough with this build as it will be my first time building this PC and I'm kind of excited honestly!

[trevb0t]

Is the build you listed at the top of your budget?

 

I find the board choice interesting. To me this says that you plan to do hefty overclocking, but then there is no CPU cooler included. 

While the AMD coolers are pretty nice, they aren't going to support a heavy OC.

If the budget can fit it, I'd grab a good cooler to keep that 2700X from overheating. I like the Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

If that is the plan, but it breaks the budget, a 2700 with OC is only going to lose a small amount to the 2700X and it's quite a bit cheaper right now. Overclocked, it's comparable and could provide the budget for the cooling solution.

 

That said, if the plan is to use the nice high clock speed without an OC, then I would drop down to a Tomahawk board. It still has the OC potential, but it's not just build entirely for it, and it's a nice savings. For a bigger savings, a Pro 4 would run just fine as well. 

[Bradderz369]

6 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

Is the build you listed at the top of your budget?

 

I find the board choice interesting. To me this says that you plan to do hefty overclocking, but then there is no CPU cooler included. 

While the AMD coolers are pretty nice, they aren't going to support a heavy OC.

If the budget can fit it, I'd grab a good cooler to keep that 2700X from overheating. I like the Dark Rock Pro 4.

 

If that is the plan, but it breaks the budget, a 2700 with OC is only going to lose a small amount to the 2700X and it's quite a bit cheaper right now. Overclocked, it's comparable and could provide the budget for the cooling solution.

 

That said, if the plan is to use the nice high clock speed without an OC, then I would drop down to a Tomahawk board. It still has the OC potential, but it's not just build entirely for it, and it's a nice savings. For a bigger savings, a Pro 4 would run just fine as well. 

Yeah that's correct, I should have included it to save people some time. I've personally never done overclocking before but I have always heard of the term. I assume overclocking allows it to run faster than it should but also produces more heat?

 

Thank you for the recommendations, I'll have to do some research and find the best suitable and affordable build. I'm always doubting myself thinking 'will it do enough', that is why I have postponed building a computer for so long haha.

 

I did have a question regarding the website: PcPartPicker. I have never bought computer parts before and I was just wondering if the links provided through this website were legitimate or if there are any red flags I should look for. I will definitely check for available within the UK but I wasn't sure if there were any other key points I should know about that.

[trevb0t]

2 minutes ago, Bradderz369 said:

Yeah that's correct, I should have included it to save people some time. I've personally never done overclocking before but I have always heard of the term. I assume overclocking allows it to run faster than it should but also produces more heat?

 

Thank you for the recommendations, I'll have to do some research and find the best suitable and affordable build. I'm always doubting myself thinking 'will it do enough', that is why I have postponed building a computer for so long haha.

 

I did have a question regarding the website: PcPartPicker. I have never bought computer parts before and I was just wondering if the links provided through this website were legitimate or if there are any red flags I should look for. I will definitely check for available within the UK but I wasn't sure if there were any other key points I should know about that.

I'm about to post some options you should check out

 

PCPartpicker does its best to only work with reputable retailers. The only variable is going to be rebates. They are never through the retailers, but the manufacturers. So they may or may not work out depending on a ton of circumstances. I wouldn't budget around getting anything back. Otherwise, go for it!

[SliceT]

7 hours ago, will1432 said:

sometimes a sound card will improve sound quality it usually does not really matter. yes oem is the OS (operating system)

Actually most of the times if you actually buy a decent one. You start hearing sounds and noises in games you didn't realize it was there... pretty crazy.

[BigRom]

18 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

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Well, OP could do this...

 

Dropped from 2700X to 2700, instant almost 80GBP savings right there

32GB to 16GB, another almost 70GBP savings

B450 Tomahawk instead of X470, another almost 50GBP saved

Shoved all that extra into the Radeon VII, that thing will trade blows with an RTX2080

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£199.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£80.67 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£80.59 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card  (£619.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£50.37 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1265.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 07:56 BST+0100

 

[trevb0t]

1 minute ago, BigRom said:

Well, OP could do this...

 

Dropped from 2700X to 2700, instant almost 80GBP savings right there

32GB to 16GB, another almost 70GBP savings

B450 Tomahawk instead of X470, another almost 50GBP saved

Shoved all that extra into the Radeon VII, that thing will trade blows with an RTX2080

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£199.98 @ Aria PC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Box Limited) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£80.67 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£59.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£80.59 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon VII 16 GB Video Card  (£619.99 @ Box Limited) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (£50.37 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£83.47 @ Scan.co.uk) 
Total: £1265.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 07:56 BST+0100

 

Solid! The VII is a big nasty card, and I love it. If we aren't going for a cooler, and OC, I'd almost just grab a 2600X, since it's doubtful we need all 16 threads, and the core clock is higher! 

[BigRom]

Just now, trevb0t said:

Solid! The VII is a big nasty card, and I love it. If we aren't going for a cooler, and OC, I'd almost just grab a 2600X, since it's doubtful we need all 16 threads, and the core clock is higher! 

My original build for him had the Radeon VII, but it was waaayy over budget so I cut it down to the Vega64. Also the reason I kept it at the 2700 was because OP said this, the extra cores & threads will be useful

 

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I would like to try recording and streaming in the future along with Adobe products such as Photoshop, After Effects and Illustrator but I won't be using these products often.

So yeah, he can easily get 2700X stock performance anyway by going into the BIOS, set the voltage to about 1.35V (this might not apply to every CPU, silicon lottery and all) and clock speed to 3.7GHz..

[BigRom]

35 minutes ago, Bradderz369 said:

I'd like to say thank you to both BigRom and Jerubedo for taking the time to obtain a build and respond with reasoning to their changes. I'm trying to slowly gain an understanding of computers and their parts but I think I'm making progress haha.

 

I'm still debating on a certain case to get as I recently found out that cases are semi important, I thought they were literally an empty box that serves little to no purpose

 

I've also seen builds with CPU coolers, is that because certain CPU's can get quite hot under a heavy load? I was wondering if the CPU above needed a cooler.

 

Sorry in advance, I'm just trying to be thorough with this build as it will be my first time building this PC and I'm kind of excited honestly!

The Phanteks P300 I picked because its a relatively cheap case that has good cable management routing, plenty of space to work on it and I like the look of it (this one is entirely subjective however )

 

AMD's stock cooler is actually pretty decent, certainly much better than Intel's. Yeah, you're not gonna get like crazy overclocks on the stock cooler, but its enough to get you up to a certain point. And Ryzen chips as far as I know don't run that hot. My OC-ed 2200G doesn't even hit 75C when running Cinebench benchmarks, and I'm running with the stock cooler and a case with questionable air flow.

 

You can still get a CPU cooler if you want, but if you can get away without one why not spend on the other hardware to get more bang for your buck

[Bradderz369]

5 minutes ago, BigRom said:

The Phanteks P300 I picked because its a relatively cheap case that has good cable management routing, plenty of space to work on it and I like the look of it (this one is entirely subjective however )

 

AMD's stock cooler is actually pretty decent, certainly much better than Intel's. Yeah, you're not gonna get like crazy overclocks on the stock cooler, but its enough to get you up to a certain point. And Ryzen chips as far as I know don't run that hot. My OC-ed 2200G doesn't even hit 75C when running Cinebench benchmarks, and I'm running with the stock cooler and a case with questionable air flow.

 

You can still get a CPU cooler if you want, but if you can get away without one why not spend on the other hardware to get more bang for your buck

Thanks again for the information you provided and in the previous posts too!

 

12 minutes ago, BigRom said:

My original build for him had the Radeon VII, but it was waaayy over budget so I cut it down to the Vega64. Also the reason I kept it at the 2700 was because OP said this, the extra cores & threads will be useful

I saw that you had an alternative build and I was just wondering if this was needed for the tasks I wanted to do or if I would be alright working with the previous build you recommended. I don't like spending additional money but if it's going to work and last a long while, then I believe that's money well spent. 

[trevb0t]

I'm gonna indulge myself a little here. I made the full build RGB, I hope you don't mind

(Edit: 56 pounds could be shaved throughout the build with no performance loss if we didn't front for RGB parts. If that's the case, I'd use this cooler, this mobo, this RAM, and this case. With those totals on the OC build, it's 1255 pounds WITH the monitor.)

 

Here is my "I want to overclock" build:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor	£199.98 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	£65.98 @ Novatech
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard	£91.08 @ CCL Computers
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£104.97 @ CCL Computers
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£49.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba - P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£46.99 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	£360.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox MB520 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	£64.98 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£83.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Monitor	Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	£243.46 @ Ebuyer
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1311.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 08:03 BST+0100

Once we overclock, the differences between the 2700 and the 2700X become smaller. This AIO cooler will sit that the top of your case, making it look like a very sexy RGB party box. The board supports the overclock with good VRMs and RGB LEDs as well. The RAM is RGB, and solid.

 

I opted for a 2.5" Crucial SSD since they are solid and cheaper than the M.2... No real reason to overspend there. If you want the 4TB drive still, do that. The one you have is 5400RPM which is about the slowest transfer rate possible. Just be aware. For me, 2TB is PLENTY of storage and both my wife and I work on the computer.

 

Substancial upgrade to the GPU with the Vega 64. It's comparable to a 2070. I'd say it's like 2 steps up the GPU ladder from the 1660Ti. It also puts you in a great spot to game at 1440p Ultra. So again I indulged and included a 1440p 144hz 4ms monitor. PRETTY NICE!

 

The case is just cool. It's got the top vent for your CPU cooler, comes with 3 sexy RGB fans in front and an exhaust. Airflow is good, cable management is fine... Can't ask much more than that at the price.

 

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Okay, here is the "I don't plan to overclock, I want to use the gear at stock settings," which I want to be clear is TOTALLY FINE. Don't feel pressure to push your gear if you aren't comfortable. I don't overclock, because my gear works great as is. I will start doing so once it's struggling to keep up with current titles more.

 

I went with a nice sleek black look for this one, again for fun, and to show that the parts aren't quite as pricey without the RGB  Without the AIO, the RGB case would look a little empty to me. You could still fill that top void with a couple more RGB fans. 

(Edit: Not much shaving to do here, except to offer the 2600X as an option, and a cheaper case which will work just fine. Even with the productivity tasks, the 2600X is only a few threads difference, and performs well. The 2700X is a beefier choice, and will ultimately be the better option, but much higher in cost. That's a choice that's up to you, since it's your budget! Total with the cheaper case: 1248 and total with the 2600X and the cheaper case: 1151. Both still including the monitor.)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor	£273.50 @ Aria PC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	£76.46 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	£76.58 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£49.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba - P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£46.99 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Sapphire - Radeon RX VEGA 64 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card	£360.79 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Case	Fractal Design - Meshify C TG ATX Mid Tower Case	£85.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	£83.47 @ Scan.co.uk
Monitor	Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor	£243.46 @ Ebuyer
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1296.70
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-05-06 08:14 BST+0100

This build is mostly the same, except that since we aren't overclocking, we want a higher core clock out of the CPU. The X series is nice for that, and frankly a 2600X would probably suit you fine too. I'll keep the 2700X.

 

No CPU cooler, since the stock cooler is plenty sufficient for non overclocked use. This board would get you started just fine if you wanted to play around with light OCing in the future. 

 

Again, solid RAM, nothing of note except that in both builds I used 16GB instead of 32. 32 is more for heavy workload PCs, and really wouldn't bring a whole lot to the table for the extra cost.

 

Same GPU. To reiterate: a nice upgrade to the one in your build. Since it's in the budget, I wouldn't step down.

 

I think this case is particularly cool among the black options. It's got a nice look and great airflow/cable mgmt. It does only provide 2 fans, so you may want to front a few bucks for another intake if you notice things heating up under a heavy load. I think it should be fine.

 

Again I included that nice monitor, since really we aren't too far from the original budget, and it's nice!

 

Sorry for the novel, but it's food for thought with all the reasoning behind it! If I had your budget and was in the market, one of the above is what I would do!

[BigRom]

1 minute ago, Bradderz369 said:

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I would recommend the 2nd build with the Radeon VII, as its really a tier above its Vega siblings. Its an RTX2080 fighter for about RTX2070 money

It also has roots as a workstation card, so any of those Adobe software you could throw at it will unlikely give it any trouble.

[trevb0t]

2 minutes ago, Bradderz369 said:

I saw that you had an alternative build and I was just wondering if this was needed for the tasks I wanted to do or if I would be alright working with the previous build you recommended. I don't like spending additional money but if it's going to work and last a long while, then I believe that's money well spent. 

For your purposes anything proposed above would work just fine. 

We are all guys who like to make theoretical builds, and like to try to max performance to your budget. 

It's going to be a case by case basis on which build is best for you, but a better CPU and better GPU with a decent PSU and MOBO is always going to work out.

The VII is a competitor to the RTX 2080, and really would be optimal at 1440p Ultra or 4k gaming. If you don't plan to go above the budget on a monitor, you'll choke the thing.

The Vega 64's in our builds above won't technically choke on a high refresh rate 1080p monitor, but it's more suited to 1440p ultra. That's why I opted that way and tried to include a monitor that would utilize it well in the build. 

[trevb0t]

1 minute ago, BigRom said:

I would recommend the 2nd build with the Radeon VII, as its really a tier above its Vega siblings. Its an RTX2080 fighter for about RTX2070 money

It also has roots as a workstation card, so any of those Adobe software you could throw at it will unlikely give it any trouble.

I do agree (as in my comment above.) BUT I only agree as I stated if you're planning on fronting money relatively soon for a 1440p 144hz or a 4K monitor as not to choke that thing to the point of it just becoming needless spending and power.

[Bradderz369]

5 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

This AIO cooler will sit that the top of your case, making it look like a very sexy RGB party box.

I'm sorry but this right here is perfection, I just found this so funny :). Regarding your builds, I appreciate that you included both options for overclocking and keeping it at their stock setting and trying to keep it unbiased as possible.

 

As awesome as that monitor is, there is literally nowhere to put it right now, I will have to wait until I move out so that I can make a new desk or buy one that is more suitable. The desk I have right now is far too small and I would go blind staring it as my desk is too close and well... Pretty awful  I will be obtaining a monitor like that (Probably the one you recommended) this year, so I just want to plan for that!

 

10 minutes ago, BigRom said:

I would recommend the 2nd build with the Radeon VII, as its really a tier above its Vega siblings. Its an RTX2080 fighter for about RTX2070 money

It also has roots as a workstation card, so any of those Adobe software you could throw at it will unlikely give it any trouble.

16 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

For your purposes anything proposed above would work just fine. 

We are all guys who like to make theoretical builds, and like to try to max performance to your budget. 

It's going to be a case by case basis on which build is best for you, but a better CPU and better GPU with a decent PSU and MOBO is always going to work out.

The VII is a competitor to the RTX 2080, and really would be optimal at 1440p Ultra or 4k gaming. If you don't plan to go above the budget on a monitor, you'll choke the thing.

The Vega 64's in our builds above won't technically choke on a high refresh rate 1080p monitor, but it's more suited to 1440p ultra. That's why I opted that way and tried to include a monitor that would utilize it well in the build. 

7 minutes ago, trevb0t said:

I do agree (as in my comment above.) BUT I only agree as I stated if you're planning on fronting money relatively soon for a 1440p 144hz or a 4K monitor as not to choke that thing to the point of it just becoming needless spending and power.

Thank you both for your insight. It's honestly so hard making the decision, sorry to be a nuisance haha. I think the only reason I'm having issues deciding is because I can't grasp which parts are better or which would tailor towards my needs and I'm sure if I sat on the computer for a while doing research, I would then be able to decide. I know we are all thinking it with myself included, I'm a real pain to deal with

 

I just want to make sure this lasts a long time and does the job haha.

[trevb0t]

1 minute ago, Bradderz369 said:

I'm sorry but this right here is perfection, I just found this so funny :). Regarding your builds, I appreciate that you included both options for overclocking and keeping it at their stock setting and trying to keep it unbiased as possible.

 

As awesome as that monitor is, there is literally nowhere to put it right now, I will have to wait until I move out so that I can make a new desk or buy one that is more suitable. The desk I have right now is far too small and I would go blind staring it as my desk is too close and well... Pretty awful  I will be obtaining a monitor like that (Probably the one you recommended) this year, so I just want to plan for that!

 

Thank you both for your insight. It's honestly so hard making the decision, sorry to be a nuisance haha. I think the only reason I'm having issues deciding is because I can't grasp which parts are better or which would tailor towards my needs and I'm sure if I sat on the computer for a while doing research, I would then be able to decide. I know we are all thinking it with myself included, I'm a real pain to deal with

 

I just want to make sure this lasts a long time and does the job haha.

Well to your needs: 

 

Gaming: Intel performs a touch better at gaming than AMD does, but once streaming is thrown into the mix, AMD takes that advantage back. So you've got that need filled just by buying an AMD processor.

 

Productivity: Adobe suite products do also slightly favor intel chips, but not enough to make the price difference worth it. Especially since most other productivity software swings the other way. Again, need fulfilled.

 

GPU: If your desire is to game at 1080p with Ultra settings (a year from now new titles might need to bump down to high. So I wouldn't say no to Ultra now.) Then you'd want something like an RX 590 ~ 1660 > 1660Ti > Vega 56 > RTX 2060.

If you want to go up to a higher resolution monitor like the 1440p (which with your budget, you should do.) You will want:

Vega 64 > RTX 2070 > Radeon VII > RTX 2080 > 2080Ti. (The last 3 options being kind of a turning point into 4K gaming.)

 

Even if the monitor isn't purchased right now, there's nothing wrong with considering a build including one and just setting that extra little bit aside for when you're ready. That would give you a bit to save on top of that as well, and you could step up to a monitor with Freesync or something cool.